Doomsdayers Are Not Cynical Enough

[Like your editor, Rick’s Picks forum regular Wayne Razzi (aka “Red Will”) is a veteran floor-trader who grew up in South Jersey.  When I asked him if he would like to contribute a guest commentary, I was not expecting the provocative tour de force that unfolds, step by step, below. In the essay, Will asserts nothing less that that the impending collapse of our economic system was meticulously engineered by financial and political sociopaths. Let me attest that his is not some whack-o conspiracy theory; rather, it is the closely-reasoned argument of a highly intelligent person who values truth sufficiently to have searched for it, in the form of an answer to a profoundly disturbing question, for many years. Judge for yourself whether his conclusions tally with your own thoughts as to why the American Dream is about to go bust. RA]

As a regular reader of Rick’s Picks and occasional commentator within the forum, I was happy to accept Rick’s offer to contribute a guest commentary.  Unfortunately, my happiness faded rather quickly as each day of the week passed and with each, more and more commentary appeared within the forum.  Normally I am pleased to read through the robust collection of viewpoints and argumentation.  However, and quite regrettably, these are not normal times!  With each day, and each comment, and each reply, I witnessed a slow motion, apathetic paraphrasing of much of my prepared commentary by faceless strangers!

So with my best-written plans bested by many of you bloviators. ;- ) , I elected to go with something entirely different instead of offering my all-too-similar take on many of the economic issues that were covered and subsequently expanded upon within the forum.

I have a few things in common with Rick, one of which is having been born and raised in southern New Jersey.  We also share the fact that both of us spent at least a decade or so as a professional on-floor equity options market maker.  I note this commonality because there is a tendency amongst peer traders to assume that everyone “knows what we know” and ironically, many of the same traders also believe that they have some sort of proprietary edge that many other traders do not possess.  Thinking of this is what helped me to find what I hope will be a little fresh material for you.

I am going to present few disparate items here but I believe that there is one singular lesson that is worth learning and worth learning now more than at any other time in my career.  I will start off with the “micro,” by which I mean something that I can testify to from having witnessed it within my own little world.  I cannot speak for Rick, but I would suspect the same.

Incompetent, But Curious

After being hazed all day and into most evenings by my firm’s Options Specialists for about six months, I was given a seat on the trading floor.  It is from that point on that I began the conversion from business school idealist to incompetent cynic.  In fact, well before I officially became a trader, I witnessed “broad daylight” collusion every day.  The myths of the “fair and orderly market” and the “competitive open outcry system” were dispelled almost immediately as soon as I had learned enough as a trainee to be able to slow down the frenetic action to a pace that was comprehensible.  What do I mean?  Why is this important?  Well, in theory, the traders of options on a given stock are supposed to be competitors that do not cooperate with other members to set market prices on which the public will execute trades.  The reality is that the main trader, typically the specialist, makes the bid-ask spread market and the majority of the time the entire trading crowd simply states their level of commitment to the market that he has made.  Here is the problem, OUR watch-dog, the SEC, rarely if ever has done anything about this clear violation of the law. Many techniques and devices are employed to encourage market makers to play ball.  Any time spent on some of the options floors over the years would have revealed this to the SEC.  This means… they know it and they just do not care.  They have always known it.  This may not be a revelation here in 2010 with Rick’s “crowd” being a rather enlightened one, but 20 years ago this matter-of-fact flouting of the law initially stunned this “Econ/Finance” dual-major as these business practices were conspicuously absent from the textbooks.  What does this prove?  It proves what many of you — but until recently not nearly enough people — believed:  The government is entirely about strategic, selective prosecution.  Shocked, right?  The government and the markets are corrupt!  I am sure that many of you are floored!   Hold on though, I am “going somewhere” with this as it is stated.

As you have probably already guessed, this “welcome to the real world of our markets” experience put me on a path that would shatter nearly all of my idealistic beliefs about a country with systems that I was raised to revere.  Just in case you weren’t sure how corrupt things actually are within our markets, it’s my hope that any faith that you may have reserved is fully gone by now because if it can happen in plain view amongst competitors then much more can clearly occur behind closed doors.  Let’s get back to that “assume that others know what you know” concept and in doing so, we’ll leap ahead in time by about five years.

Beneath the Surface

As the years in the options markets and on the floors and desks began to add up, less and less of the reality being presented to me actually made any sense to me at all.  For the first five or so years of my career, the Internet wasn’t there to reference at all.  The next few years brought some maturation to the Internet but the information available from it wasn’t nearly as raw and diverse as it is for us today.  This made for tedious times when I would search for hours nearly every weeknight in an ongoing effort to learn more of the truth that I believed was out there somewhere.   I gradually stopped feeling as though the marketplace was littered with cheaters and manipulators, as it always had been, and began to feel as though there was much more at work beneath the surface.

Yes, you are on to me again, I sensed the dreaded “conspiracy.”  “Conspiracy theorist” isn’t the kind of description that most people would seek to invite upon themselves, but labels never really bothered me.  I raise this because I want to encourage folks to stay on the path they are on in seeking the truth, despite the fact that I do not hold the answers, as I believe that the trends and developments that we’ve had to contend with over the past 20 years cannot be purely coincidental.  These persistent and evolving feelings continued to develop and eventually led me to think of things within a simplistic biological construct in an attempt to draw the best analogy that I could.  This was somewhat ironic because biology could very well be my area of greatest ignorance and not for a lack of competition.  Fortunately, after searching for commentary that contained the analogies I was drawing, and before I was forced to relearn all the “stuff” from high school bio that I’d forgotten, a much more intelligent and well informed commentator brought forth the best description that I have found to describe what has and is happening to Uncle Sam and by extension his subjects.  Her name is Catherine Austin Fitts, and although it remains impossible for me to verify her claims and research, her “take” on things seems the most plausible to me of all that I’ve researched and considered. Her profile has risen dramatically since I first encountered some of her work about 12 years ago but, in the case that readers haven’t come across her work, I encourage them to stop by her site even just to briefly peruse her writings.  Her “type” of information (things like $2.3 TRILLION missing from our Federal Government) is what I was referring to when I noted how traders assume that other traders possess the same information.  I hope that she will not mind me sharing this from her Solari website, as it is the basis for the operating thesis that I’ve co-opted ever since then:

Tapeworm Economy

In a tapeworm economy a small group of insiders centralize political and economic power at the expense of people, living things and the environment, in a manner that destroys real wealth. A tapeworm economy is one in which it is considered acceptable to make money from our popsicle index (Ed.- established societal standards) going down. In investment terms, it is an economy with a negative return on investment. It is parasitic in nature.

The way an actual tapeworm operates is to inject its host with a chemical that makes the host crave what is good for the tapeworm and bad for the host. So the Tapeworm Economy is adept at using media and education and numerous financial incentives to get us acting against our own strategic interests and instead supporting and depending on the Tapeworm.

The symptoms of the Tapeworm are many – narcotics trafficking that targets our children, runaway exploitive and predatory corporate practices such as the patenting of life, terminator seed and the destruction of our topsoil and food supply, fraudulent inducement of debt to homeowners, students and consumers, suppression of knowledge and renewable energy technology, criminal mismanagement of government credit and resources, black budget operations and the manipulation of currency, financial and precious metal prices and markets. These practices introduce organized crime throughout all aspects of our lives… these transactions drain our families and neighborhoods on a daily basis – much like a tapeworm drains its host.

A Revelation from Ms. Fitts

Again, this may not seem entirely like a revelation to many of you now, but as noted, I was by good fortune able to stumble upon Ms. Fitts’ commentary and website back in the late 1990s, if memory serves.  Hers along with the commentary of assorted others gave me the confidence I needed to leave the legacy thought-paradigms that I’d been indoctrinated in as are most American kids.  The more I thought about things from this newly confident perspective the more the cognitive dissonance receded from my mind.  In an effort to bring a little more tangibility, I’ll over-simplify an example by using the dominant thought of the late 90’s era:

The market did nothing until the Republicans surged in the 1994 elections. Wall Street is supposedly tight with them so they must not like Clinton and thus his administration must not like Wall Street.  So even though almost all of these earnings and economic reports seem entirely too perfect vs. expectations, Clinton’s SEC et al. wouldn’t let “Wall Street Fat Cats” and Evil Corporatists slide if they could nail them.

Hopefully you now have a sense of how much clearer things became for me when I felt confident enough to abandon the conventional consensus and traditional schools of thought regarding the current set of underlying problems.  A technique that has always worked well for me is the old “step back and see the big picture,” especially when things seem either too perfect or incongruent.  Detaching and deconstructing, drawing analogies and then putting them into perspective against what I’m seeing or sensing has normally helped to keep me slightly ahead of the consensus in the markets.  This is important because as an options market maker you need to not only be concerned with the now but possibly two years out and beyond as you are making markets on options that can repeatedly affect your risk profile for those durations.  The liquidity in long-term outer-month options is not nearly as reliable as the front months so you had better be pretty sure of yourself when you pull a two-year trigger.  I did not find this to be simple task because there is not much time left for esoteric research after you have been focused on managing risks to yield profits in highly-bubbletized markets for most of the day.

The Payoff…

I do apologize for feeling it necessary to work some of my personal background into this piece, but now that I have, we can finally get to the payoff I’ve been driving towards.  Much of what you’re about to read may no longer carry the shock value that it once did, but that’s always the case from what I’ve observed.  Over 90 percent of our peers will always seem to treat the minority opinion with nothing less than disdain, only to claim in retrospect that “…well, everyone knew that.  That’s no surprise.”  Yes, they are pretty quick to price it into their working model when the rest of the majority has finally acknowledged that the unlikely has become the actual.

It’s been about 20 years since the “PAX Americana” and “peace dividend” discussions began to pollute the mainstream dialogue.  So what happened?  How is it that the USA now finds itself at the mercy of the central planners in communist China?  Wait, hasn’t the MSM repeatedly told us that we weren’t in asset-price bubbles and that true prosperity was constantly being created as a result of these series of non-bubbles?  What happened here in a “nutshell”?

Here is my brief “nutshell.” The last 20 years of faux “prosperity” are primarily the result of absurdly misguided credit expansion and various forms of hyper-manipulation (accounting fraud, falsified statistics and reports, ) engineered by various organizations and entities of various sizes, some of which work in concert.  As for “backup” on my claims, I’d cite many of the same items that several other Rick’s Picks commentators have in their comments and possibly a few of my own: John Williams (Shadow Stats) on Statistical Fraud; John Hussman on  pervasive Accounting Fraud; FASB Accounting Standards Degradation; Revelation of the True Value of and subsequent Humiliation of the Ratings Agencies; FED Serial Bubble Fomentation / Deformation of the natural Business Cycle; 20 years of housing appreciation and related activity condensed into roughly 5 years; various episodes such as Dell computer’s adding an estimated $1.8 billion over two years to the bottom line as the result of writing put options against their own share price while Michael Dell waxed on with boundless optimism; not having to account for employee stock options for years; Seagate’s filling warehouses with hard drives and counting them in “Sales” to “beat the number”; Henry Blodget-esque IPO-related fraud; the effective “Enronization” of corporations; Wall Street and our government at every level. Etcetera.

Web of Collusion

In 2010, most of the items listed above have been acknowledged, but I can tell you that arguing about these items and issues in real-time was not a pleasant experience, as the key information was not easily referenced.  Most of the contra-side arguments focused on how “complex” a web of collusion would have been needed to pull off such thorough deception.  The problem with this position for me has always been that the key vulnerability of the system is too easily overlooked.  I’m referring to what is now popularly identified as the mainstream media (MSM).  My perspective is that “if you have the MSM, you have all you need”.  It shocks me still that most of the professional traders that I know still take their news from these propaganda outlets.  The unfortunately reality for me though is that it all flows from there.

Another argument that I’ve heard quite a bit over the years is that the “profit motive” would serve to incentivize an MSM member or organization to report reality.  I’m both surprised and unsurprised at times when I find myself listening to this argument for what seems like the thousandth time.  Let’s just step back for a moment and consider things another way.  The first rule of investing is preservation of capital, at least in theory.  That being the case, why is it that the MSM (the people’s watchdog) has never exposed the widespread fraud that has underpinned all of these bubble-driven markets over the past 20 years?  Why is it that they treated non-believers with scorn on the rare occasions when they actually permitted them to appear on air?  Why didn’t they learn from the first bubble and become more skeptical in their treatment?  Where were the investigative pieces, the exposés, that only seem to be broadcast-worthy after the inevitable pop has occurred?

