A Reader Praises EU ‘Sacrifice’

Because we called the latest Eurobailout a PR hoax in our most recent commentary, we’ll give equal time to a quite different point of view posted in the Rick’s Picks forum.  The author is “Cameroni,” a frequent contributor who says the European Union deserves praise for not shunning Greece and the PIIGs, especially since it will require considerable sacrifice on the part of the “haves.” Here’s Cam:

“The European Union must be congratulated. They have acted responsibly by choosing union over self interest and Nationalism. Instead of shunning Greece, shutting her out and locking the door behind them they have instead made a tremendous sacrifice and have opted instead to take a share in Greece’s misfortunes despite the obvious risks. And they have put their collective neck on the line for the whole union by establishing what amounts to an insurance program for the rest of the sick patients in the group. The pain will be shared while expectations of future growth have been lowered.

“At the same time they have sent a clear message to bond rating agencies. You can be replaced. Nobody needs a Rhodes Scholarship anymore to see the clear connection between the Bond raters and currency speculators. Nor do we need a microscope to see how destabilizing those influences can be nor how quickly the global financial system can be brought to the brink of economic calamity. The events of the last two weeks has made it clear to all just how disruptive those influences can be and what negative implications it has for both political stability and global markets. Their blunder will bring on change.

No Child’s Game

“This is not a child’s games anymore. Future financial reforms may well include putting limits on the speculation of currencies. We will see what transpires with the G20 meetings next month in Canada. I think it is safe to say that some dramatic reforms could well be in the offing. There is simply too much at stake to allow the greed and opportunism of a handful of people married to the lightning speed of computers and established market practices to impact the very stability of nations. We just witnessed a very close call with a bad destiny. A Euro in sharp decline combined with extreme fear, even panic and markets in flight. There were no fat fingers. The near crash was precipitated by a panic sell-off that triggered backstops and cascaded the market downward in a whirlwind of computer generated trades. Many investors and some traders were not even present to witness it all except on the six-o-clock news. Suddenly presets and program trading is in the spotlight. Will we allow computers to crash the system any more than continue to tolerate speculators bringing no less than the stability to the European Union into doubt?

“But with so much liquidity sloshing around the system and always on the lookout for better investing opportunities, it has instead found easy kills in currency markets. Fortunes can be made in the blink of an eye. Counties can be ruined. And it is all too easy when the targets are so public and vulnerable and systems are in place to capitalize on those misfortunes. Capital is now being misallocated in the most dangerous and irresponsible way. Short term gains are surely going to lead to big long term losses.

Taming Speculators

“This is not hunting for bargains. It is more like shooting chickens in a barrel. That is why the European Union has done the right thing and why I congratulate them. They have taken steps to tame the speculators and rescued their own currency through policies that will bring stability back to the Eurozone.

“Now if only those pesky Greek citizens would just get on board and cooperate it just might work.”

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  • Alex Bond May 16, 2010, 12:16 am

    cameroni – you’re veering even further off the path of rationality with your latest comments :).

    We should not bail out Greece, this is very true. But why? Is it because the Greeks don’t deserve it, or because they’re too selfish, or because they brought it upon themselves? While all of these are true in some sense, the bigger reason is simple: we don’t have the money. After all, governments have been overspending for decades and eventually they’ll have to fail. Greece is just lucky enough to go first; it’s merely a random selection. The UK, Spain, Portugal, Venezuela, Argentina or even the US could have been first, but the luck of the draw went to the Greeks… Random chance doesn’t provide the same opportunity for your moral pontificating and self righteous indignation, so obviously it isn’t favored by many commentators.

    You are right that we must start paying down our debts, as we cannot expect our creditors to bail us out, like we’re bailing out the Greeks. The Greeks do not deserve our money, and we do not deserve China’s money — but as long as China is stupid enough to give it to us to prolong the day of reckoning, then we’ll take it and live large until the end, I guess…

    You are quite wrong, however, saying that a debt default or lack of a bailout will cause a deep, long lasting depression and large tax increases. We’ll have a deep depression to be sure, but as long as the bad investments and debt are cleared away, it will not last too long — a few years instead of a few decades. To get a decade-long depression, you need continual government interference.

