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		<title>By: Willio42</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willio42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant, Roger.  What a fantastic quote:

 &quot;People used to want a pension so they either wouldn’t be a burden on their grandchildren, or be dependent upon them. Now, a pension is something to be sought, at the expense of what’s going to happen to your grandchildren.&quot;

Although, I think our problems have more to do with medical benefits and Fannie and Freddie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant, Roger.  What a fantastic quote:</p>
<p> &#8220;People used to want a pension so they either wouldn’t be a burden on their grandchildren, or be dependent upon them. Now, a pension is something to be sought, at the expense of what’s going to happen to your grandchildren.&#8221;</p>
<p>Although, I think our problems have more to do with medical benefits and Fannie and Freddie.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Uzick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Uzick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mario:

The skepticism that you express shows a healthy objectivity, but I would urge you not to allow skepticism to turn into cynicism; people do sometimes learn from their errors of judgment and shady background, rising to a higher moral calling, sometimes in atonement for their earlier deeds or simply from the wisdom that sometimes comes with experience and maturity .

We hear stories about MLK&#039;s  alleged moral shortcomings and Ron Paul&#039;s tolerance of racist associates; usually it&#039;s just an excuse by enemies of liberty to discredit their message by discrediting them. I believe there may be some truth about these alleged shortcomings, but I consider them to be no more relevant than the controversy over the actual author of the plays penned under Shakespeare&#039;s name. 

In any religion (Yes; devotion to liberty and human dignity is a religion.) the myth is more important than the man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mario:</p>
<p>The skepticism that you express shows a healthy objectivity, but I would urge you not to allow skepticism to turn into cynicism; people do sometimes learn from their errors of judgment and shady background, rising to a higher moral calling, sometimes in atonement for their earlier deeds or simply from the wisdom that sometimes comes with experience and maturity .</p>
<p>We hear stories about MLK&#8217;s  alleged moral shortcomings and Ron Paul&#8217;s tolerance of racist associates; usually it&#8217;s just an excuse by enemies of liberty to discredit their message by discrediting them. I believe there may be some truth about these alleged shortcomings, but I consider them to be no more relevant than the controversy over the actual author of the plays penned under Shakespeare&#8217;s name. </p>
<p>In any religion (Yes; devotion to liberty and human dignity is a religion.) the myth is more important than the man.</p>
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		<title>By: mario cavolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mario cavolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 04:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich, Greydog....Stuff like this is the kind of stuff I have to say is met with enormous doubt, same as for example when I hear foreigner&#039;s complain that activists who have pissed off the Chinese govt didn&#039;t DO ANYTHING WRONG? I am talking about whether we know the real facts, I am not making any kind of political or govt statement here. 

For example, How does anyone know that these people, including Julia Sorokin, the Falun Gong, activist Weiwei and many others did not in fact do anything wrong at all ever?  That&#039;s nonsense to assume.   I know for a fact that an American Harvard grad did his doctorate on the Falun Gong, for example, who specifically knows that early on, persons in their organization commited plenty of criminal acts, destroying and attacking for example, radio stations. Well that would easily explain why someone is pissed at them, eh? So while today, they may be a friendly bunch of lovers of calm breathing and quite meditation, there is more to the story and there almost always is, eh?   

According to every article link I have read, Julia Sorokin got nailed because she falsely sold ads to the WSJ and NYT, the customers who gave her money complained when their ads didn&#039;t appear in those newspapers.  So then, you want me to, I am supposed to assume that those facts are 100% FALSE and the facts that she claims that the monsters ruined her life are 100% TRUE ? 

Doubtful. I read their blog, and I know how to write, and I read many statements in their version of the story which don&#039;t add up. 

Weiwei is an activist on democracry in China... oh poor oppressed Weiwei, right?  But he&#039;s a millionaire, did you know that? Surprise! He&#039;s not some poor street guy protesting for democracy. He is worth a huge load of money and I would reasonably bet in Vegas that alot of that money came because of gov&#039;t relations he had along the way, now it seems he owes a million or so in back income taxes, well if that is true, then he must have earned millions to be owing the taxes in the first place, yes?... oh poor Weiwei...do you think maybe along the way he may have bit the hand that was feeding him and now they&#039;re pissed...? 

My point which is appreciated  by most people here has absolutely nothing to do with the government or politics, is that in fact we don&#039;t know the details, DON&quot;T BELIEVE EVERTHING YOU READ.  Whether the source is an individual, a company or a govt, EVERYTHING YOU READ IS THEIR VERSION OF THE STORY. 

Call me a concerned, intelligent, healthy skeptic. That&#039;s the world we live in. 