USA Rapidly Deteriorating

Sticking with the step-back-perspective theme with an eye towards wrapping things up, let’s consider how dire things are at present.  I hate to add even more length to this piece but it is clear from just a few headlines that the USA is in rapid deterioration mode, and not just fiscally/economically:

  • A nearly perfectly divided electorate that’s addicted to the right/left paradigm
  • Police are ignoring calls for certain serious crimes yet indoctrinated citizens are more fearful of firearms than of having to defend their families and homes against illegally armed thugs with no support from law enforcement
  • Education here is largely a qualitative and fiscal farce
  • In what could be described as an unimaginable achievement, popular culture now makes anything prior to the 70’s appear to have been a modern Renaissance period
  • Our government is dedicated to Homeland Security at airports but our borders are porous.  The MSM will never highlight this contradiction.  Is it possible that “the war on drugs” only applies to those that aren’t with the company?
  • Perpetual wars are by and large accepted when they are even thought of at all
  • And of those plans to bring back those jobs that are never coming back and about revitalizing and retooling those manufacturing centers that will never hum again?
  • Can we really Smartphone and service business our way out of the destructive vortex that we’ve allowed them to conjure at will with an end goal of debt enslavement?
  • What I refer to as the “Manipulation Cartels” have amassed and consolidated power like never before
  • The “button pushers” seem to want to implode the system but on their timeline and with some fragments of realism included to maintain “believability”

Now, does this seem like a country that should legitimately be on the verge of a genuine and powerful bull market leg towards new highs?  I’m not sure about your life, but I’ve found it difficult to get my best-laid plans to work out even when I’ve done everything right consistently over a good period of time!  Yet with our society crumbling into freefall before our eyes we’re told that the market is wildly undervalued.  As I’ve noted in the forum, I do believe that the market can remain detached from realities for a good long time.  New highs wouldn’t shock me at all because I’ve seen how powerful and resourceful the manipulation can be at times.  What would still shock me is the number of people that wouldn’t question the legitimacy of such a scenario.  By the way, are we sure that it is preferable that this dysfunctional prison-barge-of-a-society really is worth saving in its current form?  Do you really have confidence that any of our real problems will be solved while working within this entirely gamed system?

Dystopia Is ‘In’

It is clear to see that the present and future are much bleaker for the people but that the elites have done a fine job to this point to preserve and expand their positions and thus have at least in relative terms set themselves up quite nicely for the next round of disparity expansion.  The Bravo channel may not have officially pronounced it yet but Dystopia is “in” now and there’s a good chance that it will have more staying power than the leisure suit.

It is my belief that more Americans need to leave the type of thinking that they, like I, were raised to perform behind for their own survival.  Because of what are generally described as libertarian beliefs and as I believe the quagmire to be hopelessly intractable, I strongly advocate peaceful secession from what is still referred to as the United States of America.  It’s my wish that more folks would realize that we’re only united by the chains of debt enslavement and that it makes little practical sense to allow malicious statists on the other side of the continent to lord over the lives of our families and children.  Ask yourself why the federal government should still enjoy our confidence?  It, along with our representatives, has epically failed us in every conceivable way.  It eludes me as to how folks can actually believe that it can all be attributed to political incompetence and chance.  I would find it exceedingly difficult to calculate the odds of this rapid and complete collapse being pure in nature.  I had planned to spin through the Carousel of Frauds, from NAFTA to the era of the PC to the era of the Internet; and with both productivity gains, to the commodities manipulation to the housing bubble and finally to the fact that it’s all been made to happen by the same cartels of legalized criminals, that despite it all, still control our lives to a large degree!  But I’m literally 10x over my requested word limit already! [Perfectly all right, Will. I’d be eager to read this at book length. RA]

If You’re Unconvinced…

If you remain an unconvinced true believer in the American Way and believe that people like me have been taken in by the “conspiracy theory” cottage industry, all that I can respond with is, “You may be right”.  It is impossible to know for certain what is referred to as the “absolute truth.” Nonetheless, I would ask that you only consider one more suggestion that I make here: Learn how to implement what is known by options investors as the “collar” strategy for your portfolio just in case your feelings change at some point in the near future.

Obviously, as a regular reader, I value Rick’s perspective, but I feel as though I differ with him rather significantly with regards to the levels and totality of manipulation of various forms that are at work not only in the markets but that has permeated nearly everything at this point in time.

Having spent nearly 20 years doing what I can to uncover the truth after continually witnessing the statistically improbable occur just on the heels of the highly unlikely, I’ll conclude with this:  No matter how cynical one thinks he or she is, I’ll take the contra-side every time and bet that the overwhelming majority of investors are not nearly cynical enough in their analysis.  My friends, these financial sociopaths and their sociopol lackeys play for keeps.

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  • walter fields September 13, 2010, 5:27 pm

    Buster, Do you pride yourself in ignorance and blindness
    to clarity of expression? One expects that from G.W.
    Bush – I.Q. 91 – but you pretend to be a critic of this
    nightmare. No respect, Walter Fields

  • redwilldanaher September 13, 2010, 4:53 pm

    Mario, please help me out. I’m trying to figure out if you or I or both of us should be disappointed that we weren’t born into busking.

    • mario cavolo September 14, 2010, 4:34 am

      wow, perhaps the most famous examples of the busker lifestyle would be Santa Monica in CA and the nightly Key West sunset buskers in Florida…

      Ok, so here’s the entrepreneurial home-based business idea seminar….teaching people how to start their own business as a busker or other type of street business…

      Cheers RDH, Mario

  • mario cavolo September 13, 2010, 9:29 am

    Say Goodbye to Yields and Say Goodbye to Doomsday

    How can there be a financial crisis when constantly being IN a financial crisis is already the new norm?

    There is no such thing as any company failing, there will be not be another Lehman Bros. or housing crisis announcement to make the market’s go crashing to hell because if there is any other major default in the works, the government will simply be informed of the next “pending” crisis, step in, and print some more to cover it.

    With ballooning debt the new normal state of affairs, say goodbye to yields and say goodbye to the purchasing power of currency. How and how long this is going to play out is anyone’s guess, but I can tell you for sure that 20 years from now a gallon of milk or gas is going to be today’s equivalent of US $15 and everything else will be relative to that.

    In America the “entrepreneurial streetlife” is going to become the new norm for millions, because there will be no other choice, no return to how things were. In China, a person find a box, a rag and shoe polish to make a living shining shoes if that’s what it takes; Motorcyclists waiting at bus stops to give people a ride home for a $1 a pop to put food on the table. The war is going to be against the rules and regulations which have choked normal life for people trying to provide for their families. When every street corner has a lemonade stand, and everyone goes knocking on the mayor’s door saying they refuse to pay the fine, it will be a different day and that day is coming in America. I’m going to help it along.

    Cheers, Mario

  • Buster September 12, 2010, 8:15 pm

    Some people are great writers & some great speakers, others are better at understanding or analysing. It doesn’t matter how it was written, it’s the point that matters most.
    The system is corrupted! Does it matter. Inevitably, yes.

    Regarding what to do about it. Lets take one example beginning with the following report:

    I don’t know whether this story is true, but from my experience it’s likely, at least.
    I suspect the outcome will be similar to the pension schemes, where after years of paying into them, it turns out to be worth a lot less to people than they thought.
    It wouldn’t surprise me if the paper market price for gold one day collapses when people realise they’ve been had, whilst the physical price responds to the full weight of gold investment demand.
    Then again, if enough people had physical they’d just make it illegal to own.
    Ultimatly, we live under a predatory system whose greed knows no limits. It wants everything….the wealth, the power, the planet, space and us!
    The US constitution was a vain attempt to make the people the guardians of their own country, devised because of the harsh experience of the UK predatory establishment.
    The plan failed miserably. Nothing less than a superior military force can stop them now. Those who think otherwise have no idea what we are up against!
    What we can do in the meantime is limited.
    I’d take what I can get out of the virtual system and do something ‘real’ with it. But don’t do it based on making a profit alone. Grow some natural food & learn about natural health would be a good first move.
    Most of all though, become aware of what is really happening in the world, and keep positive.

    • redwilldanaher September 13, 2010, 4:48 pm

      Thanks Buster, I think you just made a lot of sense. Thanks for the practical suggestions too.

  • Greg September 12, 2010, 12:18 am

    My questions to the group are if the markets are so compromised and rigged should we just cash out and hide in PM’s until the dust settels? Is there any safe brokerage that will survive the next meltdown? Is there any safe stock? I like Edward Jones and Scottrade because they have very little derivative exposure and high capital ratios. I like mining and oil stocks. I despise ETF’s of all kinds. I know there are many smart people on this site because I’ve been reading it for years. This is my first comment/question. This was a very good article, and Rick, this is a very good site. Thank you.

    • redwilldanaher September 13, 2010, 4:45 pm

      Greg thanks for you comments. You’re the kind of person that I had in mind when I wrote this for RPs. You ask many questions so it is difficult to answer them all. My opinion is that you can do many things if you have the time, the knowledge and the capital. Obviously there is still opportunity in the market since typically opportunity = volatility in trading. I think trading free of your long term macro opinions with a basis in technical analysis is fine to engage in. Not surprisingly as a former MM, desk trader, software developer and options educator etc. I would suggest that you delve into options if you haven’t already. It’s clear to me given the “internal” statistics on how this market is being systematically marked up and supported that there isn’t much if any downside possible without a serious catalyst. TPTB are in complete control at the moment so ride it if you can. I always suggest the same thing to people: Why not use ITM options instead of shares if you plan on holding for weeks or months? Yes they are generally less liquid but there are many other advantages. Consider this: Let’s say a catalyst for downside appears. Will it require a good deal of time to permeate the mainstream or will it appear overnight? We can never be sure but if we’re in shares we will lose $ for $ all the way down. An ITM call, any call for that matter, has a “built in” put option. If you wake up one morning and The Great OZ is on the tube my guess is that you’ll be happy you paid a little “vig” to play with an option.

  • Frank September 11, 2010, 11:09 pm

    Personally, I thought it was poorly written and the author failed to make clear points about his topic. No real meat and only slight references to what the author attempted to convey. This is coming from one who believes in what the author attempted to write about.

    • Rick Ackerman September 12, 2010, 6:58 pm

      Try re-reading the essay, Frank. Of the 77 posts logged thus far, you’re the only who thinks it was poorly written.

    • redwilldanaher September 13, 2010, 4:33 pm

      Frank, thanks for your constructive criticism. I am the author and I agree with you to a point. What you state was done intentionally however. The regular audience here at RP’s is an intelligent and informed one yet there are many that frequent the site yet do not comment. I was writing to both but more so to the silent majority. I wanted to try to inspire people to look at things a different way and to encourage them to take the plunge into “off the books” stuff. It’s not easy to do for many reasons. I tried to write this with slight references as there is far too much information to be considered within the short piece that Rick typically publishes here. I’m not fond of connect the dots literature and cinema. I prefer a little ambiguity especially when the true explanations are likely to be subjective. I tried to encourage people to start to consider and explore alternative information. Perhaps my subtle attempts at it failed to come through as effectively as I hoped they would.

  • walter fields September 11, 2010, 4:10 pm

    Logorrhea is our plague. Within the arguments expressed,
    all economy is abandoned, thus adding to the
    white noise which is all, all, all to the enemy’s advantage.
    We mesmerize ourselves with tautology and opine ourselves to death. Read your Peirce and Wittgenstein.
    Cut to the chase. Respectfully, Walter Fields

    • redwilldanaher September 13, 2010, 5:05 pm

      Hi Walter, I tried to “cut to the chase”. I thought it worked. Maybe it didn’t. That was the main point for my Catherin Austin Fitts reference and inclusion.

  • Buster September 11, 2010, 1:26 pm

    Probably there is no event other than 9/11 which stands to show just what is happening to our world.
    Just 10 minutes are needed to see that the 9/11 event deserves our scrutiny, at least for respect of those that died:

    Also see what’s happened to the witnesses since:

    “Fareinheit 9 11” offers an interesting assessment of the event, too, along with “Empire of the city- the ring of power.”