    I find it funny that you believe “seriously curtailed services at all levels of government” and “political instability” to be bad things. We’re in the mess we’re in because the government has tried to provide too many services, few of which it has any business providing. I for one would welcome some political instability — it would be nice if people simply quit trusting their politicians and refused to allow the Federal government to continue its decades-long power grab.

    I also do not understand how you can view gun owners as the “lunatic fringe”, seeing as how a significant portion of the country owns at least one gun, and more than a few own dozens of them. If anything, a heavily armed population will keep a lid on any rampant crime problems, when push comes to shove.

    Your comment regarding “shooting Gophers for stew and guarding their little piles of gold for barter while in general wreaking havoc on what remains of the environment. That should make the RV experience a little more interesting!” is rather outlandish… How you make the leap between survivalist types eating gophers (which aren’t very good — try rabbits or possum) and destruction of the environment is a little beyond comprehension. Maybe you’re just jealous of not having a few extra boxes of ammunition of your own, eh?

    Another great depression is not “unthinkable”, it is the only scenario that will allow the economy to be cleaned out of the cruft it has accumulated over the years – and to be is the preferred scenario. The alternative is a long, drawn-out continual recession where taxes are excessive, government control greatly increased and the economy stagnates for decades, destroying much of the wealth accumulated over the last hundred years.

    A war will not solve the problems we have today – it will merely exacerbate them, along with shifting the problems a little from one place to another, depending on who wins and who loses…

  • cameroni May 14, 2010, 2:04 am

    Gee Rick, I think your term “vehemence” is bit of an understatement. Seems I got quite a whipping.

    So the jury has spoken and the verdict (at least on this site) is unanimous and overwhelming. We should not be a party to bailing out Greece or any of the GIPS. Let the Greeks default and tough it out on their own. This is after all a problem of their own making. Those Greeks are so selfish! So cut em loose. And on that premise, China, Japan and our other creditors should not be bailing us out either which of course they have been doing for many, many years. What makes us so different? Which really leaves only one alternative. We must also begin paying down debts and reducing our borrowing. Significantly.

    This will be interesting.

    So consider that alternative then. A very deep long lasting depression, massive unemployment, large tax increases, seriously curtailed services at all levels of government, reduced health care, a social safety net that unhinges and possibly fails completely, social unrest, rising crime and political instability. Of course we will also have the lunatic fringe heading for the hills with extra boxes of ammo, camping out in the woods, shooting Gophers for stew and guarding their little piles of gold for barter while in general wreaking havoc on what remains of the environment. That should make the RV experience a little more interesting!

    It does look as though Gold has decoupled by the way and prices will be going much, much higher. It also looks as though the stock market is now pricing in future inflation premised on debt monetization if Peter Schiff’s view is correct. Who knows where it might top. Perhaps the other lunatic fringe that predicted the Dow reaching 45,000 may yet have the last laugh. Eventually.

    But as I said at the start, this verdict is overwhelming. Another Great Depression is unthinkable too though. Can anyone offer a better alternative to the problems we are confronted with? There is always that old standby we can depend on. And it is effective. A war to settle all accounts. But I guess that would be World War III.

    Hmmm. I think I will hedge my bets and go with the Euro bailout for the moment. It is much more settling for my nerves and I am pretty sure there are not enough Gophers to go around for everyone.

    Cam

  • Mitch May 13, 2010, 12:49 am

    Rich,
    So why don’t you believe what Rick says about gold and silver? You certainly bashed me on that awhile back as I recall. I’m just wondering, as most deflationists (Prechterites) and other gold bears are getting killed on that type of advice. Short gold in this environment? Wow.

