Civil War Looms Over State and Local Budgets

Although the news media have tried without success to portray the Tea Partiers as racist right-wing agitators, the movement will only continue to gain strength and mainstream support as state and local budget issues come to a boil.  All politics is local, as they say, and the battle lines are being drawn in cities and towns across the U.S. for what could eventually turn into a civil war between taxpayers and public employees.  Private-sector workers are understandably angered in these very hard times by the unseemly spectacle of government employees fighting to hang onto the outlandish perks and benefits that they’ve long taken for granted – benefits that have in fact helped push many state and local governments to the brink of insolvency.

Photo of Tea Party protest

California is the mine canary on this issue, and the public-employee unions there have been digging in their heels. As reported by our colleague Mish Shedlock, there’s a bill before the Assembly that would make it much more difficult for cities to go bankrupt. Assembly Bill 155 represents, in Mish’s words, an attempt by “outrageously overpaid California public union parasites” to “[suck] the last drop of blood out of every taxpayer.”  Quite so, we fear, since the bill would drastically limit the ability of such seriously beleaguered cities as Los Angeles, Redding, Sacramento and San Diego to enact the drastic measures that alone can bring their operating costs into line with tax revenues.  Reducing what amounts to absurdly generous pensions and health benefits would seem like a no-brainer these days, and it is probably inevitable that this will eventually occur. But for now, the public unions in California and elsewhere have been pushing just one solution: raise taxes. That may be a non-starter for most of us, but it has not kept Assembly Bill 155 from reaching the desk of Gov. Schwarzenegger.

Teacher Pay

Teacher pay and benefits are driving many cities to the wall, and they are surely a factor in having turned the Sage of Omaha, Warren Buffet, bearish on municipal bonds. Buffett went public the other day with predictions of a “terrible problem” for the bonds in coming years.  We don’t know whether Buffett was being obtuse or merely cynical in suggesting that the answer would likely be a Federal bailout of the states and cities. Does he actually think that the “Federal Government” can somehow afford things that will already have bankrupted state and local governments? Buffett may have inadvertently framed the key economic issue of these times:  What kind of recovery are we buying with dollars produced from thin air? If the likes of Warren Buffett cannot understand the fallacy – and ridiculousness – of Uncle Sam somehow coming to the rescue of the cities and states, then what hope is there that the phony recovery’s cheerleaders in Congress and the newsrooms will get it?

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  • George June 5, 2010, 6:35 pm

    A final few thoughts.
    I would agree that public payrolls are bloated. The fact that public employees fight to maximize their returns, however, is individualistic Capitalism, no different than the same desire in the “private” sector.
    HOWEVER – maybe one should ask – WHY is there so much bloat in gov’t employment? Maybe the 1st question is – WHERE have all the private-sector JOBS gone? (And I don’t mean because of this recession).
    In the interest of profits that pump Wall St’s system for higher stock prices, they have been sent offshore. Ross Perot was right about the Great Sucking Sound after Clinton signed NAFTA.
    So who does that leave to hire people when private sector jobs disappear? Gov’t doesn’t want high unemployment numbers – bad for re-election and staying in power. So they are going to expand. Period.

    The systemic problem of encouraging jobs to disappear make Uncle Sam (Fed and local) hirer-of-last-resort.
    And before anyone suggests that US labor needs to equilibrate with the same pay as those in China – think about that same rate for “financial services” workers too.

    &&&&&

    Coolie wages for investment bankers? A capital idea! RA

    • Benjamin June 5, 2010, 9:00 pm

      “Ross Perot was right about the Great Sucking Sound after Clinton signed NAFTA.”

      He was right, but Perot was being short on history . The problem is that of central banking itself, which came about because the United States went imperialist some time 100 to 150 years ago (according to my ongoing estimation).

      “The systemic problem of encouraging jobs to disappear make Uncle Sam (Fed and local) hirer-of-last-resort.”

      Not really. Government capacity is limited as well, despite what the Keynesians think. After which point, we see more GM buy-ups. I suspect that will happen with oil companies drilling in the Gulf, too, though not for the reasons that seem readily apparent. Insurance and the medical industries too, probably. And more.

      That’ll happen at a time when assets are on the down (check), and government is being given money directly by the Fed buyng their Treasuries (check). Ominous signs. But even that isn’t sustainable.

      Anyway, last I heard about China, one of their Honda plants had a workers stirke. I have to snicker at those who said the Chinese were MORE than happy to work for half pennies to the dollar (unlike us no-good lazy Americans). The way they made it out to be, you’d think the poor Chinese workers were paying comapnies for the privilege of working for them! But no, human nature is not a slave. Not for long, anyway.

      As for the financial workers, they’ve been hit by this “recession” as well. Of the 20% or so unemployed in the U.S., they’re in there somewhere. They were given the shaft while their CEOs got a golden parachutte. Not that the industry ever should’ve been that big in the first place. But I suppose since the CEOs realized what was happening (they played their parts, after all), they weren’t going to share those bonuses with anyone. At any rate, there’s no difference between fewer workers making the same or more and more workers making less. So you got your wish. The kick-in-the-balls is, there isn’t anywhere for the displaced workers to go, given how this system “works”.

      Now, you seem to think capitalism is cannibalism, and I can’t blame you given what’s happened. But capitalism is not about sucking out every last penny for one’s self. It’s about the efficiency of capital, which benefits everyone. The idea of “every man for themselves” is just the darker side of human nature. Unfortunately, philosophy and nature share the same brain.

  • George June 5, 2010, 5:18 pm

    “There is no arguing that public payrolls are not fatally bloated. Businesses seem able to make the necessary adjustments when they are in similar straits,”

    Yes – unless they get bailout by government. Then the party goes on as usual. Though maybe those mega-bonuses will eventually trickle down to the public sector. Public payrolls may be bloated, but who wouldn’t fight to keep what they have when witnessing the gross malfeasance in the “private” sector? How about financial companies screwing over municipalities in their bond financing? Yes – Big Bonus Time!

  • George June 5, 2010, 4:37 pm

    Steve is right. Sure labor has got problems, but when Wall St fights for every penny they can get – what is it called? “Capitalism”. Teachers are capitalists too. So what?
    What are the big banks doing? Taking cheap money from the Fed and buying T-Bills. What it a company that actually MADE something like Caterpillar or IBM get .5% interest loans. Think they couldn’t make money? What about people who actually PRODUCE things? But oooo no… labor is to blame. And according to Hank Paulson, these firemen/teachers/policemen etc etc should all be good at deciphering the market too (was Hank also doing a second job as a laborer while at Goldman? If not, he was a lazy bastard then, wasn’t he?) Why not protest to bring back slavery, since that is what you are advocating anyway.