    People are polarized with most things, it appears, and evidence is rarely looked at with an honest assessment by most.
    Believe what you want, but reality has a habit of overcoming our perception of it.
    The world is drowning in corruption and lies, with genocide committed for profit at so many levels, perpetrated by so many groups, corporations & governments. Yet with a little bit of spin and authoritive sounding spokesmen, & with main stream media backing, people actually deny there is anything untoward happening apart from by those who they think they oppose. All argued with a straight face.

    Take my advice. Throw your opinions away, take time to asses the evidence mounted against the whole human race, not just those who you think are on the other side.

    There is no loyalty toward any of us from the corrupt who lust for positions of power & privilege.
    Your enemies are murdered and robbed today, you and your family tomorrow.
    They are already attacking you even as you defend them, as you will see when you wake up!

    We are approaching the end game. The intensification and conclusion of what we have always been…liars and corrupted.
    Nothing will stop it from happening. The suffering will be on an immense scale, as it is already, just less hidden.
    The ‘conspiracy theorists’ will even be shocked and awed at what we will all have to see clearly.
    It will be so conclusive there will be no doubts to what truth actually is. Enjoy your denial for a little while yet! There will be nowhere to hide from seeing it.

    The ‘man of lawlessness’ will be revealed, even is already to those that dare to glimse his deformed and malignant face!

    The future is out of any of our hands, we’ve had enough time Now what comes is an inevitability, if it was ever anything else.

    Each of us should watch our own selves that we are not, even unknowingly, supporting the corrupt. Know who they are & what they are doing before selling yourself.
    That is our only purpose now. Stay the course. Don’t let the liars disuade you. The sun is already rising on the day & nothing will be hidden or unclear. The trend is on your side, just believe it.

    They have amassed power and technology for a war with everybody outside of their own. They know that their prey don’t stand a chance and it has increased their arrogance to a point where they believe they are like gods.

    They are utterly oblivious to the power that waits for them, allowing them onto the stage to show the long awaited moment to us all.

    When the moment is unleashed, we will see that the revelation will be complete. The controllers’ authority will be ended in that shocking moment.

    I hope we live long enough to see it.

  • ful_karboy September 11, 2010, 8:25 am

    “I must qualify; the People who reside in this forum are not zipper people. ”

    Maybe not but most of you have too much time on your hands and need to get out more ;>) Any system made by humans will be exploited and while it’s hard not to agree that the American people have let things get out of hand, I’ve been hearing this imminent crash stuff for almost 50 years now. Still, as the famous quote states: “A democracy cannot survive as a permanent form of government. It can last only until its citizens discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority (who vote) will vote for those candidates promising the greatest benefits from the public purse ”

    Time to move back towards the Constitution…

    • redwilldanaher September 13, 2010, 4:19 pm

      We didn’t have a crash? We had one in all the major market indices. We also had a housing price crash. If it weren’t for unprecedented lying, cheating and rules changing and hyper manipulation and… the indices would be much lower. You’ve been hearing about it for fifty years and will all due respect you seem to suggest it hasn’t happened. Sorry friend but the American Dream and lifestyle has crashed. The societal standards have crashed. The culture, if there ever was one, has crashed. You seem to be tantalized by levitating index prices maintained by the manipulation cartel. You seem not to adjust for inflation and thus you’re not accounting for the last 50 years of erosion in this country. 1960 a good blue collar job supported a family fairly well. 2010… well… It’s all good right?

    • ful_karboy September 14, 2010, 3:57 am

      To Red Will.

      By “Crash” I was refering to society collapsing not the temporary market drops like 87 or even the popping of mania bubbles like Nasdaq and recently housing. I’d bet that the stock market and the economy would be doing better IF folks had been “allowed” to invest some of THEIR SS retirement money in broad funds. Then “the workers” would “own” the “means of production”. {as my marxist friends call for. All or whom won’t start decent sized businesses of their own but that’s another story} Perhaps the reasons the Lib Left demonized that idea was because the “workers” MIGHT start voting like “owners” {pro-business} and stray from the plantation? Now, having little use for a wealth redistribution bureaucracy that eats up vast sums then “tinkles down” the remainder to buy votes.

      Systems will be exploited by cunning people ESPECIALLY if they perceive themselves to be getting exploited by the system. {Or are taught that in Lib run schools and colleges AND taught to proslytize it to gain votes} In the EU, friends tell me the bureaucracies are even worse. Perhaps that’s why they prefer to live here. More freedom, less taxes etc.

      “The societal standards have crashed.”

      A certain result of being forcefed Gramscian/Liberal idiology. Strong families and Churches were always obstacles to dependence on “the state”.

      “You seem to be tantalized by levitating index prices maintained by the manipulation cartel. ”

      Not really, but goldstocks “levitating” {and crashing at times} have paid the bills for many years now. If you would like to assume that’s a “vote of no conficence” in our “fearless leaders”, go ahead!

      “1960 a good blue collar job supported a family fairly well. 2010… well… It’s all good right?”

      Houses were smaller then and so was government at all levels. Perhaps there were fewer lawyers, “community activists” and handouts of all kinds?

      I have no control over what other people do and did NOT vote for limousine liberals from academia with little or no business or “real world” experience, but life out in the country goes on regardless and those who live simply, can simply live… well.

    • redwilldanaher September 14, 2010, 4:44 am

      “By “Crash” I was refering to society collapsing not the temporary market drops…”

      The market drops are actually longer in duration than what I would call temporary. Factor in real inflation and it’s even worse. Look at the Nasdaq Comp. and the DOW vs. their all time highs.

      I’d bet that the stock market and the economy would be doing better IF folks had been “allowed” to invest some of THEIR SS retirement money in broad funds. Then “the workers” would “own” the “means of production”. {as my marxist friends call for. All or whom won’t start decent sized businesses of their own but that’s another story} Perhaps the reasons the Lib Left demonized that idea was because the “workers” MIGHT start voting like “owners” {pro-business} and stray from the plantation? Now, having little use for a wealth redistribution bureaucracy that eats up vast sums then “tinkles down” the remainder to buy votes.

      I’m happy that the average person hasn’t invested in the grand fraud that is the world stock markets. I regret that their income is confiscated from them for “social security” which is just another fraud.

      As for most of your other points I agree. Fortunately I’ve had some modest success in the metals and miners over the past decade myself.

      I don’t disagree with your housing comment and the others entirely but there are plenty of people that weren’t foolish enough to overpay for a mcmansion and are living in row homes that have been in their family for generations.

      I’m with you again on your closing comments and back to the country is where I’d like to head but I have a feeling that whatever “shire” we happen to reside in it is likely that it won’t go overlooked forever once they start dispensing the soylent green in the urban zones. That’s why I don’t believe that these problems are merely someone else’s problems. Trouble will find you.

  • Joe September 11, 2010, 7:48 am

    If anyone is thinking they don’t have long term plans, please read about the Georgia Guide Stones.

    “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.”

    We can voluntarily opt out. Switch from banks to credit unions. Carry dollar coins instead of federal reserve notes. Barter with silver eagle coins. Buy organic. Grow a few tomato plants.

    • redwilldanaher September 13, 2010, 4:56 pm

      Thanks Joe. There’s a lot of information that’s available. It’s all out there in plain sight and people need just look at it. Exactly what’s going on? What’s next? When will it start? NO REAL CLUE. But, something is most definitely going on.

  • Steve September 11, 2010, 6:55 am


    It is now late and I have returned to the thread. No one may read this, but; I hope you find these words.

    Thank You !

  • dogismsyth September 11, 2010, 6:52 am

    well Rick…you are not alone. Unfortunately for you and others, too much time is spent trying to win in the “markets”. Of course its manipulated. Of course its not fair. Of course there is a small group of insiders would benefit greatly. I’m not an option trader but I certainly can see the manipulation. I really believe the markets are designed (more so today) as a “wealth transfer” machine. Nothing more. Most of the science and analysis associated with market timing is time-consuming, unreliable and discouraging since hard work rarely leads to success.

    The travesty is the millions, if not billions, of hours spent analyzing market data whether by the professional or the newly acquainted. Talk about an unproductive society. Its called opportunity cost. And productivity loss associated with market traders and their zeal to win in a rigged contest really does “take the cake”. Surely you must realize this.

    And each trader is simply trying to take money from another less fortunate person. That’s the goal of the game. Its a ridiculous game, unproductive and contributes absolutely NOTHING to society. But that’s the conceptual paradigm you and other live in. Too bad for you. I liken it to a dog chasing a rabbit off a cliff. No different in my mind.

    People act like such zombies and cynicism only leads to more negative thinking. The people hold the power to everything. You want to stop the big (primary dealer) banks…pull your accounts including retirement, savings, checking, credit card, etc. Don’t take loans from them. Same with the big national and international companies like Walmart. Don’t shop there. Educate your communities as to the harm they bring. Need I regurgitate all the negatives brought by big banks and big corporations. They have only one motive…profit. Kinda like traders :>] Its a sickness ya know. You and others continue the game and the corruption by engaging daily in this game. Stop playing the game. Separate yourself from this faux existence. Is it really healthy?

    There is so much more to life than the trivial crap we are committed to due to our indoctrination. Ever heard of the saying….”get a life”? Maybe you should.

    So, I’m not sure why you’re so cynical and despondent. My guess is you lost some big money and are blaming the system. I’ve been there. I’ve lost a lot. But I only blame myself.

    Be free. Rid yourself of the parasites. It is only you and others that play the game that forestall our bright and adventurous future. Do it for kids.

    Here’s a saying I read on a blog tonight.

    It is living the change on a mass scale that will create the new level of consciousness needed to solve the problems created by our corrupt corporate-government.

    Start living Rick. To hell with their system. Let it crash.


    You should take a free seven-day trial to Rick’s Picks (available on the home page), since you are evidently clueless about what goes on behind the paid-subscriber wall. We’re having FUN most every day, Dogis, because the game is so easy to beat. RA

    • jj September 11, 2010, 11:30 pm

      dogismsyth, I’d say we who have the talent to make a profit trading whatever do have a life, a life that doesn’t depend on any hand- outs to provide financial security for our families, and if you think its easy well than you know “0”…..

      There is nothing sweeter than beating those that control the markets and owning gold bullion since $345 puts a rather LARGE smile on my face knowing I beat the banksters at their own game!

      I like to deal in reality and if that takes hours of study in what I trade than so be it, as again the financial well being my family has gained from my hours of study ultimately means the likes of you will never need to support me and my family….

      Your welcome!!!!

    • redwilldanaher September 13, 2010, 5:17 pm

      dogismyth, there are several things that you wrote that I’d take issue with but I don’t have to the time to take on them all. First of all, providing a market for hedgers isn’t taking advantage of a less fortunate person. Are life insurance companies taking advantage of people when they insure their families against loss of life? That’s how things work, a trade of sorts gets made. Capital for insurance. Naturally there is a cost associated with providing insurance. And NO, I have lost big money and I’m blaming the system but it’s great to know that your response is all about you. Other than my own trading and investing I’ve been focused on many other things for the last decade and not merely options trading. Maybe you should reread where I noted that I sensed that it was more than simple and timeless market manipulation. I’m not sure that you’d care but billions of your fellow man are being intentionally and systematically deceived on scales and levels that many of them have yet to conceive. It that OK with you? Many of us would like to their system crash so that matrix comes crashing down with it but something tells me they may have another iteration in store and won’t simply back their bags and catch a flight or ship to Brazil or Argentina this time.

  • gary leibowitz September 11, 2010, 5:02 am

    First we had the ocean floor breaking apart from the oil spill and now we have uncovered the truth about “Big Brother”.

    Over the top? All civilizations go thru this cycle of power and dominance. We are a baby culture that has been given growth enhancing steroids. We certainly have grown up in such a short time span.

    While it is most probably true that this nation subjugates its citizens to a degree, the real problem is our treatment of third world nations. In the past any screw-ups that backfired on us had minimal consequences. This is no longer true. Modern military warfare can be launched by anyone creating a world war with no survivors.

    So, will we end up destroying ourselves by our own hand? Will nature, such as an asteriod do it for us? In a biblical sense we should be nearing the “rapture”, particularly when you look at how close science has unraveling all “hidden” means to become god-like. The breakthroughs in decoding the brains function will be complete in our generation.

    On that cheery note I bid you a peaceful sleep.

