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		<title>By: AverageJoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>AverageJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Other Paul 01.28.10 at 5:20 am 
Most readers have never experienced a old, classic Friday payday with a paymaster having you sign for your wages and being paid in cash, on the spot.&quot;

I was playing along and almost agreed, until I took a second to think about it.  In the USMC we were typically paid cash and the sidearms were present.  Later I was payed cash in an envelope every week.

Now I collect physical metal.  Most of my friends collect FRNs in electronic accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Other Paul 01.28.10 at 5:20 am<br />
Most readers have never experienced a old, classic Friday payday with a paymaster having you sign for your wages and being paid in cash, on the spot.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was playing along and almost agreed, until I took a second to think about it.  In the USMC we were typically paid cash and the sidearms were present.  Later I was payed cash in an envelope every week.</p>
<p>Now I collect physical metal.  Most of my friends collect FRNs in electronic accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rich, 

Read the post. I&#039;m not going back 30 years. last 8 years. If you want to discuss how undervalued and suppressed the PM&#039;s are right now, that&#039;s a different topic. Gold and silver have NOT topped. Where do you get that? Harsh words? Marty O talks out of his a** so you blast me? Get real. You sound like Prechter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rich, </p>
<p>Read the post. I&#8217;m not going back 30 years. last 8 years. If you want to discuss how undervalued and suppressed the PM&#8217;s are right now, that&#8217;s a different topic. Gold and silver have NOT topped. Where do you get that? Harsh words? Marty O talks out of his a** so you blast me? Get real. You sound like Prechter.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely correct?
8 year Golden Bull Market?
Utter stupidity and ignorant attitude?
Head buried deep in the sand?
Why try to convince people with harsh words when facts speak for themselves?
Gold was $855 in January 1980, 255.80 in January 2000 and 1226.40 in December 2009. Silver was $49 in January 1980, 3.71 in 1992 and 21 in March 2008.  
Gold was a lengthy trade short and long, less profitable than bonds and stocks and silver, not a belief system. Silver topped ahead of gold both times...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely correct?<br />
8 year Golden Bull Market?<br />
Utter stupidity and ignorant attitude?<br />
Head buried deep in the sand?<br />
Why try to convince people with harsh words when facts speak for themselves?<br />
Gold was $855 in January 1980, 255.80 in January 2000 and 1226.40 in December 2009. Silver was $49 in January 1980, 3.71 in 1992 and 21 in March 2008.<br />
Gold was a lengthy trade short and long, less profitable than bonds and stocks and silver, not a belief system. Silver topped ahead of gold both times&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck is absolutely correct. Seeing comments like the one from Marty O always make me chuckle at the utter stupidity and ignorant attitude displayed towards gold.  This is AFTER an 8 year Golden Bull market taking place and yet so many people still have their head buried deep in the sand. You can&#039;t convince people that don&#039;t want to be convinced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck is absolutely correct. Seeing comments like the one from Marty O always make me chuckle at the utter stupidity and ignorant attitude displayed towards gold.  This is AFTER an 8 year Golden Bull market taking place and yet so many people still have their head buried deep in the sand. You can&#8217;t convince people that don&#8217;t want to be convinced.</p>
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		<title>By: gary leibowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary leibowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t undestand the rationale behind the assumption that Gold will shine in a world wide protracted deflation.  The dollars value certainly will not fall against countries that are just catching up to our debt mess.  China, while a clear winner, will still be hit hard by the global protraction.