  • Chris T. May 12, 2010, 11:45 pm

    perhaps we can replace the germanic (not to water down your sense, just the wording) with the good old protestant work ethic.

    There must be a reason why it was northern Europe (indeed full of the germanic peoples, from the brits to the dutch, the germans, the danes, the swedes, swiss, and yes also the french to a large extend (the Franks were a germanic tribe settling finally mainly in nothern France) etc), and its descendants in the US that gave the impetus to much of what we consider to have been good about the past industrialization and development.

    And the protestant part is as good a startng point as any, and that pretty much a faith from that geogpraphic location. Especially the French themselves are instructive, where the battle between the faiths was waged so severely for so long, viz the Huguenot extermination, etc, their Protestants went on to form key components of the future growth in Holland, Prussia, and elsewhere in Europe. It was the latters gain, and the French’s loss.

  • TahoeBilly May 12, 2010, 11:16 pm

    Hey man, Germans like to make stuff, no I mean they REALLY like to make stuff! They also like to buy stuff from, uh, other Germans! Too bad the US has been loosing it’s Germanic “can do” roots for years now, replaced with creative financing schemes, Chinese toaster ovens and really bad Hollywood movies. This Euro experiment will end badly. Our experiment will end badly if we don’t get back to our own Germanic roots. Sounds “rascist” yea I know, just a fact though…it’s how we got here folks, simply as a field being cut, cleared and plowed.

  • Oliver May 12, 2010, 9:36 pm

    Yup. I got me a nice big chunk of physical silver in the morning and noon the spread was gone for me. Wow…

    I think the rally no surprise. Summer – fall 2007. Everybody knew and was in the bunkers and the damn thing kept rising.
    I was short everybody and their toilet fly and got zeroed. But I don´t do margin, so I never get force-f….. So I can usually let go, when I feel like giving up.
    I think thursday just showed the plain and simple truth: noone´s buying.
    Traders only. Shorts trying forever. GS cashing in forever. Until…

  • Ledbedder May 12, 2010, 9:12 pm

    OMG! Yep, but a band aide on that GAPING wound!

  • Rich May 12, 2010, 7:11 pm

    Hats off to Rick for awesome calls on gold, silver and stocks…

  • Chris T. May 12, 2010, 6:45 pm

    To Oliver:
    “You have to be here to feel the explosiveness of the situation.”
    It’s not the first time, and as always, the system will find a way to defuse it. In a few weeks, all these p***ed-off people will break out their quadrennial black-gold-and-red soccer flags, cheer “their” team, and have forgotten the extant mess.

    To cameroni:

    “These are not normal times though.”
    And that justifies breaking all the rules? Rules are not fair-weather guides, if they can’t be followed in dire situations, they are worthless.
    Its exactly THAT attitude that breeds the totalitarianism you are afraid of.
    No different than pushing the Patriot Act through when the whole country is in uproar. “Never let a crisis go to waste”, to quote Emmanuel.

    “…other good options at this time if Union was to be maintained.”

    Who says it must be maintained?

    “…Nationalism” and “beggar thy neighbor attitudes”. Those ideas brought us fascism, totalitarianism and the Nazis…”

    That is the politically correct modern view of those events, but it is too convenient and false.
    What brought on the instability of the 20s, which led to European totalitarianism was the unjust Treaty of Versailles, which, as many observers at the time pointed out, was a “peace treaty” that could not help but lead to war. Obviously those observers were right, and therefore their opinions should be regarded higher than modern PC history clap-trap.
    At least as much as the dire economic straights in central Europe in the late twenties and early thirties, Hitler was able to capitalize on a general feeling of having been unjustly treated and made impotent to do anything about it, that was felt in Germany and Austria as a consequence of Versailles.
    BTW, this same feeling of economic and general discontent and impotence is what breeds terrorism in countries of the Arab world, etc.

    No amount of non-organically grown top-down “unity” will overcome that permanently.