    • redwilldanaher September 11, 2010, 6:02 am

      Gary, with all due respect I believe you argued about a month ago something to the effect that the past 20 years weren’t based upon fraud in any way. I may be confusing you with someone else and if so I apologize but if not I’d respectfully ask for a clarification of your position at this point. I never claimed to uncover the truth about big brother but merely fragments. Most of the folks that replied seem to be in agreement with my contentions on that. I feel compelled to point out that it’s not very easy to separate the subjugation you mention from the MIC imperialism and nation building after bloody yet highly profitable conflicts. If the people weren’t as subjected as they are and thus oblivious it wouldn’t be as matter-of-doing-business easy to distract them from what you’re rightfully objecting too. Without the control of the MSM it wouldn’t be nearly as easy to keep the machine well-oiled either. For me they are clearly intertwined. Do this for me though, please explain how there wasn’t any fraud in relation to just one area: The Ratings Agencies…

    • gary leibowitz September 13, 2010, 6:16 pm


      Sorry for the rant not being explained more fully. I never said there was not manipulation just the fact that market forces will always correct regardless, or in spite of manipulation.

      I do not dispute your findings, just dispute the “affectivenss” of fighting windmills. There is no solution or even a defined path to fight this injustice.

      Sorry if my capitulation is disheartening.

    • redwilldanaher September 13, 2010, 10:00 pm

      I hear you and largely agree. Thanks for the clarification. 15 years ago I would have argued that we have to try to fight the windmills from what I’ve seen if you tried to you would effectively be turning yourself into the secret police. I’m not trying to fight them at all and haven’t been for some time. I’m trying to extricate my family, friends, and others that are like-minded from the end game. With just what has happened in the past 6 weeks and especially in September thus far I can see them at work. Much of what we have witnessed in mark up over the past 16 months has been described as 11 standard deviation occurrence. That’s one reason that I’ve lost the ability to try to discuss manipulation with people. They seem happy to argue that it doesn’t exist and relatively simple math essentially proves that it does. And that’s obviously only from what’s observable…

  • mikeck September 11, 2010, 1:28 am

    Wayne and Rick,

    Way off topic, but wondering if either of you ever heard of the Blueberry Festival in Hammonton? I lived there from 73 to 99 fighting off the Jersey Devil. ;-]

    • redwilldanaher September 13, 2010, 5:02 pm

      Hammonton as in the Blueberry Capital? Actually those blueberries are excellent. I left NJ a while ago and kick it every chance I get because of what it has become but some of the stuff like the blueberries and Silver Queen Corn is top notch. Actually Hammonton is almost half way between where I lived and Rick was at in AC. To my knowledge great pies and a great breakfast can still be had nearby on 206 at the Red Barn Cafe in case you have the misfortune to have to visit what was once the Garden State.

  • RTS September 10, 2010, 11:08 pm


    I must agree on every point. C.A. Fitts was a shining light amidst the perpetual night of backwards conspiracy theories juxtaposed against mainstream falsehoods. Her analyses and experiences have yielded what I’ve found to be the most erudite assessment of the “powers that be” and their control mechanisms. While many other authors have attempted to remove the veil, revealing the framework of the matrix, she does so with ample verifiable evidence. I feel fortunate to have uncovered as much truth as I have at this young age, but the options available to middle class youth such as myself are extraordinarily limited. I have convinced many of my peers that we’re on a sinking ship, but they realize as I have that there are no lifeboats left; I imagine that too is by design.

  • jj September 10, 2010, 6:51 pm

    If peaceful uprise against whats really going on in the US turns violent the govies are ready, hope orange is your favorite colour.

    • Steve September 11, 2010, 7:28 am

      A special tactics team can whip 1 individual. A special tactics team can whip 10 individuals concentrated in one place.

      Joe Sixpac thinks he is free, and he will watch Waco, or Ruby Ridge and do nothing as long as propaganda works, and it does work.

      Madison is quoted in the Federalist Papers, something like this ‘Why fear a strong federal government, when at a moments notice the People can bring forth 500,000 armed men.’ Those Men knew Liberty. Only a few in America today have ever lived in Liberty for more than a few seconds, and at that, only in the toilet.

      Alone, with no influence except the call of Nature, at Liberty to crap with little fear, except the obligation of spraying lilac to cover reality, as the loss of liberty comes with the knowledge the door must be unlocked again.

  • C. Session September 10, 2010, 5:45 pm

    The original post and many of the comments are the most powerful thing that I have read on the net in a long while. The information is very troubling, but it is reassuring to know that others share my feelings about the problems. I only have 2 or 3 friends that share these beliefs and understand that voting for the “lesser of 2 evils” will never fix this. I totally agree that the Fed Gov’t is not fixable, and there is nothing left to salvage. Armed resistance is not required. All that we need is a little peaceful secession. How about Ron Paul for President of the Republic of Texas or the Conch Republic. (2 of my favorite places) Can you imagine how quickly the real estate slump would be over, in the 1st state that secedes?

    I have been voting Libertarian for 25 years, and the problems have gotten worse than I could have imagined. John Roberts, a Harvard educated, Supreme Court justice with a Federal Pension, calls our form of Gov’t a constitutional democracy instead of a Republic. There is little hope that these problems will be fixed by the Judicial branch of the gov’t.

    We need some Peaceful Nullification and Secession. This will let all those people that believe that gov’t is the solution instead of the problem, reap what they sow.

    • Steve September 11, 2010, 6:48 am

      Roberts tells the truth about the current governmental form as a democracy, corporate in nature. Read the latest gun case and see the word “Experiment”, state experiments over and over, especially from justice Thomas.

      If one brings a slave question under the 14th amendment, the constitution does not play into the case, only Roman Civil Law, and Master Servant Law.

      The matter is the person bringing the wrong jurisdiction in time, plane, and space and then getting upset that the court recognizes the enfranchisement in private contract.

  • Steve September 10, 2010, 5:24 pm

    I have spent nearly, actually over, 30 years in peaceful resistance, and I am still engaged in peaceful resistance in the courts, on the telephone, and in forums. I remain at Peace. Yet, the beast of rebellion in both the people, and the government cannot be quenched by facts or truth. The government form does not care about Law, though ‘order’ is upmost in importance. The ‘federal union of states’ is a war monger domestically, and non-domestically having declared war on all Freedom, and Free Men. The magic “They” openly declare their causa bella, or WAR intentions under International Symbols and Seals that are deemed stronger that the spoken word. Talk to the dept of State in regard to why Obama, or Bush do not fly the gold eagle, gold silks, gold cord, gold fringe Internationally. Read the Veterans of Foreign Wars materials on ‘flags’, and read 4 United States Statute I on what constitutes the civil flag of Peace. It appears I am at Peace, and the masses are at war because the masses agree by assent to the rebellion and crimes of the government’s domestic War. The battle field on the Americas is very very old, and littered with patriots who now fall as individuals, instead as united Men. The battle field waged against the People, and States is 133 years old, and still the Senate wages WAR against us. The senate tells everyone, can YOU hear ?

    Old Hippy Talk – If you are not actively against it, you are for it.

    You speak as if there is no overt act of causa bella, and that the record does not reflect, even today, that the system is a military one of aggression. Even in the face of military rebellion by the federal union of states one should never resort to force except as a last resort in defending one’s Rights. Today, inaction supports violation of Federal Law, violation of International Law, violation of Protocols, violation of Treaty, and violation of every agreement made for Peace – this is what the people support and believe in. I do not know what Tom does to find Peace for the Nation because all I see in this writing is FAILURE TALK. Has all TALK BEEN EXHAUSTED and every Peaceful effort made to stop the causa bella of the congress in rebellion ? NO ! The masses take care of themselves and refuse to be ready to defend the Nation as required to be a Citizen; (United States Statute I).

    I do not want to fight, only to be left at Peace; me minding my own business as I subsist on my Allodial Land in Freedom. I have not come in military aggression, but now; I am forced to Sojourn though a war torn nation where most persons support the military aggression of the Senate Rebellion by their assent in doing nothing.

    I have fought Tom, and I have lost my blood, my fortune, and my life to the war acts of congress and persons. I more than any know what damage is coming, and I have fought to keep and find Peace for all so that no one might feel the pain of armed conflict. I have my sacred Honor Tom, and when they come for me I will try to be HONOR. They have come against all possessions that could be called mine. Some day they will come for me. And some day they will come for them, and some day they will come for you Tom, and I will not be there to defend the People as I have. I am old and gray, and I am weary of Blowing the Shofur to those who do not want the facts. I do not want to fight. I do not want to hurt. I do not want to die. I understand death and bleeding.

    Have the People given their fortunes, and sacred Honor to Peace for the united, or several States ? NO, NO, NO, NO. Everyone would just rather be a debtor in 10,000 ftsq that is owned by the federal government, and whine that CHANGE cannot be done. There is an adage that may, or may not be true about Defending Rights. 3% do something. 33% believe in the 3%. 33% will go whatever direction wins. 33% are against the 3%.

    It is shear ignorance to ignore the facts, to fail to listen to the experts, to fail to understand the current beast of imperial aggression that persons have become because they agree with murder and outlawry by not doing anything as they watch the federal union of states ravage via illegitimate wars.

    I ask for nothing but Peace. I respect the Individual Rights of men, and have defended same with my blood. I believe in the Law, assault, breach, fraud, theft, and trespass as legitimate Laws, superior to legislative/executive/judicial abuse.

    The time for armed defense is not upon the people yet only because the people would rather be given the benefits of slavery, than stand for Right. One should know that by looking at the reflection of outlawry that is the legislative/executive/judicial abuse of democracy today. O’bama’s views are a reflection of the masses’ sin against Peace.

    I am going to try and keep this thread alive in Rick’s Forum whenever it is appropriate to comment on politics instead of market.

    I must go right now, but; when I return I am going to address “Flight”, and “Fight” as the two most basic elements of animal behavior. Those of you have understand know that the animal spirits I speak of also drive the markets. So for now –

    See ya !

    Oh ! No bully stops unless there is a threat of force !

  • Tom Paine September 10, 2010, 3:15 pm

    I am always a bit concerned by those who seem to be advocating armed resistance. What I see is that has almost 0% chance of success. First, you will most likely be stopped and incarcerated before ever having a chance to act. Then, if violent resistance is attempted, it will likey be squashed quickly. Finally, if “succesful”, which I give about a .1% chance of happening, where will it lead? Probably to warlordism, and would that be a good outcome? All armed resistance would do is give “them” a chance to impose a thorough going military dictatorship.

    Only peaceful resistance has any chance of bringing about a positive change. I only give that a slightly better chance of success, like maybe 2%, but I’ll take that 2% chance over the near certainty that widespread violent resistance would lead to absolutely no good end.

    • Howg September 10, 2010, 4:36 pm

      Thought this post would be dead by now, but folks are still commenting…

      Tom Paine, there are many things we can do even short of peaceful resistance; e.g. stop buying name brands, soft drinks, processed / gmo / chemically grown food, pharmaceuticals… I’m a smoker, but I only buy loose tobacco in the market across the street, (I live in Bangkok). And last but not least, stop voting! So many things we can do that are legal & safe and actually, much healthier for our bodies & souls. And this is 100% pure democracy in action.

      If anyone commits to protest any of this with a coke in one hand (let alone a diet coke), and a big mac in the other, he is missing the whole point entirely.

      All to say… stop feeding the beast as best we can.

      I just read that over 50% of Americans are using pharmaceutical drugs routinely, so we are a long way off collectively. But this is something we can all do individually – perhaps the only thing we can do ??

    • redwilldanaher September 10, 2010, 5:12 pm

      Tom, Howg, thanks for making those great points. I enjoy reading the comments that you both leave in the forum. Tom, I arrived at the same regrettable conclusions that you did. The athlete and the man part of me would prefer that I take action and perhaps that’s driven by the id but when I stopped thinking selfishly about it I realized that there is but one moral/ethical way to approach this problem and it is not to remain in the matrix to fight on as they’d prefer that we do. It’s immoral to remain in the matrix with regards to posterity at the very least and therefore we really haven’t any choice but peaceful secession. My opinion is that anyone advocating anything other than peaceful extrication is making a severe misjudement regarding what is aligned against us. Aside from that it’s logistically impossible and that’s just a starting point of the criticism. Last thing, when it comes down to it and I “simmer down” I know that I’d never want to be involved in violence of any kind unless it’s an absolute must as in self or home defense.