There doesn&#039;t seem to be anyone that will escape this global problem.  Thats why I will stick to my long established view that deflation will hurt all holders of any commodities (with the exception of major supply issues).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t undestand the rationale behind the assumption that Gold will shine in a world wide protracted deflation.  The dollars value certainly will not fall against countries that are just catching up to our debt mess.  China, while a clear winner, will still be hit hard by the global protraction.</p>
<p>There doesn&#8217;t seem to be anyone that will escape this global problem.  Thats why I will stick to my long established view that deflation will hurt all holders of any commodities (with the exception of major supply issues).</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha All
AAPL was up 33 times from 6.46 in 2003.
It still pays to use trailing stops when people are most ebullient or downcast. 
Right now it&#039;s still hard to turn on the radio or  TV or radio without finding a bullish gold ad, even more now than with 1226.40 gold almost two months ago.
Would $350 gold and $4 silver shake most people out?
We still like the DRV trade above 11.37...
Regards*Rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha All<br />
AAPL was up 33 times from 6.46 in 2003.<br />
It still pays to use trailing stops when people are most ebullient or downcast.<br />
Right now it&#8217;s still hard to turn on the radio or  TV or radio without finding a bullish gold ad, even more now than with 1226.40 gold almost two months ago.<br />
Would $350 gold and $4 silver shake most people out?<br />
We still like the DRV trade above 11.37&#8230;<br />
Regards*Rich</p>
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		<title>By: cp</title>
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		<dc:creator>cp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other Paul,

Very nice post, which also brought up memories of working at my fathers drug store in the 60&#039;s and doing payroll out of yesterdays cash receipts/deposits.  The cash salary, after deductions, was then put into a little pay envelope, including the change and handed out to the employees on pay day.

I also enjoyed your wide angle assessment which included the image of &quot;soft bodyand softer hands&quot;.  Very poetic.  Americans, in particular, have difficulty in realizing how good most have it, because they most often compare themselves to each other, instead of the rest of the world.  It&#039;s an easy trap to fall into.  

It&#039;s inevitable that at some point, the pendulum swings back  to the mean and a preview of the depth of that swing can be glimpsed by viewing the bigger picture.  Getting lost in illusion about where we feel entitled to be, instead of seeing historical and current world wide conditions hinders our chances at preparing for the future.   The adjustment coming to most people in this country will be epic.

Thanks Rick, for providing a forum where insightful ideas like OP can be read.   cp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other Paul,</p>
<p>Very nice post, which also brought up memories of working at my fathers drug store in the 60&#8217;s and doing payroll out of yesterdays cash receipts/deposits.  The cash salary, after deductions, was then put into a little pay envelope, including the change and handed out to the employees on pay day.</p>
<p>I also enjoyed your wide angle assessment which included the image of &#8220;soft bodyand softer hands&#8221;.  Very poetic.  Americans, in particular, have difficulty in realizing how good most have it, because they most often compare themselves to each other, instead of the rest of the world.  It&#8217;s an easy trap to fall into.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s inevitable that at some point, the pendulum swings back  to the mean and a preview of the depth of that swing can be glimpsed by viewing the bigger picture.  Getting lost in illusion about where we feel entitled to be, instead of seeing historical and current world wide conditions hinders our chances at preparing for the future.   The adjustment coming to most people in this country will be epic.</p>
<p>Thanks Rick, for providing a forum where insightful ideas like OP can be read.   cp</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great commentary by Chuck. 
Lest we not forget the difference in investing and trading.
As a investor in PM&#039;s I hold the long view and if, just if Prechter, Roubini and other naysayers are right.  Then you can take part or all of your core and buy current 3k to 5k 
acre farmland for $100 an acre, or a 10mil condo in Manhattan for 100k  So how can you lose.  The naysayers in all probability do not own any of the real stuff.  They resent the ones who do; still hiding behind mommy&#039;s dress. 
On trading, different from investing; being on the right side of the trade either north or south will make you money. Looking at the daily GC charts from early 12-09 and see the daily swings a lot of money was made and is my view the volatility will only increase and  be with us for a long time so it&#039;s time to trade up and down.  Your trading account does not care if it growing by either long or short trades. 
Going up in 11-09 Rick gave several warnings of GC getting toppy. I got out around 1217. Where are his warnings currently? I&#039;m listening. 
Rick is great with this HP method of his; just follow it and try, try to leave the emotion out.  When leaving my bias out it works for me.  When viewing a chart try looking up and down.   
Best of trading to everyone. 
Don</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great commentary by Chuck.<br />
Lest we not forget the difference in investing and trading.<br />
As a investor in PM&#8217;s I hold the long view and if, just if Prechter, Roubini and other naysayers are right.  Then you can take part or all of your core and buy current 3k to 5k<br />
acre farmland for $100 an acre, or a 10mil condo in Manhattan for 100k  So how can you lose.  The naysayers in all probability do not own any of the real stuff.  They resent the ones who do; still hiding behind mommy&#8217;s dress.<br />
On trading, different from investing; being on the right side of the trade either north or south will make you money. Looking at the daily GC charts from early 12-09 and see the daily swings a lot of money was made and is my view the volatility will only increase and  be with us for a long time so it&#8217;s time to trade up and down.  Your trading account does not care if it growing by either long or short trades.<br />
Going up in 11-09 Rick gave several warnings of GC getting toppy. I got out around 1217. Where are his warnings currently? I&#8217;m listening.<br />
Rick is great with this HP method of his; just follow it and try, try to leave the emotion out.  When leaving my bias out it works for me.  When viewing a chart try looking up and down.<br />
Best of trading to everyone.<br />
Don</p>
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		<title>By: FranSix</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Came across this item, which confirms my suspicions about negative interest rate policy:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&amp;sid=ahegQQCnLVyo