    &&&&&&&

    There is no arguing that public payrolls are not fatally bloated. Businesses seem able to make the necessary adjustments when they are in similar straits, but it will take nothing less than a political revolution to cure the problem in the public sector. RA

    • Martin Snell June 7, 2010, 12:04 am

      ” Businesses seem able to make the necessary adjustments when they are in similar straits”…Really???

      Can we say GM, Chrysler, Bear Sterns, Lehman, Citi, It is not that corporations are that much better, it is just that the stupid ones go bankrupt or get bought out. There is a way to put them out of our misery.

  • Steve June 5, 2010, 7:38 am

    Teachers’ salaries? This is absurd. A hedge fund manager will make a teacher’s annual salary in a week….and pay 15% federal taxes on it. Corporate America has sold us down the river while Wall Street schemes up new products to sell…and then bets against them, and it’s the teachers that are bringing us down?

  • TahoeBilly June 4, 2010, 11:38 pm

    Hanging out with the best looking teacher in Ventura right now…and her time off is my TIME ON, if you get my drift! Gonna have to stay out of this one..:)

  • gary leibowitz June 4, 2010, 11:38 pm

    Mario,

    You don’t have a clue on what you are talking about. You first state that the schools are in the worst economic neighborhoods with large drop-out rates and failing students. Where have you stated that something, anything else, worked? Charter schools have been in existence for years. No unions to worry about. What are their results? How about religious schools? Get the facts and then rant on about those overpaid, underworked teachers.

    Imagine working with 3 year olds and trying to make them climb rope. Stupid idea ain’t it. With students that most probably have lower mental capabilities due to genetics and environment, and parent that refuse to participate in their education, you somehow have the answer to this problem.

    Why isn’t there a great oversupply of demand for such an easy job? Why are there such high attrition rates in the first 5 years on the job? How can you expect teachers to perform under conditions where NO ONE can. Yup, no one. Given the same circumstance I guarantee NO ONE will do better. That means you have to take everyone and anyone regardless of behaviour or ability. That menas you are forced to teach by board guidelines.

    Try being a teacher in these schools and write your atricle then.

    Why not blame the parents? Not politically correct? Give me a break!

    • Benjamin June 5, 2010, 8:51 am

      I wouldn’t say he’s full of crap, as the critique is along the right lines. However…

      An extra 25 minutes? And how did she arrive at this conclusion? I’ll tell you where she got it: From her derriere. She just thought more time = better kids because it sounded good. After all, if it’s not more money, then it _must be_ more time, right? Sure it is, because less time and money would be lazy kids, lazy parents, and lazy teachers!

      But what it is that “small investment for great returns” also known as tinkering on the margins because this bold plan would add up to only 3 1/8 extra days of education every year. Over the entire 12 years, that’s a whoping 37.5 days extra. And even with a full hour of tutoring, that wouldn’t be much more at 7.5 days of additional schooling every year, or 90 days over 12 years. The number of days in a typical 12 year education is 720. So she’s meeting 50% failure with an 18% increase. If she was going to meet 50% with 50% more time, she would have to increase the school day by four hours. And unless this a Hollywood script, 12 hours a day would probably have the opposite effect considering that the kids already don’t much care for 8 hour days.

      “Teacher, unless we have more time in the classroom, we refuse to do any work!”

      See?! I told you the whole idea is idiotic!

      As for the rest, it’s just for the appearance of dedication, feel-good nonsense.

      We aren’t going wrong in the branches. Where we went wrong was when the United States decided to step in and fill the void left by the British empire. We became a crusading, do-gooder military super-power which, being the expensive thing that it is, had to rely on entitlement programs to try and make up for the waste. As that caused jobs and life to slide away, we blamed a lack of education and lazy everything. So we broke ourselves trying to fix a problem that quite simply wasn’t there before and in fact was never there _at all_. Well, we learned what we apparently didn’t know, but the the lesson hasn’t sunk in yet.

      “Why not blame the parents? Not politically correct? Give me a break!”

      No, I won’t give you break because the PC thing today is NOT bad parents and lazy kids. The teachers are overpaid, but that’s a direct of result of ever assuming there was a problem in kids’ brains. And it is just a symptom that will in time correct itself.

      What is PC today is precisely what you call unPC. What’s PC is never looking at this “problem” in entirely different light, or i.e., being lazy about it and making mere assumptions instead of using our brains to see clearly what is.

  • George June 4, 2010, 10:42 pm

    Thank you fallingman – you do not come across as a partisan hack.

    BUT – I WAS paying attention. And I am paying attention now to ACTIONS rather than tripe. Oust Reid – good. McConnell and Boehner ? Bueller?…Bueller…? Nada.
    ALSO – did you notice that Ron Paul was persona non grata in the GOP convention? Meanwhile – who was walking the convention floor freely and talking to the press? Yes – Ralph Reed, Time magazine’s “Right Hand of God”. A man whom Jack Abramoff called “a bad version of us”. This is the GOP – slime sellouts. The DNC is no better. Who voted for and against Sen. Sanders amendment? Who is helping Sen Kaufman?
    TeaPartiers must feel sorry for Boehner when he almost wept on the Senate floor, crying to bail out the banks. Is all forgiven there?

  • fallingman June 4, 2010, 9:19 pm

    Who is “they?” Again , you conflate the Tea Party with the Republican Party. There’s actually quite a bit of contempt for the Republican Party “leadership” and record of governance within the Tea Party. Did you know that? Does it surprise you?

    Also, if you hadn’t noticed, Rand Paul just buried McConnell’s (Goldman Sach’s/AIG’s) boy, Trey Grayson, in the Republican primary in Kentucky. There’s a war going on in the Republican party pal. Not every Republican is corporatist slime…just most of them, who you rightly condemn.