  • SteveH. May 12, 2010, 5:43 pm

    Don’t get overemotional about Greece, simple mathematics shows there is absolutely NO way that they can repay their debts.
    Greece’s debts will shortly reach 150% GDP. If they roll over all future loans at say 6% then every year they will need to pay 9% of their GDP in interest every year. At present total taxes bring in 5% of GDP. Thus to cover interest payments they have to double their own tax take. They then have to find additional revenue to pay for such luxuries as police, schools, armed forces, prisons and even a few civil servants.
    Let’s learn to live with the facts of life, it just won’t happen!

  • Alex Bond May 12, 2010, 5:27 pm

    @cameroni: “Ordinarily I would be the first to deride capital controls, bailouts and rescue packages. These are not normal times though. The EU has done the right thing. I do not believe they had any other good options at this time if Union was to be maintained.”

    So normally you have common sense, but now when your precious (albeit poorly conceived) “union” is at stake you’re willing to abandon your principles and good judgment? Many people, myself included, view the EU as nothing more than a horrible experiment; Marx writ large… It has allowed stronger countries to be pillaged and weaker countries to not only spend the wealth of others, but to be granted access to credit and interest rates which they did not deserve.

    “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” pretty much sums up the spirit of this bailout. Instead of accepting the atrocities being committed against the last bastions of wealth and financial common sense in Europe, wouldn’t it be more prudent to accept the fact that the experiment called “the EU” has failed, and move on?

    The Greeks have been lying about their finances for a long time. They (and others) have not met the financial requirements for participation in the EU, in terms of debt and deficits, and yet they’re allowed to continue their membership — and thereby continue plundering the wealth of Europe. If the EU had any backbone or shred of common decency, they would remove members that have not lived up to their agreements. Instead, they want to keep the status quo, due to either vanity or stupidity

    When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging…

  • fallingman May 12, 2010, 5:18 pm

    Just a quick riposte:

    1) No nobility here. They created the mess. Now, they desperately seek to avoid the consequences. Con men getting caught and trying to squirm free.

    2) Yeah, it’s a bailout for the bankers. Big surprise.

    3) I am not gleeful that we’ll have to live through some dark times. I’m concerned…and pissed.

    4) As Jim Rickards said on CNBS, Goldman can easily call this bluff and run ’em like Soros ran the Bank of England. I will watch that spectacle with a mixture of contempt and amusement. Con men exposing con men.

    5) I’d say just about NO time was bought for the Trillion $ committed…and, it’s just pledged, not raised. Two different things. Where dat money come fum? Debt issue? Ha!

    6) The incentive to urgently pursue fiscal reform has been removed. It’s called enabling in the world of the junkie.

    7) The root cause of the crisis is unbacked paper currencies. If that isn’t addressed, nothing fundamental will change, This is all just the frantic shuffling of liabilities. And it’s PATHETIC.

    8) Gold.

  • mario cavolo May 12, 2010, 5:12 pm

    Cameroni as you say here ” To suggest that Governments today are feeling threatened by current economic trends is perhaps the understatement of the year. Fortunately though they are working together at this juncture instead of competing and I for one appreciate that attempts are being made to formulate a strategy to head off a disaster that so many are certain is coming.”
    ….and for your other comments of great value and integrity, they are appreciated…..however the problem is that the enemy which is bringing down the governments and bringing down the system is the very banking/financial rules system they have somehow allowed to be created…the governments are hostage to what the banking sector is doing and the bankers (GS) are then also allowed to be the bankers and trader/investment houses too! My God!…they can set the banking rules, set the rules for shorting, derivatives, leverage, set the rules for printing money to bail out mistakes, I mean what the hell CAN’T they do? Do they do any of it in the interest of the country within which they operate or even the global financial system? They’ve set up a global racetrack/casino room for themselves, rigged to win with the governments giving them the green light…so all the highminded talk in the world is, again, appreciated, but just spitting in the wind…it misses the point completely, sad very sad to say…the rich are screwing everyone possible, the rich in Greece cheat the system, and then the system is broke, and then the govt bails out the system, and the rich are still rich with what they pillaged…its a global virus contagion nightmare that is going to end one way and one way only….some nasty combination of currency deflation, asset deflation, hyperinflation of prices…the world is going to get it royally up the wazoo!! I see it coming like a tidal wave and I’m trying to figure out how to stay ahead of it and float in it when it hits…