  • Edward Ulysses Cate September 10, 2010, 3:07 am

    Welcome to our world, Wayne. That was an excellent commentary. Catherine Fitts IS an excellent resource.
    Some folks call the manipulation cartel the Tapeworm; others call it the Octopus; and due to the old 1889 book, I call it the Great Red Dragon. It doesn’t matter what’s its name, the only way to win is not to play. Truly understanding gold is taking the red pill (from the Matrix). You will know the truth, but you certainly may not like what you learn. And the radical dollar bugs certainly don’t want you to find out.

  • ebear September 9, 2010, 9:27 pm

    This has been going on for a very long time.


    • redwilldanaher September 10, 2010, 2:09 am

      I concur ebear. Thanks for what looks like will be very interesting reading material. I think that many of us acknowledge that it manipulation has and will always be with us. From what I can tell though it’s never been more pervasive and professionally executed than at present.

  • fallingman September 9, 2010, 8:51 pm

    Thanks for being bold and telling it like it is. It’s encouraging to read this article and these posts and know that some folks get it.

    My sense is that a rapidly growing percentage of the population is starting to get it…maybe 1-2%. It’s still very small, but most people are ballast in political terms. It take no more than 15% and maybe as little as 5% to lead the way and shake things up.

    I’m all for secession in any form, whether that’s by states seceding from the forcibly united states or by individuals who simply withdraw their consent and support for the government. My shoulders are gettin’ tired. Time to shrug. It’s the least we can do.

    Loved the Zappa quote, Howg. That’s a keeper. And thanks to Mo for grounding the problem we face in Milgram’s terms … the default is to obey the sociopaths in the white coats or black robes or military uniforms…or the shill in the anchor man’s mask.

    • redwilldanaher September 10, 2010, 2:33 am

      Thanks FM, Rick was forced to edit a few snippets from the piece that I wrote due to its length. I’m going to comment about secession more if time permits but here’s the kernel for me with respect to secession. It’s the same as in any relationship or especially a negotiation. If you’re not willing to leave the table without a deal then they have you and both parties know it. It’s really that simple. If the threat of secession isn’t there then there will be no negotiations of real value. If you don’t like that analogy then let’s go with the “bully” stereotype. We all know that there is only 1 way to handle the bully. And that’s the real problem. The bully hasn’t been pushed back for far too long. Isn’t that obvious?

    • Steve September 10, 2010, 4:43 am

      Texas v. White is the ultimate secession case relied on by the boyz to say it cannot be done. Carol wrote an excellent piece on corporatism and the U.S. in this forum. The Declaration, and Oregon State constitution of 1859 advise that the government may be abolished by the People. ABOLISHED

      The Individual can leave the mobocracy any time he wishes (Title 8 United States Code), or the Individual can exercise Liberty against the oppressor individuals, as the supreme Court indicated in The State of Georgia v. Stanton sec. of War 73 U.S. 50 (1867)

      The premise of the “Fiction” (noted above) is that the created cannot abolish the creator. In this case, since 1867 the creator is the congress, in rebellion, and the created is a federal subject citizenship that can be abolished by legislative act simply reversing the 14th amendment.

      The complexity of this discussion takes an extreme amount of room and time. Suffice it to say:

      A.D. 1775 – The Rights of Conquest
      A.D. 1776 – the unanimous Declaration of the States
      A.D. – the confederation of several States.
      A.D. 1787 all 13 state Constitutions ratified (equal footing clause, Article IV, Federal Constitution)
      A.D. 1787 signatories [Framers] created a Contract, ratified in 1791 by the states which became a Blind Contract for any private individual taking public trust office voluntarily.
      A.D. 1783 – Treaty of Peace – Mr. President Adams, Mr. Chief Justice John Jay, Mr. Benjamin Franklin: “In the Name of the Most Holy and Undivided Trinity” – ‘the authority’ to bring peace to the united States.
      A.D. 1861 – several States object to the rebellion of the Northern Congress (several States claim the Northern States rebelled destroying the Constitution of 1787)
      A.D. 1865 – Mr. President Lincoln pardons the several States under Article II, sec. 2, Const.
      A.D. 1865 – congress impeaches Johnson when he refuses to commit treason via the 14th amendment.
      A.D. 1867 – the Senate in full rebellion and treasonous designs refuses to seat the several Southern Senators who were seated in 1866, in treasonous assault upon Lincoln’s Article II, sec. 2 Pardon of the several States.
      A.D. 1867 the Senate in Northern Rebellion legislate the Reconstruction Acts of 1867 forcing the several Southern States to ratify the 14th, and new territorial constitutions.
      A.D. 1867 – the Reconstruction acts create a new military paradigm of military voters registered under Stanton sec. of War, to advise the administrative president.
      A.D. 1868 Philander Knoxx certifies the the ratification of the 14th amendment even though Oregon did not ratify until 1973, and several states never ratified.
      A.D. 1868 – the courts hold that the 14th amendment is a ‘political act’ over which they have no jurisdiction, as well is the ratification by Knox. All the military persons voters [not Sovereign Electors] have to do is put in legislators to remove the 14th amendment’s Africanising the territory with all equal in slavery.

      A.D. 1872 congress creates, under corporate power of the district, Washington City, a foreign corporation 28 U.S.C. 3002(15) called UNITED STATES [there are no less than 4 definitions of the words united States/United States/united States of America] because the Africans were released from Master/servant Law of the Private Individual, and could not claim the Original Constitution. Congress created a new corporate enfranchisee ‘i’mmunity Slave law [similar to Original Unalienable Rights] for Africans who’s domicile is the district, and who reside to business over the several States territorially (Buck Act) Congress is not prohibited from slavery by Article of Amendment XIII because they have exclusive Rights in the district, and territories, Article IV, sec. 3, cls. 2, Article I, sec. 8, cls. 17.

      The boyz now have you. Article of Amendment XIII does not prohibit ‘voluntary’ slavery, only involuntary slavery. Use of a benefit creates corporate enfranchising debt, creating Trust, with the legislator/executive the Trustee.

      Most volunteer to take the benefits of the congress by admitting to a Fee [simple absolute] Deed that they are not jus Soli, and have no right to inherit, thus; the states become the Lord of Lands under Escheats because no slave voluntary, or involuntary has a Right of Property.

      The supreme Court in The State of Georgia, supra, said that a State does not have standing to bring an action in regard to who the real state is. That no harm had been done because no one had yet registered to the voluntary military voter scheme. That only someone jus Soli, having a right to Soil could bring the claim. The ‘Equity’ was not the proper jurisdiction. That most likely a writ “Quo Warranto” should have been pursued to compel the president to protect the original Constitution for Georgia. And, that if the real State was under attack, then in fact the real state would fight the supplanting force by bearing arms. That is, the People would fight to the death to protect the Original Fiction State.

      Since 1867 the congress has abused the Commerce Clause to take police powers not authorized to it, and to allege corporate enfranchisee character via Roman Civil Law, instead of American Law.

      1934 F.D.R. threatened the supreme Court with nomination of 21 justices to overcome the 9 seated. The court said ‘We shall hold the Constitution in Trust until such time as the People tire of this experiment in democracy’.

      1934 Erie Railroad Doctrine – the word ‘person’ is presumed to mean a corporation, where before the word person was assumed to be an Unenfranchised Naturally Born Man. Today one may still be Naturally Born, but; presumed enfranchised.
      1936 Clearfield Trust Doctrine – use of a Thing, creates a debt, which = Trust. (Roman Civil Law adhesion contract). Corporate persons are beneficiaries of the acts of congress creating them legislatively.
      1938 – Ashwander v. Tenn Vly Auth. Doctrine – beneficiary cannot raise constitutional question against benefactor while in receipt of benefit.
      2009 – Wermuth D.O.J. alleges that breathing clean air under the Clean Air Acts is an act of corporate enfranchisement.

      Testicular Fortitude !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is lacking.

  • mikeck September 9, 2010, 8:38 pm

    Thank you Rick for allowing Wayne to express so well what so many of us are coming to realize. Below is a link to something I was sent yesterday…I’m still digesting it because I never totally dismiss anything anymore.
    Or you can go to the below link and chose the video or MP3 option, scroll down to Alex Collier.


    • redwilldanaher September 10, 2010, 2:26 am

      Mike thanks for your comments and links. I’ll surely check them out. I really like this “…because I never totally dismiss anything anymore.” That’s exactly how I’ve felt for a long time. I think that it’s critical for more people to adopt this attitude during these times and for a change I sense a positive trend at least in this matter.

  • mario cavolo September 9, 2010, 7:51 pm

    Fabulous and deep….Middle class Americans are undoubtedly now the group facing the reality of the tyranny of the elitists, the tyranny of its government and rich in collusion and it has come about in such a convoluted and nasty way, as if to make it seem “ok”, which of course, it is not.

    Sad, very sad it is not the America my parents were born in on the hopes and dreams of their parents, to come to America for a better life, for the American Dream…sad, damn said….

    And no…I moved on to China, but it is only by happenstance that I did, not intent, and it is only by timing and happenstance that China is rising now ladies and gents, I did not ask for what is happening in the world today. I can only respond and I have no illusions that as the Europeans moved on to the American Dream that the world will now further move on to the China Dream, as China has no such interests to extend such a warm, fuzzy hand of freedom to others…

    Cheers in these times, Mario

    Cheers, Mario

  • walter fields September 9, 2010, 6:22 pm

    Who attends a Save the Unicorns rally? The U S doesn’t
    exist. It’s an absolute fiction. Of course millions die
    for fiction every year. As the great Dr. Nietzsche ob-
    served, the most difficult thing for a person to recognize
    is a FACT. We are at war with a military-industrial-theo-
    logical complex. Excellent work, Walter Fields

    • Steve September 9, 2010, 9:54 pm

      As is the state a Fiction.
      As is every city a Fiction.
      As is every corporation a Fiction.
      As does the SSN create a Fiction/trust.
      As does ‘use’ create a Fiction.
      As is assent to voluntary slavery by ‘use’ of federal reserve notes a ‘fiction’, an artful creation like something real.
      As does the acts/actions of persons create a fiction, for no one sheds their blood for their State, accepting the reality of dialectic truth just plain ole’ sucks.

      The ordinances of the ‘house’, Private Family Law is a fiction.

      It may be that only individual anarchy does not operate by some form of fiction because all governmental forms are ‘fictions’.

      All writing is a fiction because there is no way to convey the waves of my brain to your brain. All communication falls short of my individual understanding ‘reality’. Try as I might, I cannot get joesixpac to get it. Too narrow minded – OK !

      To deny the powers of a de Facto governmental form because it is a ‘fiction’ can be a fatal mistake. All deFacto powers legitimately practice the art, and are required to defend others from assaults, breach, fraud, theft, and trespass – deemed actions against the Peace and Dignity of the State. The deFacto state is not required to defend individual rights as the deJure State is.

      Tell the fiction they are not real when you are face down in the mud with the heel in your back.

      A more correct question might be, what Public Right has been taken from you ? There, there might exist a justificable(old spelling) controversy to artfully create a claim.

    • redwilldanaher September 10, 2010, 2:37 am

      Great points Walter, thank you. I think that Paul Craig Roberts would wholeheartedly agree with “… the most difficult thing fore a person…” at this point which is very sad especially because he’d add “even if it is right before their own eyes” or something to that effect.

  • David Lynch September 9, 2010, 4:54 pm

    Thank you for your well reasoned article. The dots are difficult to connect by design. They overwhelm the system, making it nearly impossible to react and plan for your family quickly enough to get out of the way of the ongoing financial train wreck. Thanks for your boldness, this discussion does not bode well with most people.

    • redwilldanaher September 10, 2010, 2:43 am

      Thank you for your comments. Love your work, especially The Elephant Man and the casting of Sherilyn Fenn in Twin Peaks. Your points are important and dead on in my opinion. As an outsider our best chance is to piece together mere fragments and the rest will always be conjecture unless we decentralize the power structure.

  • Ryan Mastro September 9, 2010, 4:44 pm

    Wayne, as always, another great expose explaining the details of what they have done. Over the past several years, as I have followed on this path with you, and I must say I give you credit for staying the course. I can no longer watch the talking heads on CNBC, because they all spout the same thing. When the producers whisper into the guests ear they are getting too bearish then there is clearly a problem. (Told to me by a commentator last year!)
    I also wanted to comment on your secession argument. I think the more that Rick’s readers look around and see the police and debtor state that we have become and the path and time it would take to remove all of the manipulation from this country would be insurmountable. A comment from Benjamin on his support being denied based on the fact that we need to fight against tyranny by peace or sword is very narrow minded to the grand scale of the problem. Every facet of our lives is touched upon by government that is out of control. To convert the mindless masses that are on the nipple of our government is impossible. This begs the question of what are you looking to save?