Cheers, Mario</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich, Greydog&#8230;.Stuff like this is the kind of stuff I have to say is met with enormous doubt, same as for example when I hear foreigner&#8217;s complain that activists who have pissed off the Chinese govt didn&#8217;t DO ANYTHING WRONG? I am talking about whether we know the real facts, I am not making any kind of political or govt statement here. </p>
<p>For example, How does anyone know that these people, including Julia Sorokin, the Falun Gong, activist Weiwei and many others did not in fact do anything wrong at all ever?  That&#8217;s nonsense to assume.   I know for a fact that an American Harvard grad did his doctorate on the Falun Gong, for example, who specifically knows that early on, persons in their organization commited plenty of criminal acts, destroying and attacking for example, radio stations. Well that would easily explain why someone is pissed at them, eh? So while today, they may be a friendly bunch of lovers of calm breathing and quite meditation, there is more to the story and there almost always is, eh?   </p>
<p>According to every article link I have read, Julia Sorokin got nailed because she falsely sold ads to the WSJ and NYT, the customers who gave her money complained when their ads didn&#8217;t appear in those newspapers.  So then, you want me to, I am supposed to assume that those facts are 100% FALSE and the facts that she claims that the monsters ruined her life are 100% TRUE ? </p>
<p>Doubtful. I read their blog, and I know how to write, and I read many statements in their version of the story which don&#8217;t add up. </p>
<p>Weiwei is an activist on democracry in China&#8230; oh poor oppressed Weiwei, right?  But he&#8217;s a millionaire, did you know that? Surprise! He&#8217;s not some poor street guy protesting for democracy. He is worth a huge load of money and I would reasonably bet in Vegas that alot of that money came because of gov&#8217;t relations he had along the way, now it seems he owes a million or so in back income taxes, well if that is true, then he must have earned millions to be owing the taxes in the first place, yes?&#8230; oh poor Weiwei&#8230;do you think maybe along the way he may have bit the hand that was feeding him and now they&#8217;re pissed&#8230;? </p>
<p>My point which is appreciated  by most people here has absolutely nothing to do with the government or politics, is that in fact we don&#8217;t know the details, DON&#8221;T BELIEVE EVERTHING YOU READ.  Whether the source is an individual, a company or a govt, EVERYTHING YOU READ IS THEIR VERSION OF THE STORY. </p>
<p>Call me a concerned, intelligent, healthy skeptic. That&#8217;s the world we live in. </p>
<p>Cheers, Mario</p>
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		<title>By: roger erickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stock markets are defended by CBs primarily to protect existing pension funds, which anchor existing politics.

  Outdated metrics can be made to look good on paper, but to what real benefit, and outcome?

see http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=17816&amp;utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+economicoutlook%2FFYvo+%28billy+blog%29

People used to want a pension so they either wouldn&#039;t be a burden on their grandchildren, or be dependent upon them.  Now, a pension is something to be sought, at the expense of what&#039;s going to happen to your grandchildren.

We&#039;re at a point where doing what we thought was right, is now exactly wrong.  Doing evil by preaching what feels right?

There is a better way.  Pursue sane operations, rather than just comforting but abstract political metrics, which also get outdated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stock markets are defended by CBs primarily to protect existing pension funds, which anchor existing politics.</p>
<p>  Outdated metrics can be made to look good on paper, but to what real benefit, and outcome?</p>
<p>see <a href="http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=17816&amp;utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+economicoutlook%2FFYvo+%28billy+blog%29" rel="nofollow">http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=17816&amp;utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+economicoutlook%2FFYvo+%28billy+blog%29</a></p>
<p>People used to want a pension so they either wouldn&#8217;t be a burden on their grandchildren, or be dependent upon them.  Now, a pension is something to be sought, at the expense of what&#8217;s going to happen to your grandchildren.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re at a point where doing what we thought was right, is now exactly wrong.  Doing evil by preaching what feels right?</p>
<p>There is a better way.  Pursue sane operations, rather than just comforting but abstract political metrics, which also get outdated.</p>
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		<title>By: Bc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well now you&#039;re getting it. I wish I was wrong. Honest I do.  We are in the end game. Hopping into cash may not save us either. When hyperinflation begins it is driven by a huge increase in money velocity as  people rush to spend on any real goods they can find.   Like a fire in a theatre not everyone can get out alive.   Even my own wife doesn&#039;t believe this can happen.  So we sit and watch the show. What&#039;s  that smell?  Could it be smoke? Nah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well now you&#8217;re getting it. I wish I was wrong. Honest I do.  We are in the end game. Hopping into cash may not save us either. When hyperinflation begins it is driven by a huge increase in money velocity as  people rush to spend on any real goods they can find.   Like a fire in a theatre not everyone can get out alive.   Even my own wife doesn&#8217;t believe this can happen.  So we sit and watch the show. What&#8217;s  that smell?  Could it be smoke? Nah.</p>
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		<title>By: fallingman</title>
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		<dc:creator>fallingman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Argentina moment.  Yeah, it&#039;s sad, isn&#039;t it?
Exactly the way I see it too, for what that&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Argentina moment.  Yeah, it&#8217;s sad, isn&#8217;t it?<br />
Exactly the way I see it too, for what that&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich,   According to Mitt, and correctly - all persons are corporate and equal (14th amendment).   The &#039;federal union of states&#039; is one territorial boundry with &#039;districts&#039; not individual states.   Maybe, if the heat is turned up on a D.A. who fears protests something might happen.  Don&#039;t forget that not long ago 97 Senators voted to institute arrest/detention without cause, with unlimited duration, and not court.