    …the govt is demanding austerity from Greece, but where are their demands to the banking sector running amock causing all this destruction?…

    Cheers, Mario

  • nonplused May 12, 2010, 5:05 pm

    Hmm, if we aren’t going to tolerate speculators, rating agencies, computer trading, markets that go down, currencies that go down, etc., then what have we left? Maybe we should ask Hugo how to run an economy like that.

    Greece should default. That is the end of the road eventually no matter how many “bailouts”.

  • Otto Kobler May 12, 2010, 4:47 pm

    Hahahahahahah. That’s the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Cam is so proud of Europe coming together to save the Europe. No. The greek public employees unions have just screwed the frugal Germans and Dutch working people so that greek civil servents can get paid 14 months for 12 months of NOT WORKING. The political class just got immensely larger and more controlling. The financial class will feast on the remains because they have access to the political class.

    Cam’s right that there are new regulatory laws coming and you can bet that Goldman Sachs and friends will have a place at the table but normal working people will not. Those that Cam suggested who are willing to accept a lower standard of living to fatten up European bureaucrats and Blankfien and Soros have no voice in this whatsoever.

    Big government, big labor and big business. You can be sure they are looking out for you. Ha!

  • Steve May 12, 2010, 4:18 pm

    Darn, and here I am left without the first thought of reality. Does anyone study “history”, and the fact that government forced austerity measures only work in the short haul, and then end in anarchy unless instituted upon natural cycle depression(s).
    The problem is government, and intervention, and; lastly the fact governments will change to the negative.

  • Oliver May 12, 2010, 3:50 pm

    Alex: exactly.
    They use Keynes, when not applicable and stop using it, when applicable (see IMF-strategy -? -).

    Now that is a very interesting sort of anti-cyclical.

    It´s own disability to understand the necessary scarcity mechanism behind Fiat money plus the internet will kill this power-curious fat ape.
    The in between period, though, will be simply no fun to walk for the feeble and the faint of heart.

    Run, when the tsunami´s coming (just in case this is the real armaggedon), don´t keep watching…

    My remedy: split the Euro in weak and strong (reality plus future), make deals with lenders and then duck and see, whether the US is going to blow up, or who the poor bastards will be to eat all the crap that´s gonna hit soon…
    Or, is it nigh everyone? As the bible and Kevin Costner suggest?

  • Mark Loeffler May 12, 2010, 2:52 pm

    Pure poppycock! Greece should never have been a member in the first place as well as several other countries. The reality is how will they be able to overcome the impossible requirements of the loan? Like I said yesterday promising is one thing paying is another. As the other 16 nations line up for default at what point will they declare the whole mess a failure? Simple when the largest of them that are “too big to fail” goes under. Then panic will rule and all nations will then defult together in one final sad display. Then they can all be ready to accept the one world monetary system, on their knees with a gun to their head.

  • Gerhard May 12, 2010, 2:35 pm

    Hi,
    this rescueplan ist destined to fail. The only solution would be to change the rules of the ECB especially Art 21.1 which forbids the ECB to interact directly with its member states (see here: http://www.ecb.int/ecb/legal/pdf/de_statute_2.pdf) and to unify the fiscal policy of them (which is political unenforceable) or otherwise abandon the Euro for their national currency.
    An interesting article of Research Professor in Economics Bill Mitchell can be found here. http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=9632
    A convincing read (at least for me)

  • Alex May 12, 2010, 10:56 am

    @Cameroni
    “Did they skip all their history classes in school?”
    We have to give up more freedom and money or the “Nazis” will get us? More power to our brave leaders in their fight against the evil ones?
    Substitute in Communists for Nazis and this is precisely the thinking that gave rise to Nazism. Also totalitarianism means “where the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible”, seems to be pretty well with us already in Europe.
    The less power and freedom of action granted to politicians, the less able they are to abuse it – not the other way around.