    “Where was the outrage in the Republican party?” Good question. Most stuck by their moronic “leader” and defended the indefensible. because he was their boy and the other side was the bogeyman. But the outrage was there. It was centered in the Ron Paul Revolution, which was predictably ignored…then ridiculed when they couldn’t ignore it any longer…then attacked. I’m sure you’re familiar with that time-honored counter-insurgency strategy. It worked. You either weren’t paying attention or it wasn’t your fault…the MSM suppressed the message successfully enough that you never heard it. Bottom line: Ron Paul …Independent-minded Republican bitterly criticized Bush on issue after issue, across the board. THAT is where the outrage was. The other Presidential contenders were, indeed, lapdogs.

    Pay attention. Make some distinctions before you spread a blanket generalization over a complex subject.
    You make some good points and then negate them with the wild-eyed, black and white, partisan hooey. Yes, Bush was an abomination. Got it. We were saying so from the beginning of the chimp’s rule and the imposition of the steel tariffs. Obama … also an abomination. Both wholly-owned subsidiaries of the Goldman/Morgan/Big Pharma/Big Ag/Mainstream Media/Military Industrial privileged insider elite machine. Big surprise. The question is, “Now what?” Playing silly two party political games won’t cut it and the problems are intractable.

    The Tea Party…the political equivalent of spitting in the soup…aside, the corporatist machine has won. Goldman, Morgan, and the Fed uber alles.

    We’re just so screwed.

    Hold some gold and pray you come out the other side.

    • Robert June 5, 2010, 12:18 am

      “But the outrage was there. It was centered in the Ron Paul Revolution, which was predictably ignored…then ridiculed when they couldn’t ignore it any longer…then attacked. I’m sure you’re familiar with that time-honored counter-insurgency strategy. It worked. ”

      -hmmm. Only time will tell how well it worked. My Jedi mind powers tell me it only served to delay the inevitable…

      It was Gandhi who said “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.”

      The Tea-Party movement is simply the staging of the troops. Anyone who thinks the fight has begun has obviously never been in a real fight.

      The attempt by the Repubs to harness the energy of the Libertarian Tea Partiers will blow by as effortlessly as the the efforts by the “Salad Tossers” (Thanks Randy!) to discredit the Tea Party movement via CNN and MSNBC.

      Don’t you people get it? There is what’s real, and there is what’s on TV, and never these twins shall meet…

  • George June 4, 2010, 8:59 pm

    Oh come-on Benjy….
    And why aren’t McConnell and Boehner targeted to be ousted? Hmmm? There is a Youtube video of Boehner begging to bail out the banks in ‘o8. Poor man is almost in tears. Yes, bailing out the big banks is Capitalism, not Socialism. TeaParty protests in front of big banks? Nah – they give too much money to elected friends.

    • Benjamin June 5, 2010, 1:20 am

      Benjy?! What’s wrong with Benjamin Buttons? 🙂

      (Which is kind of fitting, seeing as I’m in that kind of mode today, and there is a movie called Benjamin Buttons, I think. And isn’t the Tea Party supposed to be nothig but a bunch of angry, mean old men?)

      I could give rats rears about McConnel’s Tears. Just because he thinks this or that doesn’t mean everyone of us must be behind him. What, you think you’re the only one who can see through all this because…?

      Well, I don’t know why you’d be the only one.

  • Benjamin June 4, 2010, 8:39 pm

    “But the TeaParty “movement” didn’t exist until AFTER GWB left office. Why?”

    Oh, come on Georgy-Porgy… It is for the same reason that colonists weren’t always rebelling. People on the individual as well as collective level have their breaking points. What you’re arguing is that the founders were really good loyalists, all of them.

  • George June 4, 2010, 8:21 pm

    fallingman
    I am not a fan of the DNC. The GOP and DNC are owned and operated by the same money-contributors. But the TeaParty “movement” didn’t exist until AFTER GWB left office. Why? Where was the outrage before then? Or was everything hunky-dory? If I were the GOP (who didn’t even invite a sitting President to their own convention – 1st time in history?) I would want to divorce myself from my own indefensible silence for 8 years while trying to make a comeback through a side-door.
    When they start working to kick out McConnel and/or Boehner with Reid, MAYBE they will earn some legitimacy. Until then, ho-hum. Same old-same-old…

  • fallingman June 4, 2010, 6:17 pm

    Thanks DG. Uh huh.

    To Martin Snell and George:

    Look, I can understand your irritation and vitriol if you conflate the Tea Party movement with pro-Bush sentiments, which you obviously do. You guys have drunk the DNC koolaid on this one. You don’t understand what’s going on, so you have to come up with an interpretation that fits your preconceived worldview.

    If I might offer some observations from my perspective:

    1) The Tea Party “movement” hardly qualifies as anything very organized. It’s an amorphous thing attracting people of very different persuasions, who have coalesced around a few simple ideas, mainly that government is out of control. It’s borrowing and printing and spending too much. It’s overreaching and doing things these people don’t like. It doesn’t represent the people who pay the bills. They have no voice.

    2) The Tea Party got its start on CNBC when Rick Santelli went on a rant about the bailout of imprudent mortgage borrowers. It attracted a big libertarian contingent immediately. I went to one rally. Pathetic in its disorganization. What I saw was a lot of good, earnest but very mild-mannered, non-descript, everyday middle-American folks who mostly just stood there. These people clearly have no experience agitating for anything. But they had had enough, so they decided to show up. Have GOP elements tried to co-opt whatever this thing is? Yeah. Unfortunately, so your criticisms aren’t entirely unfounded.

    3) Ron and Rand Paul or Sarah Palin…that seems to be the division. Very different. I, personally, have nothing but contempt for Bush…a high functioning moron…the smirking chimp…a statist…and Dick ball and Cheney, that viper McCain, and Palin…McConnell, Lindsey Graham, etc. I oppose all big government schemes, be they welfare or warfare-related or simply corporatist power and money grabs. So, do you want to insult ME now or or not?

    How about including a little nuance in your thinking instead constructing black and white, two-dimensional carricatures centered around the silliness of party politics.

    3) You’re right in a way when you comment on the socialism poster. That guy probably has a limited understanding of socialism. If he could articulate it, he probably did mean dictionary-definition socialism, where the state takes over and controls the means of production. GM, Fannie, Freddie, Citi, AIG, etc. etc. But only partly. Mostly what he’s pissed about is corporatism, fascism…call it what you will, where ownership remains in the hands of private interests, but government becomes a “partner”…protecting, directing, subsidizing, guaranteeing, bailing out.

    I suspect you would not be that keen on that kind of corporate coddling were it not for the fact that your guy, Barackarama, is doing it. When Bush did it, I decried it. When Obama does it, I decry it. As the poster says, OBAMA IS BUSH 2.0.