    To hit home the point, look at what Gov. Christie is facing in good ole NJ. Trying to cut spending that has been out of control for decades is next to impossible. He is getting fought at every level of government and by every union. Even stand up politicians from both sides of the aisle have to fight for state support because they are used to being hand fed by the state. Please show me a city, county, or state that takes no support from the level above. It does not exist. Each level would be stupid not to take the money offered to them since their citizens pay their taxes for that reason. It is their fair share. This is one of the many problems that exist in our government that is simple too large to do anything about. Trying to fix local, county, state will be a battle. Any state that is getting less money than they put into the Federal government should demand the immediate end to redistribution of wealth. Why should New Mexico get $3.5 for every Dollar they put into the Fed compared to NJ who only receives back $0.7 of every Dollar. Are NM citizens more needy than NJ citizens? No, NJ residents just make more money than NM residents. This does not give the right of the Federal government to grant one state more money than another.
    Time would be better spent setting up a the exit path and systems to put into place than fighting to save a failed government. Pride can not pay our national debt. People who want to live beyond their means have their rights.
    The Pension Ponzi system that was created long before I was born has bankrupted this country. The system I refer to includes the typical pensions: where people expect to be paid for the remaining 1/3rd of their life for the work they have done in the previous 2/3rds. It also includes the broken social security and medicare pension systems. They are built on the same Ponzi scheme that Madoff was busted for. Taking money from the new to pay for the old. The system breaks down when the old want more than the new can provide. Guess what? We are there. Why is it that our government still offers pensions? Why do private sector workers have to pay for their own retirement? It is because corporations learned a long time ago that they can not keep the Ponzi scheme going and they would have faced massive lawsuits too!
    How long can our Federal Government keep the curtains up so the general public doesn’t have a clue? My guess is a long time.
    They have managed to openly destroy our Dollar value by 95% in front of our faces and we have done nothing about it. They have systematically underpaid our senior citizens their just Social Security Ponzi payout through understating real inflation for decades. (Payouts are inflation adjusted, if the dollar is crushed by 95%, shouldn’t inflation be adjusted higher.)
    Our government is openly trying to prop up free markets to continue to try to create more bubbles to maintain the power controls at status quo. Tax Dollars should not be used to bailout any industry. If that industry can not adapt to the market, then a nimbler more cost effective competitor will. Where one company fails, another will rise from the ashes.

    This country was built on pride and hard work and we were forced down a path once income tax was instituted. Once a government gets their hands on tax money they will not return it. It is like the budget in corporation, if you don’t use it, you won’t get as much next year. Government on the other hand will use force to collect it.
    The time to fight the tyranny was when they instituted income taxes, social security, and medicare, Obama’s health plan. Obviously, government wants their sheeple to depend on them so they can continue to grow. At what point does this government stop over spending?
    Pretty soon we will all work for the government.
    What happened to the government being created to service the people not the people servicing the government. The government and the leeches that depend on the government handouts need the 1/3 of the population that pay taxes to keep on paying. They just keep on spending but at some point their credit will be cut off. I do not want to be in their system and pay their debts when the credit is cut off!

    I for one, would join you Wayne in the peaceful movement to create a better place for my children where they will not be a debt slave to our government.

    There is no point in wasting decades to change this system, but we have to stand up to our bully government who is demanding more of our tax dollars because they are overspending. The 1st rule of any negotiating is to have the ability to walk away.

    Wayne thanks for great post!
    Rick thanks for creating forum for open minded readers!

    • Robert September 9, 2010, 8:30 pm

      “I for one, would join you Wayne in the peaceful movement to create a better place for my children where they will not be a debt slave to our government.”

      As will I.

      Call me crazy, but I beleive that the greatest lesson I will pass on to my kids will be that forever and always, on every job with any US company that they will ever hold over their entire lives, that they should write nothing in any box on their W-4 statements, except the word “EXEMPT” in box 7.

      By not entering the “voluntary” system, they will never be subject to the oppression of that system.

      A crummy 1500 per month in Social “Security” is not worth it… not by a long shot.

  • BENK September 9, 2010, 4:20 pm

    My life’s experiences in the workforce (40+ years) have been in manufacturing & construction. 30+ years having built & owned 2 construction companies. My “journey in search of truth” have been similar to Wayne’s, and I have come to almost the identical conclusions (about 10 years ago) using a different sources. I believe Wayne’s conclusions, as bleak as they sound, are as close to reality as any that are being proffered today. Thanks Rick for having the courage to allow Wayne to express his views in your forum.
    Ben K

    • redwilldanaher September 10, 2010, 4:53 pm

      Benk, thanks for taking the time to comment and for your support. As I stated in the article, I don’t profess to know exactly what is going on and I’m a big believer in the “more brains that are burning wood” theory so I welcome the input from all that are genuinely concerned with extricating ourselves from the matrix that’s been erected around us.

  • BDTR September 9, 2010, 4:20 pm

    A raging bull for nostalgia these days. Outside of the metals, it’s my only other active investment market. Got me to thinking about shooting pool and drinking boilers at Joe Pops, fishing out of Barnegat and all that reminiscence worth the read itself. Length notwithstanding, a genuinely reflective warning well worth the heeding, Will.

    Rick keeps pulling these arrows out of his quiver and,… another bulls eye.

  • Steve September 9, 2010, 4:17 pm

    A simple question that seems to silence all. What have we gained in the last 60 years ?

    1950 I was born with no debt – 2010 a child born today has 400,000 in forced loans after every asset is sold.

    1950 I was at Liberty to inherit by Covenant of Abraham, 2010 under the Law of Escheats I am incompetent to inherit.

    1950 I could hold allodial title jus Soli, 2010, today; I am in fee – which is defined as feudal by every source.

    1950 the Federal government was mostly inferior, today 2010 the federal union of states is superior Creator.

    1950 people came to the Nation asking what they could give and how they could become a part of society; 2010 illegals come saying GIVE for I will TAKE of a country and give back to where I came from.

    1950 people got in trouble and private charity gave a helping hand, as did family; 2010 Public Welfare is a generation to generation occupation with no end in sight.

    1950 People were at Liberty, 2010 persons operate under a perception of – add your own word – “________”.

    1950 the office of President was mostly subservient to persons, 2010 the office of president is a feudal monarchy, the Supreme Lord of Lands, in succession best described by Bush 41 how many 1000 times “New Order”.

    1950 I was “quickened” in a Republic with Immunity and Privilege at Liberty, 2010 I am born within a democracy with legislatively created privilege similar to Unalienable Rights.

    60 years has brought nothing in the way of real gain, nor has mankind become ‘better’ for it. (I speak of social morality, not; internet speed to greed) I must agree that corporate U.S. is littered with a history of bigotry, butchery, trespass, unwarranted aggression, and abuses including the genocides stated, but; not quoted by their Titles like Sand Creek, Wounded Knee, The Missouri Small Pox genocide for commerce, the violent overthrow of Hawaii by mercenaries supported by the U.S. Marines 1897, newsman “Manifest Destiny” 1843, the dicing and slicing of the Arab lands, installing of puppet governments in foreign lands, this list ends in the tyrannical overthrow of Liberty by “Powers” and “Principalities” alluded to in the above articles, but; not expressed completely enough for understanding.

    What remains is Liberty to oppose oppression of tyrannical designs. The only question is the testicular fortitude to do anything. (I did not say Liberty for someone else to pay the price, but; Liberty to choose to die for the Greater Good). “Powers” think long term generational, we think no further than our zippers as a people.

    I must qualify; the People who reside in this forum are not zipper people. The problem rests with the rest. How does one get the masses to understand before blind eating of propaganda turns to violence ? This original article is great, and masterful. I understand, as do you who read and study and care. Yet, how does one expose the tyranny of the few who have been here for generations, who have planned for generations, and who are executing a plan of and for generations without the masses fear turning to uncontrollable anger in the streets?

    “They” understand fear turning to anger – do we understand ?

    • Robert September 9, 2010, 8:06 pm

      I think I’ll start by passing around your perfectly astounding set of observations, Steve….

      Let’s see if we can take it viral.

  • MO September 9, 2010, 3:25 pm

    catherine austin fitts says stop participating in THEIR system; check out her web site for her suggestions.

    why it’s so hard to STOP SUPPORTING the thieves at the top: The Milgram experiment on obedience to authority figures measured willingness participants to obey authority instructions that violated conscience.

    • Robert September 9, 2010, 8:01 pm

      Hey! great reference to Milgram, Mo.
      5 stars on that one.

      Milgram’s results were by-far one of the scariest things I read in college- and looking back, I think that knowledge was one of the “hidden pivots” that my own self-awareness and personal development shifted on.

  • JohnJay September 9, 2010, 2:41 pm

    Howg, that was a great Zappa quote!
    Here is another from Arthur Miller:
    “Few of us can easily surrender our belief that society must somehow make sense. The thought that The State has lost its mind and is punishing so many innocent people is intolerable. And so the evidence has to be internally denied.”– Arthur Miller playwright

  • Buster September 9, 2010, 2:26 pm

    So often I read people’s take on current events and feel disapointed & frustrated…not because of the events but because so few people actually ‘get it’.
    Not so today. Thankyou all.
    The whole conspiracy is actually so big that when it is all revealed to the world, which it is destined to be, even the ‘conspiracy theorists’ will be shocked and awed at what crimes against humanity and the Earth have been commited.
    The rabbit hole goes so very deep.

    • redwilldanaher September 9, 2010, 5:28 pm

      Thanks Buster. That’s exactly what I was driving towards and why I referred to myself as an “incompetent cynic.”

  • Howg September 9, 2010, 12:52 pm

    ‘Twas ever thus, and ever ’twill be.

    Empires rise and fall. Each glorifies war, militarism, and imperialism. How do you think they got to be number one? The current outrage in America is because we thought we were different. Government of the people, and all that jazz. While, realistically, Democracy is merely the latest sociological craze since the passing of monarchies (via the French, Russian, and American revolutions).

    Well, it turns out that we were just kidding ourselves that America was different. We probably should have seen it coming. Native American genocide. Slavery. Robber Barons. Nuking Japan. Systemic racism. JFK, RFK, MLK. The Military Industrial Complex. And now state sponsored corporatism (Fascism).

    So after 100K years of rising human globalism, with its endless string of empires, America is the newest snot-nosed kid on the block. And it should come as no surprise that our empire ended up like all the others. Man’s inhumanity to man, and all that jazz.

    “The illusion of freedom [in America] will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” –Frank Zappa

    • jj September 9, 2010, 3:34 pm

      Turns out the weapons of mass destruction were in your own backyards America, OTC derivatives!

      Created by Wall St greed fed to its own and then sliced and diced rubber stamped AAA and sold to the world, Greece is front page news again.

      Whats really leaves a sick, sad feeling in my gut is those that created the mess were bailed out, and none of these greedy creators have been tossed in jail, just fined, paided for in Tarp funds, or FASB 157 “make believe values”

      I wish this was all a very bad dream…..because this nightmare is far, far from over!

      I don’t care if there is a heaven, but I pray there is a He!!

      Excellent article, Wayne

    • redwilldanaher September 9, 2010, 5:46 pm

      Howg and JJ, thanks for commenting. I think you are “dead on” Howg. Those are the same conclusions that I arrived at over time which is one reason that I advocate secession (I happily reside with my family in SC) and a loose confederation of states. There has to be a reasonable proximity between the governed and the corrupt, er, the governing. That’s something that’s simple and I guess as a result gets overlooked. It’s a lot easier to act as they do when they have the same perspective as Harry Lime atop the amusement park ride and conversely it makes resistance all the more difficult for the “little people” below. Final note JJ, total agreement with you. This is a nightmare. My brother and I are considering trademarking this for T shirt sales: “The idea that HELL exists is the only thing that makes it possible for me to rise from my bed each morning.” Kinda wordy and it might not even be original for all we know but d@mn if it doesn’t genuinely express our feelings.

  • C.C. September 9, 2010, 7:28 am

    “I think that if the Republicans get control this November, a sharp knife will be slicing through the last tattered social safety net left to Joe Six Pack.”