It will take flesh in the streets protesting.  How likely is that Rich?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich,   According to Mitt, and correctly &#8211; all persons are corporate and equal (14th amendment).   The &#8216;federal union of states&#8217; is one territorial boundry with &#8216;districts&#8217; not individual states.   Maybe, if the heat is turned up on a D.A. who fears protests something might happen.  Don&#8217;t forget that not long ago 97 Senators voted to institute arrest/detention without cause, with unlimited duration, and not court.</p>
<p>It will take flesh in the streets protesting.  How likely is that Rich?</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>greydog says:
January 19, 2012 at 10:08 am

Hi everyone,

If you want to help someone read the story below:

There was a San Diego woman that was arrested for owning a website the Wall Street Journal wanted so they had the New York City District Attorney indict her for Personal Identity Theft of a website domain.

Julia had a similar website domain name for her business.

They kidnapped this woman from her home in San Diego and keep her in prison for 3 weeks in two states without giving her her charges or a attorney. She had a miscarriage in prison.

They then took her to New York City to face felony charges of Personal Identity Theft on 4 counts as a New York City resident. She was facing 21 years for legally owning a website that a major corporation wanted so that they could turn it into a new business model.

Her husband sold his business and paid the $50,000 bail and took her home to California when the NY State judge told her that Newspapers are people and that gave them jurisdiction in California and he was proceeding with the prosecution without human victims of Identity Theft.

The husband sued in Federal court the Dow Jones &amp; Co. – The New York District Attorney – The City of New York – The NYPD and was told they all had absolute immunity.

The case is now in the 2 Circuit Court of Appeals Case # 11-2619 Sorokin vs New York District Attorney. So yes they can come to your home kidnap you, make you disappear for weeks without a attorney and then put you in jail over a website domain dispute.

You can call the New York City District Attorney media contact Erin Duggan             (212) 335-9400       and tell her that the DA should drop all charges against Julia Sorokin.

This happened way before NDAA, SOPA, and GOOG is already censoring the US internet.

Make the call and get them to drop the charges.

Greydog

http://www.infowars.com/google-is-already-using-sopa-like-censorship/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>greydog says:<br />
January 19, 2012 at 10:08 am</p>
<p>Hi everyone,</p>
<p>If you want to help someone read the story below:</p>
<p>There was a San Diego woman that was arrested for owning a website the Wall Street Journal wanted so they had the New York City District Attorney indict her for Personal Identity Theft of a website domain.</p>
<p>Julia had a similar website domain name for her business.</p>
<p>They kidnapped this woman from her home in San Diego and keep her in prison for 3 weeks in two states without giving her her charges or a attorney. She had a miscarriage in prison.</p>
<p>They then took her to New York City to face felony charges of Personal Identity Theft on 4 counts as a New York City resident. She was facing 21 years for legally owning a website that a major corporation wanted so that they could turn it into a new business model.</p>
<p>Her husband sold his business and paid the $50,000 bail and took her home to California when the NY State judge told her that Newspapers are people and that gave them jurisdiction in California and he was proceeding with the prosecution without human victims of Identity Theft.</p>
<p>The husband sued in Federal court the Dow Jones &amp; Co. – The New York District Attorney – The City of New York – The NYPD and was told they all had absolute immunity.</p>
<p>The case is now in the 2 Circuit Court of Appeals Case # 11-2619 Sorokin vs New York District Attorney. So yes they can come to your home kidnap you, make you disappear for weeks without a attorney and then put you in jail over a website domain dispute.</p>
<p>You can call the New York City District Attorney media contact Erin Duggan             (212) 335-9400       and tell her that the DA should drop all charges against Julia Sorokin.</p>
<p>This happened way before NDAA, SOPA, and GOOG is already censoring the US internet.</p>
<p>Make the call and get them to drop the charges.</p>
<p>Greydog</p>
<p><a href="http://www.infowars.com/google-is-already-using-sopa-like-censorship/" rel="nofollow">http://www.infowars.com/google-is-already-using-sopa-like-censorship/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judge Napolitano endorsed the good Doctor as the only choice for life, liberty, peace and prosperity despite election fraud, and a leading fundraiser, much of it from our military, hello:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=xRYEHFOh0e8 
4:11</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judge Napolitano endorsed the good Doctor as the only choice for life, liberty, peace and prosperity despite election fraud, and a leading fundraiser, much of it from our military, hello:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=xRYEHFOh0e8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=xRYEHFOh0e8</a><br />
4:11</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree JJ, altho there are temptations:

BAC/WS/B up 148% so far:

http://richcash8tradeblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/bacwsb29-cents-buy-america-its-on-sale.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree JJ, altho there are temptations:</p>
<p>BAC/WS/B up 148% so far:</p>
<p><a href="http://richcash8tradeblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/bacwsb29-cents-buy-america-its-on-sale.html" rel="nofollow">http://richcash8tradeblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/bacwsb29-cents-buy-america-its-on-sale.html</a></p>
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