    4) Can’t anybody who defends the state and public education spell? It’s their not thier, it’s their, and it’s laissez-faire not laisse faire. Yeah, laissez faire = Freedom. Too bad we’ve never seen it, and if you conflate Bush II regime with anything resembling laissez-faire, you are beyond clueless. And to dip into the particulars of partisan politics for just a moment, where exactly do you think Robert Rubin, Summers, and the rest of the Clinton financial insider (fascist) elite were standing when Brooksley Born at the CFTC was proposing shining some light on derivative trading? Squarely in the way! So, please, no more “they are bad, we are good” nonsense. A pox on both their houses.

    5) As a former University professor, I really applaud the people that are loudly criticizing the “education” system in this country. It’s a fraud. The great majority of young people…good kids…coming into my classroom weren’t ready for the 8th grade! It was shocking. They had no clue about anything. I couldn’t mention the Decaration of Independence. They had no real idea what it was. Refer to Napoleon or Nixon? Forget it. No idea. Who won the civil war? Uhhhhh. Who did we fight in the The Second World War? Uhhhh. Which countries border the United States? Uhhhhh. I had BRIGHT kids who couldn’t spell the word intelligent. Yeah, it really is that bad.

    We have to undertake the boldest possible mission and work like hell to separate education and the state. And we have to find a way to do it so that everybody has access to a REAL education, not the phony indoctrination and socialization they get in its place today. We can’t leave minorities and the poor to be victimized by the state in the name of “helping” them. There’s been way too much of that already.

    Last thing. When you don’t understand your opponent and especially when you underestimate him, you set yourself up for one hell of a surprise. A jumbo-sized can of whup-ass has been opened and, as we say in the south, we’re fixin’ to serve it to ya.

    • Martin Snell June 6, 2010, 11:58 pm

      A few thoughts

      1. I don’t support either party. I tend to look for the grey in things – I hate following anybody’s party line. That is part of what has helped me survive these markets all these years. I screamed against Bush from early on (heck I thought Reagan’s “deficits don’t matter” was nuts way back when), and I rant against Obama for lacking imagination in cleaning up the horrible mess that was left to him.

      2. The teabaggers, perhaps because of their “lack of organization” do come across as a media creation (Foxaganda) capitalizing on racist tendencies (Ron Paul etc). As a result it is very easy to pick out any number of nutballs in the movement (Palin etc). Kind of like shooting fish in a barrel.

      3. The problem is that government should not be the only target of the rage. The main problem is a kind of fascism. Big money runs the system. There need to be real campaign spending limits, real limits on lobbying, real limits on campaign advertising, easier alternate party access, and term limits. The recent Supreme Court decision on corporate campaign funding was a disgrace.

      4. Finally I maintain that there is something to the “angry white men” theory. Conservatives (and I would bet you would have a hard time finding many liberals at a Tea Party event) tend not to like change, but like it or not we live in a time of rapid change. Liberals on the other hand see change as “interesting”, not something that must be feared. For an interesting video check out Jonathan Haidt on the moral roots of liberals and conservatives. http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind.html

  • mario cavolo June 4, 2010, 6:09 pm

    I had posted this story of the greedy teachers at Central Fall’s High School getting their asses deservedly fired by Superintendent Frances Gallo…as the article makes clear, let’s wish them luck replacing their $70,000 per year plus benefits jobs because they didn’t want to work an extra couple of hours a week….here’s the link…Cheers, Mario

    http://www.mariocavolo.com/?p=717&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

  • Steve June 4, 2010, 5:53 pm

    Why is it that every time I write a long RANT it disappears when I punch Submit in anger.

    Wrote a long one on United States Statue I, Title 10, obligation of Public Education to see the children are trained to become citizens. Title 10 says a requirement of, or; to be, or become a citizen is dependent upon defending the Nation with Arms. That all at age 16 are the unorganized militia and must be trained, and armed to become citizens. Now why didn’t your democratic treacher trech that instead of mobocracy ?

  • John June 4, 2010, 4:56 pm

    Benjamin
    The Teabagger Medicare argument is a crock! Why? You are force to pay into an IRA or 401K. Where is the complaint about Wall St ripping retirement/pensions off? None. Nada. Silence. Just bail out the banks and call it Capitalism. The silence about the Socialist starting point is deafening.

    • Benjamin June 4, 2010, 6:57 pm

      John, why are you jumping on me for not writing a book about everything? Snell and the other guy asked about medicare, Bush, and the wars. I felt I should limit my response to that, which, to most people, would be the sensible thing to do.

      And I can only go by what people relate to me, as well what I myself think. And speaking of bailouts… I know of few that ever supported them. As I said, I wouldn’t make the mistake of accepting Palin, FOX, and their left-leaning image-creators for what the Tea Party is all about. People are fed up, and as Rand Paul put it… We’re not going to mince words. We’re going to take our country back. I sometimes fall into that trap, myself, though, but this isn’t exactly a clear-cut thing. People of all stripes are mad over one thing or another, and since one human alone has millions of brain cells, we’ve declillions of cells and connections creating thoughts and opionions and misconceptions and clarities on the many things we face. If it doesn’t ALL agree with you, well… I don’t know to tell you that I already haven’t.

  • Rantly McTirade June 4, 2010, 4:34 pm

    I haven’t taken part in any Tea Party activities because I’m afraid they’ll be coopted or simply taken over by professional Republicans. But I’m sick of hearing ‘Teabagger’, so I suggest those who use that term now be referred to, along similar lines, as….
    ‘SaladTossers’.
    And our private sector bureaucracies(businesses at the roughly $50 Mil. annual revenue and up level) are no more useful to society at present than the public ones. They need to be hiring Americans, and plenty of them-or their managers need to feel a huge amount of pain on a personal level. If Obozo wasn’t a FIRE economy rented sock puppet, he’d have demonized H-P’s head hack Mark Hurd from the bully pulpit and invited the public to do the same-and via back channels advised Hurd that he’d use every tool available to fully destroy Hurd & his family’s current life & any future hope, and ensure other top corporate bureaucrats got the same message, unless Hurd abjectly cancelled HP’s layoff announcement(while making a good profit) of earlier this week and clearly committed to adding 5,000 American jobs in the next year, with Obozo committing to updating the public on H-P’s progress every week.