    Contrasted with:

    “A nearly perfectly divided electorate that’s addicted to the right/left paradigm.”

  • Edward September 9, 2010, 6:02 am

    Like all narratives that manage to get a serious bead on “the truth” this piece is a massive breath of fresh air. You are not alone, Will. You can read perspectives similar to yours at my blog, and at Attempter’s site-his link can be found on my site-to name but a few kindred spirits. Conspiracies are always staggeringly difficult, if not impossible, to prove, and, as you suggest, in this case, the only thing that strains credulity more than a dreadful “conspiracy theory” is the notion that our present condition is merely the result of bumbling incompetence and/or randomness.

    • redwilldanaher September 9, 2010, 5:27 pm

      Thanks Edward, I will check those out when I can. As you well know, that’s one of the best arrows in their quivers. People, perhaps it is human nature, do not like being labled an “outcast”. When they slap “conspiracy theorist” on someone it is very effective. It’s as if they’ve drained you of all your power and any future power you’d have because you’re then forever more a “conspiracy theorist”. It never bothered me because for some reason I realized early on the majority is nearly always wrong. That’s been a blessing and a curse for me ever since. I guess I took it to heart when my mother and grandmother told me that “names can never hurt you”! As others have already noted in the forum there is a very strong case that’s chock full of historical precedents for what we are experiencing. So I guess we really shouldn’t be surprised by anything! But that’s why I delved into my personal stuff. I’m sure I’m not alone as an American kid. Inculcated and indoctrinated. Steeped in idealism for years and all of it cemented by mass media. They’ve really got it down too. I really appreciate the “curveball” that they throw us every now and then so that you begin to doubt yourself. I’d suspect they find a fall guy that can no longer be of use and it’s decided that he gets “sent over” so that they can accomplish things in neat and tidy package. I’m sure you’ve heard of people that got too close to leaking information. They seem to become rather publicly humiliated in short order….if they’re “lucky.”

    • Robert September 9, 2010, 7:52 pm

      Just a personal opinion on “conspiracy”

      Conspiracy seems to me as a historical classification of the orderly arrangement of consequences to a given set of disparate actions.

      Secrecy by its nature does not denote conspiracy, except when it serves to deny another person the pleasures you take for granted.

      I’ll never assume that conspiracy is pre-determined. The power is simply not as great as would be necessary to manifest a specific, deliberate outcome on a global scale.

      Take the UFO/Alien conspiracy theory, for example. Those that assume that Governments are deliberately hiding and covering up known factual evidence of the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence lose site of the fact that the extra-terrestrials themselves have to be in on the secrecy in order for the conspiracy to be valid… and if that was the case (extraterrestrial colusion with Human governments) then, the mandatory followup question must be “well, then, exactly who is out there abducting people and experimenting on them?”

      The bogus alien manifesto must then arise:
      “We don’t want you to know we exist, yet we still plan to expose ourselves to you in order to keep experimenting on you as part of some nefarious plan that your governments are fully aware of”…. HUH?

      It’s the same deal with the Trilateral commision. The conscious choice to destroy the USA, while simultaneously empowering China and the far east, simply does not jive against the assumption that the end game is a single global system of government.

      The whole thing makes me wonder if the “intended” collapse wasn’t supposed to originate in the far east first, and perhaps the events of 2008 were a little pre-mature and possibly threw the whole thing into a tailspin…?

      Either way.. it all makes for interesting reading. Thanks Wayne for another dose of daily thought-medicine!

    • Benjamin September 10, 2010, 2:21 am

      @Robert (and conspiracies, in general)

      Don’t be silly… Of course there is no such thing as natural rights! Why, the very idea!

      So everything is answered. The collapse was, in a way, “planned”. It just so happened that the agendas of the powers collided with the reality of free will and natural rights, failed because of the need to acknowledge and respect those things. The end result is a rocket that doesn’t go, for the want of a design that takes gravity into account.

  • JohnJay September 9, 2010, 5:24 am

    Wayne, we are all in agreement that the USA has been sliced, diced, and sold piece by piece down the river over the past 30 or so years.
    I’m old enough to remember the sad litany of industries outsourced, steel mills, auto plants, telelevision set plants etc. to the point where there is now almost nothing left to lose to foreigners.
    From LBJ’s Vietnam to the Bush teams Kuwait, Iraq, etc. to Obama’s Afghanistan.
    From LBJ’s banishment of silver coins to Nixon’s gold window,Clinton’s NAFTA, to the Greenspan/Bernanke ZIRP-QE final nail in our fiscal coffin.
    From Ted Kennedy’s “Immigration Reform” in the 60s, to H1B, and “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” that Kennedy tried to pass as his Swan Song with McCains help.
    If there wasn’t a conspiracy to destroy this country, there might just as well have been.
    The people that have been hurt the most by all this seem content to live in their cars, or pack in three or four generations to a house, while looking for that elusive job that has been gone for twenty years.
    The only thing that gets them out in the streets is a Laker’s Championship.
    I think that if the Republicans get control this November, a sharp knife will be slicing through the last tattered social safety net left to Joe Six Pack.
    You can’t lead if no one will follow.
    Everyman for himself at this point I’m afraid.

    • Larry September 9, 2010, 4:05 pm

      …a sharp knife will be slicing through the last tattered social safety net…

      If past is prologue, expect increased spending on the tattered social safety net.

    • redwilldanaher September 9, 2010, 4:57 pm

      Hi John, Larry, I’m forced to agree wholeheartedly with Larry here although I think that you made some excellent points John. It may as well have been conspiratorial in means given the end were wearing. The social safety net has been an all too effective replacement for slavery and repository for perfunctory votes for the poverty pimps. It’s hard to argue with the idea that temporary support of our fellow man is the right thing to do but just like everything else it has been gamed and abused and the losers are the “beneficiaries”. I learned from reading Thomas Sowell what “poverty pimpery” (if that’s allowable!) is all about many moons ago and G. Edward Griffin taught me and millions of others that the Democrats are “french vanilla” and the Republicans are just “plain vanilla”. TPTB may have to launch a credibility reclamation gambit with members of Republicorp misdirecting the efforts but before the curtain is closed on the first act they’ll all be back to doing “god’s work” in new “creative” ways.

    • acudoc September 13, 2010, 8:37 am

      Hugo Salinas Price has written a lucid and brilliant essay advocating a return to the international gold standard:

      Our debt-based money, managed by a cartel of fractional-reserve banks, has corrupted every level of society.

      I say we need an Andrew Jackson to rout the latest incarnation of vipers. Return to gold and let justice prevail, though the heavens fall!

  • Chris T. September 9, 2010, 4:50 am

    Can’t wait to finish reading this.

    If this turns out to be the real deal, then we really did have our 1932+ repeat, because that crisis, despite popular belief was also brought about for the benefit of the bankers.
    Under the guise of being a traitor to his class, FDR enriched his buddies with inflation , while taking a little bit away to look like the little guy’s friend.

    • redwilldanaher September 9, 2010, 4:45 pm

      Thanks for replying Chris. As someone else noted in their comments today, I believe that the real truth, which we will likely never fully know, is far, far worse than we can reasonably speculate. I feel like someone that has abused the English language and the word “nefarious” in particular. I’ve used it for years to describe what I think “goes on”. But here’s the thing, “early 90’s nefarious” is now “how business gets done” today. “Nefarious” today will likely be something that we’re nostalgic for (“the good old days’) in another decade or so if these trends continue!

  • Grass Ranger September 9, 2010, 4:40 am

    Wayne, there are an amazing number of similarities in your assessment of the American economy and society to Michael Lewis’s description of Greece in his current Vanity Fair article “Beware of Greeks Bearing Bonds.” In both countries it appears corruption is so inbred at the highest level that the participants (citizens) think it is normal. How much longer can these systems last?

    • redwilldanaher September 9, 2010, 4:32 pm

      That’s a great point Grass. I guess we now have a better sense of what lies at the end of the moral relativism rainbow. Just like many of the other “trends” I’d guess that this occurs fairly gradually. In other words, people told today what acts they will engage in down the road may be shocked but the same person may surely still “get there” if the behavior modifications are encouraged gradually. I wish I could answer your question about duration but I honestly have no idea although I do “sense a disturbance in the dark side of the schwartz.” I feel as though more and more people are starting to see through the misdirection and malfeasance. How many? Again, no clue…

  • Other Paul September 9, 2010, 3:31 am

    A very widely used and effective fraud auditing software is called ACL. The software distributor publishes statistics in its sales literature about who commits fraud:

    10% of people will never commit fraud
    80% will under the “right circumstances”
    10% will actively seek out fraud opportunities

    Greed is a great motivator–so is the very small chance of getting caught, indicted, convicted and serving time. Few, if any, thieves (or the authorities) will go “state’s evidence” as long as they are receiving a piece of the action.

    • Benjamin September 9, 2010, 4:43 am

      “10% of people will never commit fraud
      80% will under the “right circumstances”
      10% will actively seek out fraud opportunities”

      This ACL sounds like a surveillance camera company in England.

    • redwilldanaher September 9, 2010, 4:23 pm

      OP, another interesting part of it is the “cog in the machine” aspect in my opinion. One intentional oversight here, one bit of neglect there, a poor assumption here, threats of job loss occasionally, it all adds up. The counter argument is that “what you’re arguing would require this grand conspiracy…” No it doesn’t. Those near the top in these corporations may see most of the picture and how it is painted but their minions are likely to believe that they are committing “petty” offenses at worst when they succumb to the pressure to falsify or misstate. We should all know by now that nothing of substance really exists between Wall St. analysts and CFO’s except “wink, wink”. Financial forecasts and corporate accounting are NOW notoriously unreliable and littered with out and out fraud. It doesn’t seem to bother anyone though does it? Ever since Clinton realized that higher stock index levels could keep the noose from his neck the sociopols from both parties have done their best to NOT treat this spreading malignancy.

  • Benjamin September 9, 2010, 3:26 am

    “I strongly advocate peaceful secession from what is still referred to as the United States of America.”

    Support from this reader… strongly denied. Read what Andrew Jackson and James Madison, to name two, had to say about secession. My own thoughts: It’s the duty of each and every free man to stand up to tyranny in our nation when/where it is found and, by peace or by sword, resist and remove it… not run from it.

    Other than that, I agree with your main point… Not nearly enough are cynical enough. While many see the lies in the MSM, there still seems to be the general idea that we can recover from within this system, that there can be honesty in this paper/digital/bookkeeping empire. The other hurdle is what I find most troubling…

    Even when they do see the right of things, 99.9% fall to the notion that the powers are, well, “too powerful” to stop. Forgive me if this seems a little extreme and gross, but (read: turn back if you have a weak stomach. You’ve been fairly warned)…

    Back in 1991, a man known as Jeffrey Dahmer shocked the nation upon being discovered to be a cannibal and necrophiliac… several times over. As his apartment was emptied out of all evidence, as his story was aired, there was a near-universal reaction: We had a monster living among us.

    And yet, going back far enough in human history, or even just looking in the natural world, these sorts of things were more common. Animals, both in captivity and in nature, have been observed to engage in those behaviors, even though they were not starving and not long deprived of a mate. In human societies of bygone eras, we rationalized those urges into religious practices. In the case of necrophilia, it was to prevent “devils” and other “evil spirits” from impregating a female virgin’s corpse. Cannibalism was often part of the death/rebirth cycle, though not exclusively so. (Just think… that was once someone’s job, or at least a part of their job!)

    Obviously, as the modern day disgust proves, there came a point where these practices were done away with. Not only that, in place of acceptance was a new wiring of the brain, the same rewiring that causes most to see someone like Dahmer as a monster. It’s not only wholly unnessecary, but also unforgivingly, irredeemably sick on the perpetrator’s part. But I can easily imagine the time it took for those reactions to embedded themselves firmly…

    “Well, yeah, I don’t really see the point, and it IS gross. But better safe than sorry… I’m just glad *I* don’t have to do it!”

    “I know, I know… But the neighboring tribes practice these things as well. If we stop, our shamans will lose their magical powers and then we’ll be vulnerable to attack!”

    “It’s bad luck to kill a shaman. They have powers, you know. Powers to torture you even beyond the grave!”

    “We should just… send them away. Killing them seems so… Why can’t we just send them away somewhere?!”

    “For the crime of black magics and other unwholesome practices, the punishment shall be DEATH!”