If three month treasuries are in a negative interest rate policy, then for certain negative overnight interest rates are called for.  The FOMC has not changed its rate, but the longer negative rates go on, the more the pressure will be to enter into &#039;real&#039; Quantitative Easing with negative rates.

Negative rates are a positive risk benefit to gold as a store of value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Came across this item, which confirms my suspicions about negative interest rate policy:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&amp;sid=ahegQQCnLVyo" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&amp;sid=ahegQQCnLVyo</a></p>
<p>If three month treasuries are in a negative interest rate policy, then for certain negative overnight interest rates are called for.  The FOMC has not changed its rate, but the longer negative rates go on, the more the pressure will be to enter into &#8216;real&#8217; Quantitative Easing with negative rates.</p>
<p>Negative rates are a positive risk benefit to gold as a store of value.</p>
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		<title>By: Other Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Other Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most readers have never experienced a old, classic Friday payday with a paymaster having you sign for your wages and being paid in cash, on the spot.  The vast majority of us never see actual cash on payday.  We hear an synthesized voice confirming how much our deposit was, go get a statement from the ATM, or see our direct deposit amount online.  Most of us have lost the connection between our work and our wages, and even more troubling, a sense of the value of our work and our wages.

Many of us are blessed with, let&#039;s face it, cushy jobs in air-conditioned offices, with a very high ratio of salary &quot;earned&quot; to calories burned.  We have all the modern conveniences and have a standard of living way above most people on Earth.  

As Mr. Cohen points out, the public hasn&#039;t &quot;gone crazy.&quot;  Tupper-gold parties are much more popular than gold investment seminars.  

Once the next major financial crisis strikes, many of us with soft bodies and softer hands will watch our electrons of fiat wealth quickly evaporate in value and  availability.  We will envy those who felt their silver certificates and silver coins in their hardened, calloused hands after a hard week&#039;s work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most readers have never experienced a old, classic Friday payday with a paymaster having you sign for your wages and being paid in cash, on the spot.  The vast majority of us never see actual cash on payday.  We hear an synthesized voice confirming how much our deposit was, go get a statement from the ATM, or see our direct deposit amount online.  Most of us have lost the connection between our work and our wages, and even more troubling, a sense of the value of our work and our wages.</p>
<p>Many of us are blessed with, let&#8217;s face it, cushy jobs in air-conditioned offices, with a very high ratio of salary &#8220;earned&#8221; to calories burned.  We have all the modern conveniences and have a standard of living way above most people on Earth.  </p>
<p>As Mr. Cohen points out, the public hasn&#8217;t &#8220;gone crazy.&#8221;  Tupper-gold parties are much more popular than gold investment seminars.  </p>
<p>Once the next major financial crisis strikes, many of us with soft bodies and softer hands will watch our electrons of fiat wealth quickly evaporate in value and  availability.  We will envy those who felt their silver certificates and silver coins in their hardened, calloused hands after a hard week&#8217;s work.</p>
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