  • Richard June 4, 2010, 4:31 pm

    Benjamin

    Correction/Update

    Central Bank Buying Is Poised to Start in Earnest

    Central Banks used to be net sellers of gold. That all changed in 2009 due to a couple of factors.

    First, central banks in Russia, China, India and other emerging countries needed to balance out their vast U.S. dollar reserves, and the easiest way to do that was to buy gold.

    Second, as the financial crisis reared its ugly head last year, central bankers that used to be sellers — many of them across Europe — stopped selling because they needed hard assets in case of a run on the bank.

    Now, central banks are net buyers — to the tune of about 425 metric tonnes last year. The reason is simple: If their fiat (paper) currencies are sliding lower, the easiest way to prop them up is with gold.

  • Richard June 4, 2010, 4:16 pm

    Education:

    A much more difficult profession than stated by many here.
    Real solutions:

    Let’s dump the overhead – FIRST- The Department of Education, it is a failure as the return on investment is non-existant.
    Second: States also need to streamline the ‘big-wigs’ in number and pay and consolidate the duplicity in the entire system, i.e.; too many chiefs. Pay and benefits should be equal to the non-government employees and Congress should have the same pay structure as private industry. Keep everyone on an equal benefits footing.

    Lots to do! Charge!!

  • Richard June 4, 2010, 4:08 pm

    Benjamin:

    Central Banks have been selling Gold for a very long time and a very, very few have started to purchase any, and when they do, which is almost never, it is definitely not frequently. Also, they pay market price and not $ 40/oz. The largest recent purchase was India, at about 200 tonnes. Sounds like a lot of Gold doesn’t it, but it is less than $ 8 billion dollars worth, peanuts in a world with about a $ 70 trillion dollar GDP and a quadrillion dollars worth of derivatives. You were worried about an over production of Gold. It takes years and lots of money to develop a producing mine, but only a push of a button and no real money to create 100s of billions of wothless ‘fiat’ paper currency.

  • Richard June 4, 2010, 3:55 pm

    Benjamin:

    Do some research and you will find that all the gold suppossedly held by the USA is less than $ 315 billiion at today’s pricing. This amount only covers the deficit for January with about $ 100 billion left over. $ 320 billion is not even twice the deficit for the month of June, 2009. At $ 40/oz the good old USA has only enough gold to pay for just a few hours of its rapidly accummulating deficit. Loose the $ 40 0z figure, it is not applicable to anything in the real world.

    Official Gold Holdings
    by Country*
    Country Metric Tonnes Percent of Reserves
    USA 8,133.5 78.3
    Germany 3,412.6 69.5
    Italy 2,451.8 66.1
    France 2,450.7 73.0
    China 1,054.0 1.8
    Switzerland 1,040.1 37.1
    Japan 765.2 2.1
    Netherlands 612.5 61.4
    ECB 501.4 18.3
    Russia 536.9 4.0
    * World Gold Council, June 20, 2009

    • Benjamin June 4, 2010, 6:41 pm

      I know, Richard. And I did say it was quite possibly my mind spinning some fiction.

      But they are good liars, and who can really say for certain what is and what isn’t?

      Regardless, they have a lot of gold, and they didn’t earn it through producing anything of any value. If nothing else, what there is can be reavlued to pay people back what was taken from them.

  • gary leibowitz June 4, 2010, 3:01 pm

    Outragous! In the last 30 years I never heard anyone complain that they weren’t working for the government or a union.

    Reminds me of the riots in new York during the Civil War. The rich were able to buy their way out of serving the war. The frustration built where the dumb masses blamed the blacks for their problem and went on a lynching spree. There was anger also thrown at the rich but they didn’t get the brunt of the violence.

    Lets bring some facts into this mess. Private sectors have been allowed to fire in mass the higher paying workers to be replaced by younger ones. In my firm there was over a 25 percent drawdown in the work force over the last 2 years even as they hire college grads at less then half the salaries.

    Does anyone remember why unions became so popular in the first place? I am amazed that as corporate america looks out for itself private citizens start blaming the unions for their problems. Those fat lazy unions workers that sit around doing nothing and making a ton of money. Just ask the MTA in New York how the unions made out. Ask the Teachers Union that today is getting the brunt of the blame. If you want to blame the teachers then also blame the charter schools who can cherry pick their students and who still have test scores statistically identical to the public schools. Check out the parent participation in your schools and you will notice a stiking coorelation between better test scores and higher parent participation. Ever wonder why over 50 percent of all new teachers drop out in the first 5 years?

    Ever wonder why the governments stats show union workers usually get paid less then the private sector but get more in compensation?

    The greedy banks, brokerage firms, insurance companies, drug companies, oil companies seem to get a free pass while as a result of their “capitalistic” nature the dumb ass unions are stuck with this mess. Imagine blaming the Auto workers for the down fall of that industry. Don’t let facts get in the way of reality. The disparity between non-union auto workers and union workers were negligible.

    Here is a prediction that you might not like:
    As we fall into a world wide economic depression union membership will soar and legislative laws thought of as socialist (communist) will be passed.

    On a side note about the market: Looks like the bottom of the SPX could easily hit the 1022 mark your analysis projects. According to elliot wave this should happen by the 10th of this month. This scneario is almost exactly a replay of 1930 in projection points, not time scale.

    • Chris T. June 4, 2010, 6:05 pm

      “Does anyone remember why unions became so popular in the first place?”

      In the private sector, for ex. coal-mining yes. There was abuse, poor conditions, wage slavery, etc.

      None of that was ever the case with teachers, or other public sector unions.
      There it was always and only about money, money, etc.
      How do unions help?
      NOT by collective bargaining per-se, but by the threat of striking.
      And THAT is illegal in most cases for public sector employees, for teachers in NJ, most certainly.
      So who really needs the unions?
      Many teachers don’t, which is why they don’t join, but the union’s stooge written law, makes those teachers pay to the unions even so.

      And lets not forget, when teachers strike, they strike agains US, their employers, and it is always and only OUR money they take, not some third party corporation.

  • jp June 4, 2010, 2:23 pm

    “…up their salary for this monumental yet ultimately meaningless task”
    Sir, if you believe that educating children is meaningless, I would suggest that you have a myopic perspective, most likely the fruit of the labors of those charged with educating YOU…

    • Benjamin June 4, 2010, 6:37 pm

      Oh, and you know the trees from the forest do ya?