  • Chris T. May 12, 2010, 7:11 am

    With all due respect, cmeronin, I have read other of your posts, but, here you are incorrect.

    It may be true, that for once unity over individual self interest prevailed on one level, but on another this is not true. It was NOT for Greece that Germany and France jumped, but for their OWN banks who woul d be the big loosers for abetting Greece all these years to the tune of 100+bill dollars.

    The action itself was not good, as I pointed out yesterday, they gave the junkie another shot of his dope, no more. While the junkie says thanks, everyone knows that giving in, and providing that dope is the wrong thing to do.

    As to the G20, how can you or anyone hope that a cure can come from exactly those quacks that produced the disease in the first place?
    One thing is sure, whatever needs to be done, it will NOT come from these actors.

    EVERY time there is a financial crisis, we hear the song of “the regulations are inadequate, we need more stringent ones, and more oversight”. This was so in 1907. in 1930, in the 70s, in the 80s, with Enron, and today.

    To quote others in this context: if the definition of insanity is doin the same thinf over again, and expecting a different result, then this regulation song and dance is off the mental health charts, and all of Washington, Berlin, London, Paris, Tokyo, etc belongs in a straightjacket with enough thorazine to keep them knocked out for 25 years — except Ron Paul of course.

    Pesky Greeks? If I were Greek, I would go and throw stones, because I have long ago learned that if I scream and shout long enough, they will give in and I will get what I want.
    Quod erat demonstrandum!

  • Josh May 12, 2010, 6:51 am

    The EU/IMF bailout of Greece is not based on some nobel cause to display solidarity amongst the union; this is naked self-interest to protect the banksters who are up to there necks in Greek debt including French, German and US banks. Just another example of socializing the gambling debts of too big to fail banks.

    • ful_karboy May 12, 2010, 7:26 pm

      You nailed it, Josh. Unless bankers and their investors get penalized for lending to those that can’t pay them back, what incentive do they have to avoid the next mess? In the US, bankers have had numerous debacles, lending to south america, housing bubbles etc. As long as the “game” is “heads I win, tails you lose” the taxpayer will always get the short end of the stick. A partial default will not only speed up the recovery process but chastened bankers and their investors MIGHT be wiser next time. This pattern of chasing riskier but higher yields to support tottering bureacracies or short-sighted shareholders has to be reined in.

      Ful

  • cameroni May 12, 2010, 5:23 am

    The article above was submitted as a post two days ago. I will add some commentary to it now that it has become todays article.

    I am just as bearish as most investors these days and cynical of massive spending to resolve debt problems. Ordinarily I would be the first to deride capital controls, bailouts and rescue packages. These are not normal times though. The EU has done the right thing. I do not believe they had any other good options at this time if Union was to be maintained. The region is certainly not unfamiliar with the consequences of instability and knows all too well the tragic outcomes of “Nationalism” and “beggar thy neighbor attitudes”. Those ideas brought us fascism, totalitarianism and the Nazis and resulted in many millions of deaths all over the globe before finally receding from history. Do we really want a repeat of those tragedies?

    History is in some measure what is guiding the EU actions at this time. No German wants to go deep into debt because their neighbors were financially irresponsible, yet so many more are unwilling to revisit the past and see instability on the continent that might trigger the reemergence of Totalitarianism and the horrors that it eventually brings.

    Why are so many so quick to discount the efforts of Governments to cobble together a rescue packages that may in the short term prove beneficial if only that it buys time to implement reforms or to address serious structural challenges. Many of the brightest minds in North America today believe we are headed for an economic depression, hyper-inflation or both and many in the blogosphere lately seem to be taking delight in that outcome. Their attitude is “bring it on”. They brag how they will short the market or make a killing on losses etcetera etcetera.