    “Death?! He was just troubled, is all! I blame the parents, public schools, and television…”

    “In regards to the debate that man once defiled the dead…How can we even know this “Dahmer” once existed?! Why, every record from that era shows that people used to think paper money and bookkeeping entries had real value! They were probably making up similar stories…”

    “(game dealyed, due to solar burnout)”

    Personally, I believe we’re in a transition phase, one from which humanity will emerge far more (though not entirely) resistant to the illusions of the “powerful”. The wiring will advance, as it did in many somewheres along the line in regard to… those other things. How far along we are, I don’t know. What I do know is that this isn’t the first decade of the transition. That hardly matters, though.

    The powers are not powerful. Or, at least, are only as powerful as people perceive them to be, and thus allow them to be. We do not need them for anything and indeed they don’t _provide anything_ but destruction. The sooner more people realize this, the sooner they can act against them. Their extinction awaits them.

    • Robert September 9, 2010, 7:29 pm

      “It’s the duty of each and every free man to stand up to tyranny in our nation when/where it is found and, by peace or by sword, resist and remove it… not run from it. ”

      I’m with you, Ben.

    • redwilldanaher September 10, 2010, 4:48 pm

      Benjamin, Robert, I don’t mean to give short shrift to your other comments but I have to strongly disagree with you both in characterizing “secession” as running from tyranny. Do you believe that the early settlers in the New World were cowardly or in fact had ran from tyranny? Or did they elect to take the practical and logical path in their pursuit of happiness and liberty? BTW, I own a few firearms and trust me I can hit the side of a barn with them but, unless I’m misunderstanding both of you, I have to classify you as not fully appreciating the apparatus that is aligned against you or that you’re a hopeless romantic. I recently told my closest friend that I’d rather go out by demonstrating to my sons what I was willing to do to try to ensure their freedom as there are far worse ways to exit the stage. That’s a selfish way to handle it though, don’t you think? It’s about them and their future at this point much more than mine. I’m in my early 40’s and I’m more concerned for their future than I was optimistic for mine before I stumbled upon fragments of the truth. We’re in a virtual lock down state. The “folks” haven’t got a chance working within the matrix they’ve erected while the sheople slumbered. You’re obviously both intelligent gentleman and thus you’re likely aware that our modern economy operates with a just-in-time inventory system. How long before the average suburban family would quite easily be starved out? “He who controls the spice controls the universe.” The thin line between “civil society” and a police state is thinner than most people are willing to contemplate. Anarchy isn’t nearly as far away either especially in smaller quadrants. Think of the Korean grocers in the aftermath of the Rodney King madness. At some point I may try to put something cohesive together with regards to secession but I guess I’d prefer to ask you both this question: Who are you going to stand up to and why? Why do you want to maintain what the USSA has become? Why do you want to maintain an apparatus that permits turnkey totalitarianism and does it relatively efficiently at that? IMO reality is that there has to be a threat that some geography won’t be a party to it any longer. Proximity is woefully undervalued and centralized power dangerously overvalued in this world IMO. Here’s what I’ll do if I ever reach Uriyatyn: “live, just live.” I don’t know if it was Pasternak or Bolt that wrote that line but regardless, to me, it’s pure genius.

    • Steve September 11, 2010, 7:00 am

      Why speak of secession when the Contracts allow abolishment ?

    • Benjamin September 11, 2010, 8:28 am


      “Who are you going to stand up to and why? Why do you want to maintain what the USSA has become? Why do you want to maintain an apparatus that permits turnkey totalitarianism and does it relatively efficiently at that? ”

      To preserve the corruption of the…?! Now, where in the words “to remove tyranny where and when it is found”, is preservation of corruption expressed or implied? I do beleive I said confront and remove.

      Anyway, Article I, Section 8 says it all…

      “The Congress shall have power… To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions”

      As Steve so often says of our modern day government, it is in rebellion of the the Constitution. Congress must call forth the militia to put down this rampant and long-running insurrection, but would any of them ever do such a thing? Right… So what recourse do we have?

      It must be removed. Whether this a peaceful surrendur or an insistence upon more is not up to me or anyone other than the rebels, as it is their rebellion.

      But even if secession was a Constitutional right why do you think a corrupt congress is ever going to make any such effort worthwhile?

      “Do you believe that the early settlers in the New World were cowardly or in fact had run from tyranny?”

      Doesn’t matter what they were. Tyranny found them, as always it will when it’s left to fester.

      “I have to classify you as not fully appreciating the apparatus that is aligned against you or that you’re a hopeless romantic.”

      Who, me? Even though you apparently beleive there can be lasting peace and liberty in a secession?

      Besides, I’m well aware of what removing the corrupt would entail. And yes, it has to be we, the people, because there is no one else. Doesn’t matter if I romance the idea or not (frankly, I just wish humans would accept that we must behave ourselves). That is the reality of things. I can think of a zillion other things I’d rather do, if it’s any consolation.

    • redwilldanaher September 13, 2010, 9:39 pm

      Probabilities? My guess is that a “red” “redneck” state full of “bigots, racists and hate mongers” has a better chance of hearing “good riddance” than of seeing the other alternatives that have been mentioned. Call me unrealistic…

  • Steve September 9, 2010, 1:45 am

    So, give me the “collar “. I’d like to add it to my theory – don’t mess with the money, they will kill you. If I have it, they can take it. They may not know what they are doing, but; they are a part of it. Propaganda works.

    You did a fine job of filling in some the the infamous “they”, “it”, and “should”.

    • redwilldanaher September 9, 2010, 4:09 pm

      Hi Steve,

      I can actually provide with a good deal of information on the collar. Possibly more than you’d like! I’d prefer to do it via email because I don’t want it to appear as if I’ve “spammed” the forum. If you email me at [email protected], I’ll be happy to provide you with a good deal of information on how you can hedge your portfolio “quick and dirty” style and possibly not have to risk any capital in doing it. I know that sounds “pie in the sky” but when you familiarize yourself with options a little (assuming you’re new to them) you’ll see that what I’ve claimed is 100% true.

  • Jack L. Earl September 9, 2010, 1:40 am

    Wayne, wow.
    This is a great article. I have followed the other commentaries the past few days and, as you wrote, others have implied bits and pieces of similar thoughts and there are blogs on the net that concur with your ideas but you have the courage to put all of your cards on the table. It’s nice to hear from someone else who “knows what we know.”
    Like you, I don’t know for sure what is going on, but I am more disturbed every day by what I see. I don’t want to let this reply get out of hand because I could write pages on what I have found but I won’t. As I said, I don’t know for sure what is going on but let me leave you with two quotes from someone who does:

    “We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the world is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in past centuries.” (From a meeting of the Bilderberg Group) David Rockefeller

    “For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well publicized incidents, such as my encounter with Castro, to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as “internationalists”, and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure. One-world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty and I am proud of it.”
    David Rockefeller, Trilateral Commission founder, Inaugural member of the Bilderberg Group, youngest director Council on Foreign Relations

    Thanks again, Wayne… jack

    • redwilldanaher September 9, 2010, 4:04 pm

      Hi Jack, thanks for your comments. I’ve stumbled upon those gems from “D Rock” myself more than a few times over the years. Believe me, I understand what you mean with regards to how much you could publish just from your own research. The quotes that you have published though speak to the arrogance of “them” and the fact that the simple truth is literally right in front of us but many people still won’t even consider it. Paul Craig Roberts recently announced that he’s “retired”, thoroughly frustrated mind you, from trying to bring the truth to light. He stated something to the effect that “the american people refuse to see what is directly in front of them”. As usual I agree with him. The power of mass media propagandists is staggering. The entire subject fascinates me. I’ve been reading up on Huxley vs. Orwell for a while now and I can see elements of both dystopian visions in our times. What’s interesting to me now is how the US has been able to perpetuate the free society illusion and thus taken a more Huxley-esque approach than the former USSR which I believe most would argue had a closer resemblance to Orwell’s depiction. A final note would come from Oliver Stone’s “Wall St.” of all places. Cartoonish Gekko makes a comment to the effect that “if you’re not on the INSIDE, you’re on the outside pal”. And that’s the problem that you and I and nearly all the others will always have to contend with. There’s no way for us to know exactly what’s going on and why. What is genuine, somewhat genuine or totally contrived. I’ll have to expand on this judging from what Benjamin has written below but I have assume that you and I would likely agree that the centralization of power is generally a very bad idea.

    • Robert September 9, 2010, 7:15 pm

      Rockefeller’s vision for a post-national world is sound, but his methods are completely , 100% wrong.

      When a person believes that the only way to accomplish what they beleive to be the right thing is by secrecy, colusion, and manipulation, then they are agents of evil, even if they are too stupid (or too privileged as a result of their upbringing) to realize that they are patsies to the forces of negative influence.

      True righteousness always endures full scrutiny in the light of day, and the best world will always be a world where people and markets are free to regulate themselves.

      David Rockefeller would warmly embrace fairness and balance on a global scale: That is- he would love for everyone in the world to be as rich as him, yet that wish falls to the wayside the second that the alternative (him being as poor as everyone else) is placed on the table.

      Fairness can not exist without balance, which is why a single government composed of an “intellectual elite and world bankers” is a concept doomed from the git-go.

      Rockefellar will be regarded by history in the same light as Marie-Antoinette.

      “Let them eat cake” – It didn’t work then, and it ain’t gonna work now.

      Now, to all of that- I don’t think that anyone out there is deliberately out to undermine the USA- many just want to target and disable our present form of Stooge- based Federal Government. I won’t debate the argument that the US socio-economic landscape is in decline, nor will I dispute that some of this erosion may be a consequence of deliberate action on the parts of certain connected global interests…

      … but I will always fall back on the fact that right now, at this point in world history, the USA still offers those individuals seeking true freedom and liberty with their greatest chance of finding it: but they will have to endure some pain along the way (although not nearly as much pain as if they were trying to accomplish the same goal in China, Russia, or even good old Mother England)

    • Chris T. September 9, 2010, 7:58 pm


      you give Rockefeller and people like him too much credit.
      They are NOT interested positive elements of harmony, either economic or social. Those are just the false-carrots dangled in front ot those that really believe those things to be good.
      What they are really after is CONTROL, and the fullest possible, which is to control the whole blue-ball, not just one part, even if that is the strongest at the moment.

      They want this control, one to enrich themselves even further, and two, just for its own sake.
      If they use subterfuge or obfuscation, it’s becauses the know that their minions to be would not accept it, if they became aware.
      Yet, they don’t think they are evil–far from it, they think it’s theirs to aspire to by right.
      The best analogy is a farmer who uses horses and oxen to plow and pull.
      He is their master, and normally, treats them fairly well in stabling and feeding, but if there is disobedience, some negative reinforcement is used.
      No one, not the farmer, nor others like him there is anything wrong with that, its just the natural order.
      The only difference to us is, that the farmers work-animals are incapable of realizing they are servants, and it is Rockefeller’s and his pals way, to keep their servants from realizing anything either.

      As far as stating that no one is out to destroy the US, I disagree.
      If we are talking about the notion that is the US, as enshrined by Jefferson, Madison and others, they certainly are.
      They have succeeded to a great extent already, and because they are not done yet, keep at it.

      They certainly do not, at this point, want to bring about a collapse of the political and national entity, as it is the best tool they have had to get their way, but they are sometimes so taken by their hubris, that their actions are doing this damage even so.
      Once the damage is 100%, its time to either move on to the next strongest kid on the block, or alternatively, they have succeeded, in which case they got what they wanted.

      But when someone is working for a system that by definition requires at least partial surrender of sovereignth, then it implicitly includes a destruction (partial or fully) of the extant parts.

      The EU is a perfect example:
      The main drivers always knew and wanted a dissolution of the constituent parts in favor of a pan-European state, a U.S.E., but they also knew that their minions would strongly object. So they always made it appear as it was only for some specific benefits:
      lower tariffs, easier access, no-travel restricitons, etc, etc.

      And, all these people believe themselves to be an elite, knowing best for you and me.
      If we object their answer is:
      We need to educate people more, they are uninformed:
      Meaning: No one in their right mind could object, thus if they do its only for ignorance or stupidity.
      The definition of arrogance.

    • redwilldanaher September 10, 2010, 4:15 pm

      ChrisT, thanks you. “Dead on” – I use it too much but it’s too accurate to not use it too much. Your response was very close to what I would have written – only better!