      Well, maybe you do. But it’s easy to think so as long as one never does any comparing. So to assist you with that, here’s my perspective as to why it’s meaningless and wasted effort…

      If we don’t focus on making every kid at minimum a silver medalist, then none of our kids will be fit enough to clip the toe-nails on the dogs belonging to our Japanese bosses (I’m of the class of ’94, and back then it was Russians (still) and the Japanese).

      But did anyone ever bother to tell the kids that “competitiveness” had more to do with currency values than math grades? Look carefully, and the malinvestment becomes apparent. As jobs slipped away in the game of currencies, people blammed lack of education. Yet, the number one rule of markets is that when things are distorted, malinvestment is the result. Your average arm-chair free marketeer, though, looks at it more narrowly. America didn’t deserve the jobs because their kids are stupid, which was directly attributable to their parents yelling at their teachers about making their kids smarter (which, when you think about it, doesn’t make a lick of sense, especially considering that many parents over the decades have been quite demanding of their kids. If some complained… but there’s always some, which only takes us back to the point I made to David: BIG WHOOP!).

      None the less, things have changed since my time spent in the Japanese molding factories, albeit in a twisted, lobsided manner in the other direction. The teachers are still being paid bigger bucks, but how I understand it, they aren’t even teaching kids the ABCs. This is the correction stage in action. As we expeirenced the up-shot of “capitalism”, we come to experience the down-side, in all of it’s ugly glory. The momentum of bad investment is just pressurizing into the ugly head before it finally bursts like a nasty, plague-filled boil. What will happen afterwords is that they’ll take the cuts and quit and the system will be caput. Anything else is an attempt to delay the inevitable. That is the outcome because…

      It’s not a matter of public vs private. I had friends from Catholic schools that didn’t even know how to use a calculator to compensate for their poor mathmatical abilities. Same thing in the public system which I spent my years in.

      It isn’t even a matter of a good teacher being able to inspire. I’ve had good teachers, even inside the public system, but you know what? They never could make kids who didn’t care give a hoot because the kids weren’t open to it. The idea that all it takes is a good mind-opener is another lie that can look true only because it sometimes appears that teachers are doing it (when it’s the kids that are, not them).

      It isn’t even a matter of competition driving the absolute best out of all of us. Human nature is such a thing that we’ll STILL have mediocrities and shortcomings in a free market. People will still suffer thier humanity, as some drive to experience it’s rewards. Many will be the middle road, probably. No amount of competition or retooling or anything else is ever going to change that axiom: only if people want to, of their own free will, will they be educated and driven to excel for themselves.

      So there it is, my twisted PC-educated psychology. The thing is, though, not many will say anything remotely close to that, which leaves no question in my mind where I’m coming from.

    • Steve June 4, 2010, 6:42 pm

      jp,

      Sir, I would suggest the hypocritical bigotry of liberalism by public education brainwashing proves the point about the product that knows nothing of obligations and everything of the belief the federal government is the answer.

      Education is the most important Thing for the National Treasure Children. Yet, it remains the responsibility of the Parent, not; the Federal Government teaching mobocracy and anarchy to the Nation. The federal government has an obligation under United States Statue I, Title 10 to ensure each child knows he is the unorganized militia, or he is not a citizen by positive act of rebellion against the Nation. It is the obligation of each Citizen on a several State to be armed with current military arms to defend the Nation against democracy.

      90 million Citizens, 210 million democratic corporate enfrancisees who deny their obligation to the People.
      Who is going to win the election – those 210 non-Citizen enfranchisees of federal citizenship in rebellion, or the 90 obeying the Law on the several States?

      The Federal Government is in Breach, and most parents are in breach 90/210. You are right jp and I’m glad you used the word myopic perspective to prove my point. Public Education by the Federal Government is brainwashing to anarchy and mobocracy. Parents – Stand UP and do your job to education your child in the Republic, Rules, Order, and Respect for the Unalienable Rights of Man. Otherwise the myopia is in believing the Federal Government is not in treasonous designs against the Republic and Freedom as secured.

      Why jp, even the word liberal is an oxymoron as taught in public education. Yep ! bankrupt everyone so that ya gut ur shar of the py of evryuns hard wurk fur techum mobocracy.

      Teaching YOUR children is hard work for YOU – nearsighted use of public teachers is just LAZY !

  • Goodsport June 4, 2010, 1:38 pm

    A family member is a special needs teacher. It is easy to generalize. There is a lot of paperwork. If the job is done right, a lot of after hours time is required. The unions are too powerful – incompetent teachers should be let go. The pols will always go after the visible activities that affect people. In our town hall, there is a tremendous amount of admin / secretarial help doing tasks that should be automated. The cities, towns and states need to cooperate and share databases and become more efficient. And wages / benefits need to be reviewed in terms of current market conditions. For example – here in Taxachusetts toll takers get $70k a year. Try getting that salary in a supermarket to make change and hand out register receipts.

  • John June 4, 2010, 1:26 pm

    I’m in an area with a bunch of old hippies, musicians, “artists” etc. who just learned that Aesop’s Grasshopper and Ant story isn’t a fable. The ideological confusion over the movement resisting further financial and fiscal tyranny is revealing of a person’s sense regarding who gets the productive goodies. I think those who’ve fiddled while the ants toiled are seriously concerned that they will soon be cut off and prefer to broad-brush the movement and focus on those who have decided to act to cut them off instead of realizing that their champion Obama lured them into a backwater brawl I call Hope-A-Dope. The grasshoppers I know pretty well are “cocooning” at this point and none of them are even talking about the wars or anything of relevance. They’re acting more infantile than ever and are seeking some nostalgic escape in activities like camping out for a month at the Kerrville Folk Festival. These are folks on food stamps! Maybe their last fling before it gets real?

  • Jeff Kahn June 4, 2010, 1:24 pm

    It doesn’t take much guts to kick a teacher right now, especially when there’s an institutionalized contempt for education in this country. Lazy greedy teachers. Out of touch professors in their ivory towers.. The ivy leagues are filled with socialists. Scientists are all lazy dishonest grant hogs. Doctorate degrees are for jerks who can’t make it in the real world. The airwaves are filled with experts who haven’t even finished high school. And then we wonder why the country has become brain dead.