    Have they lost their minds? Did they skip all their history classes in school? Do they seriously consider that is where we want to go and do they not understand the kind of regimes that arise during periods of extreme uncertainty and economic calamity? That Governments, freedoms and ways of life as we know them can be wiped away and supplanted with a very unpleasant new reality.

    To suggest that Governments today are feeling threatened by current economic trends is perhaps the understatement of the year. Fortunately though they are working together at this juncture instead of competing and I for one appreciate that attempts are being made to formulate a strategy to head off a disaster that so many are certain is coming. The G20 meetings next month should prove pivotal in addressing some of the most serious concerns. And that is why I support the moves in Europe to try to bring some calm back to markets and settle the nerves of the bondholders and why I am prepared to get behind policies that our leadership is now contemplating. There is hope.

    And quite frankly, the world is too big to fail.

    Cam

  • Other Paul May 12, 2010, 4:46 am

    The financial engineers and politicians on both sides of the Atlantic must succeed in:
    1. Making savers, buyers and sellers continue to believe that fiat money has intrinsic value.
    2. Making borrowers (public and private) continue to believe that they have an obligation to pay their debts or fulfill their promises.
    3. Convincing a sufficient number of productive people and non-productive people until 70 years old that self-sacrifice is noble and worthwhile while bankers bat 1.000 and inherit the earth.

  • Oliver May 12, 2010, 4:28 am

    In the Financial Times Deutchland they say twas the e-minis that caused “the plunge”…
    They´re after you, Rick, hear them knocking, already? 🙂

  • Oliver May 12, 2010, 4:05 am

    The sacrifice. Well, well… There is only one problem with that view: we, the people of Europe and the people of Germany very specifically and very loudly, said and warned: but no bail-outs, no messing with finances! Couple times…

    That is the point in trouble. The back checks on our political cronies, the permanent, yea, yea, all will be good-answers.
    And now look. I smell fear and disintergration.
    Merkel will fall. There will be a coup in the CDU any minute. One more not so good election and she´s history.
    It´s the broken promises, which will break their neck now.
    And the first German politician who says, I want out, is chancellor tomorrow, no matter what party.
    You have to be here to feel the explosiveness of the situation.
    I smell real riot stuff in the air.
    Not that we´ll have all `Barnaby Rudge´ hell break loose here all of a sudden…
    “The lord was sincere in his violence and in his wavering. A nature prone to false enthusiasm, and the vanity of being a leader, were the worst qualities apparent in his composition. All the rest was weakness – sheer weakness; and it is the unhappy lot of thoroughly weak men, that their very sympathies, affections, confidences – all qualities which in better constituted minds are virtues – dwindle into foibles, or turn into downright vices.”

    Sounds as if Dickens had a clairvoyance of the EU-`board of directors´…

  • Benjamin May 12, 2010, 2:13 am

    “Now if only those pesky Greek citizens would just get on board and cooperate it just might work.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/02/weekinreview/02marsh.html?ref=weekinreview

    And I suppose if Greece can’t play along, then neither can the others? Of course, that the other PIIGS are in more debt pretty much tells me that Greece probably won’t.

  • PhotoRadarScam May 12, 2010, 1:25 am

    How long will the union last when the stronger countries get tired of bailing out the weaker ones? At least in the US, we are all states and we are probably willing to help out ailing states a lot more than any country’s citizens are going to want to help another country. There are limits to the generosity, and then the riots will start in the strong countries objecting to having their tax dollars spent to bail out others. Heck, maybe US citizens will eventually start to revolt as we continue to see our tax dollars given to irresponsible nations (either directly or through the IMF). Not that the US isn’t doing the same thing, but it’s bad enough that we have to pay for our own over-promised Social Security programs, let alone some other country’s.