    • Steve June 4, 2010, 4:59 pm

      Five years ago I had a discussion with a PHD who worked at NASA. They had just had a meeting because no young people coming up in the education system had any imagination. They feared that the system had failed. That the children were fed tripe instead of creating at a young age. He feared we were progressing into the Russian Model where everyone just did what they were told, and if the leader fell, the body did not know what to do. The American edge of Creativity has failed. I have friends who are teachers, and to a one they are cowards too afraid of loosing the benefits to stand up for wrong.

  • Benjamin June 4, 2010, 6:33 am

    I wouldn’t be so hasty to associate the entire “Tea Party” with the neo-cons either because for one, I know a few personally (not internet friends, ie). They especially didn’t like the patriot act, the wars, and a couple are 9/11 truthers. No, they weren’t always “tea baggers”. They joined up with that movement, given the general sentiment of said movement. As for the ones I know only through the ‘net, there’s plenty more anti-right than there is purely anti-left.

    And the medicare part isn’t so hard to understand, once you realize what their complaints are. They were forced to pay into it, therefore they want something to show for it. They may or may not approve of medicare, but that’s pretty much what it comes down to. And needless to say, they don’t feel confident that Obamacare will provide them with equall or better tha what a broken medicare system might have provided or that compensation they seek.

    That’s human nature, gentleman. If you’re forced to pay for something, you should expect something back. And not to put too fine a point on it, but where is most of the gold? And how did it get there?

    It’s in the central bank vaults. There’s been so much gold taken from the ground over the last 50 years or so, that sometimes I wonder if their ~$40/oz valuation isn’t accurate. The whole point of central banking is to suck up real wealth, and they’ve done this by driving the mining industry to take it out almost faster than they could sell it (Barrick-style). And I suspect they don’t really create money out of thin air. They might do so until the gold stops flowing into their vaults, at which point they might cause hyper-inflation in order to confuse matters beyond all hope of untangling the mess.

    That much is a pure guess, but they do have gold that they never rightly earned, and people are owed what they were forced to pay in for social security and medicare. The gold ain’t going anywhere, so maybe the Tea Party will have time to figure this out on a more uniform level. I’m no neo-con, Palin-revering, half-assed hypocrite, but I sure wouldn’t trust the lefties to ever make things right. I’d rather support the Tea Party through illustrating the root causes, and presenting the solutions that would really end Big Government.

    You casual and thoroughly unamuzing bashers, on the other hand, aren’t doing anything but alienating them by calling them names and doubting their sincerity at every turn, while refusing to even entertain the idea that real freedom can work (or maybe that you should just move to Europe, if you ever want to be happy). Way to make a difference. Your mothers must be proud.

    • Steve June 4, 2010, 4:55 pm

      All that has been lacking is a “LEADER”. A real Man, who has a Stand based in an immutable Law. Find that Moral Leader, and the masses with so up. The Tea Party is just a beginning. The real issue is whether or not the People will stand up and punish the open confessions in the Court of the United States of HIGH TREASON on Money. My dad had it right “Look at the Money and you will understand”.

      Look at the Constitution and money, and the fact no one would say F.D.R. was a traitor when he created the gold dollar, and finished the territorial powers of the legislative body allowing no person to have Constitutional Rights. The citizens of territory have no Constitutional Rights owing all of their existence to the powers of congress creating it. Know the district of OR, and the federal military war zone 97204 ?

    • Rich June 4, 2010, 9:56 pm

      FDR abolished the domestic gold dollar in effect since the Constitution Article I Section 9 and Mint Act of 1792…

  • DG June 4, 2010, 5:43 am

    Martin: I wish folks would drop the sophomoric “Teabagger” innuendo. Hardy har, har. Just so we are all on the same page, go to your urban dictionary for clarification:
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabag
    It is vulgar, and a childish attempt to dismiss a group that is attempting to sincerely right some wrongs. I’ll let the age, race and gender slander slide. Lumping them in with supporting Bush is also grossly incorrect. I am sure there are a few who did, but Ron Paul was one of the few Republicans who neither supported the war in Iraq, nor the insane deficit spending.
    Two weeks ago Willie Brown (D) admitted that he was a principal architect in constructing California’s demise. He didn’t mean to. He just “didn’t do the math.”
    That’s great. Why budget at all?
    To say this is done in a democracy is simply nonsense. The elections are bought and paid for by special interest and now the public unions are so bloated that they can throw their weight around and pretty much bully any candidate out they choose. Ditto for corporate influence. It is a broken political system and neither party represents folks that are concerned.
    But it all costs money. Even Rome ran out of money. Either through default or devaluation, the public coffers will die. We’ll see who is smug then.
    I just wish a few democrats would grow a pair (no ‘bagging please) and give this President some grief about the insane fiscal irresponsibility, the continued war which they hated so much when it was W’s, and the obvious corporate cronyism. You know, the things Obama said he would not do if elected. If they feel uncomfortable doing this as democrats, maybe they should join the Tea Party.

    • Robert June 4, 2010, 11:31 pm

      Here- Here DG!

      Anyone who denigrades Libertarians using vulgar innuendo, and then try to play the “Where were they when W was running the show” card are not looking at the fact that the D-team has had the majority in both houses for nearly 4 years, and the WH for over a year, yet Americans dying in Iraq and Afghanistan continues merrily along….

      Hypocrites, blinded by their own self-righteousness.

  • George June 4, 2010, 5:23 am

    Martin Snell – you go that right. Teabaggers were silent in BushTime because their boy was in the WH. Now they complain about government – but don’t go talking about touching their Medicare. Funding the Iraq War on America’s credit card was a-ok at the time. The 2nd term of Cheney/Bush was bound to be disastrous for the country, as they crooks could go to town on the country. Remember “Some people call you ‘the haves’, and the ‘have mores’. I call you my base.” (Bush) No? Don’t remember? You must be a teabagger.

    • Steve June 4, 2010, 4:50 pm

      I’m as conservative as they get. George Bush was a disappointment, and turned out to be a criminal.

      But, what of the Obama who will not prosecute the crimes.

      There are not two parties – only one party under “The Prince”. Read the book and then get a life. The U.S. is a corrupt corporation “. . .in rebellion. . .” by a people who refused to fight corruption over a 100 years ago. Ya all go along.

    • Chris T. June 4, 2010, 5:36 pm

      Well, if both of you were talking about those that were there at the beginning of the T-Bs, and still a substantial portion,
      THEY DID complain about George Bush and his policies.
      It is undeniable that Ron Paul and his supporters were the seed, and THEY DID complain, so you are wrong there.
      Many times, Ron Paul was the ONLY one complaining, just look at the 433-1 votes in the House.

      Those teabaggers, that did support W+Dick, are part of the movement (led by these self same Republocrats) to co-opt the T-B’s away from their libertarian roots.
      Of course there are the assorted disgruntled lot, that is incapable of thinking, for them you are right.
      But your blanked statement is wrong.

  • JohnJay June 4, 2010, 4:30 am

    Public school financing is such a sad joke.
    Our whole society lives in fantasyland now.
    I stopped going to the movies a while ago, everyone has characters with some sort of superpowers, or is a vampire or talks to ghosts and CG is a substitute for plot.
    TV is more of the same, everyone is competing to be a fashion model or a great singer or dancer or a millionaire for Trump.
    It all makes McHale’s Navy or F Troop seem like Shakespeare.
    The whole housing debacle was just a reflection of our fantasy based society.
    Wall Street and the Fed is more of the same.
    MP and the Holy Grail had the answer: “Run away!”

  • Martin Snell June 4, 2010, 3:44 am

    Interesting sign – “Socialism is not Freedom”. Not sure what it means. Also pretty sure the guy that wrote it doesn’t really know what socialism is. I sure do know that laisse-faire capitalism is also not freedom.

    The last time I checked all those cities and states having budget problems all had elected governments. Democracy (corporatocracy?) filled the council/legislative seats. This situation was not caused by an undemocratic system – which perhaps highlights that beloved democracy is not also without its faults.

    As for the tea baggers I would really like to know where they were while Bush was bankrupting the place. I’m guessing they were probably too busy enjoying their tax cuts to figure out that there is never a free lunch. The unnecessary war in Iraq cost real money and real lives. The lack of regulation of the financial industry cost real money and ruined real lives.

    While the teabaggers are right to call for fiscal sanity they are very late to the party, and unfortunately are mostly angry old white men who seem most upset that they no longer run the place (perhaps more upset about that than the fiscal mess).

    • Steve June 4, 2010, 4:47 pm

      Article IV, sec. 2, Const. U.S. A.D. 1787

      It is a Republic. Madison penned the Constitution and in the Federalist Papers relayed that a democracy is a tyranny run by despots. Franklin said a democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what is for lunch.

      The Military in the 1930’s said a democracy is communistic in regard to property, causes agitation and discontent, rules by emotion, not law, and the will of the masses can overcome the Rights of the Individual – it is mobocracy by anarchy have not set rules.

      A Republic on the other hand places the Rights of the Individual Unalienable by any means except High Treason.

    • Robert June 4, 2010, 11:22 pm

      “I sure do know that laisse-faire capitalism is also not freedom. ”

      I disagree. Laisse-faire capitalism IS freedom, provided that the capital is earned and not “issued” by unconstitutional governmental bueracracies (also called “Central Banks”)….. Get It?

      “While the teabaggers are right to call for fiscal sanity they are very late to the party, and unfortunately are mostly angry old white men who seem most upset that they no longer run the place (perhaps more upset about that than the fiscal mess).”

      – You painted that one with a pretty wide brush, dontcha think? Because they are “Late to the party” does that invalidate their viewpoints? Better late than never I say.

      As for the “Angry old white men” crack- I’ll forward your observation to Allan Keyes.

      I think Steve did a bang up job breaking down your assessment of the United States of America ever being intended as a Democracy.

      Individual sovereignty… why is that such a scary thought for so many people? I’ll tell you why… because it’s so much easier to blow off personal responsibility/accountability and sit back waiting for God/Jesus/Allah/Obama to take care of you.

      Sloth.

  • Chris T. June 4, 2010, 2:46 am

    Teachers, yes, and also admins.
    Here in NJ, scores of communities pay their supers 200k+, and may have 5,6,7,8 top brass totaling 1000k+.
    These poor dears are forced to contribute to their healthcare plans, oh maybe $5 per week.

    But then, we can’t improve the educational system without more money, because more money = better education.
    And, the best is just barely enough for Johnny and Suzy.

    Who is the most vocal in local communities when budgets are discussed? Next to the Unions, the interested parents.
    So, if you have 2-3 kids, live in NYC, and have to spend 25k+ per kid per year, you move to NJ, get the same quality, and pay maybe 20-30k total property tax fot that.
    Presto: Saved 50-60k, and who cares about a 1k prop. tax increase?
    Once the kids are done with school, we’ll move, let the other idiots subsidize the fool who buys my still overpriced home for his 3 kids.

    And so on, and so on, until it snaps.
    A bit of that happened here recently, when the majority of those school budgets going to the voters (not all do) were turned down.

    The new, rotund, governor wants an amendment to the constitution to LIMIT the INCREASE to 2.5% pa, what a joke.

    But, property assessment revaluations will come to the rescue.

    • Benjamin June 4, 2010, 4:55 am

      “But, property assessment revaluations will come to the rescue.”

      And speaking of property taxes… I can’t put a shed in MY backyard without raising my property tax by 50-100 a year. What the hell for?! Did the city pay for that shed? Is that shed on city property? Does the city maintain that shed? And if wanna extend the house outward to take up part of that half acre, and put a driveway down the other side of the house… It’s ridiculous.

      So the neighborhood value suffers, as people put off doing anything that would raise the real value of their homes. So, they try to boost revenues by inflation, only to see that fail because of (drum roll) deflation!

      Don’t they understand that no means no? What part of all this natural phenomenon aren’t they getting?

      Hello?! Anyone in there?! Think, McFly… Think!

  • PhotoRadarScam June 4, 2010, 2:33 am

    This will be the downfall of the USD and the equivalent will be the downfall of the Euro.

    At some point, the healthier states will refuse to foot the bill for the states that have spent money irresponsibly, such as California. What would the national reaction be if they announce a federal bailout of California tomorrow? Actually, it’s hard to say how much Americans in other (more responsible) states will tolerate such bailouts.

    The problem is worse for Europe. I think non-californians will tolerate some level of bailout for California, but I think the tolerance is much less for Germans wanting to bailout Greece and Spain, for instance. Will the stronger European countries allow the weaker ones to drag them down? I don’t think so. The only question is how true this will be for the stronger states bailing out the weaker ones.

    • John June 8, 2010, 4:38 am

      “What would the national reaction be if they announce a federal bailout of California tomorrow? ”

      What happened when every American bailed out the fat cat bankers in 2008? Not much.

      When CA is bailed out with a loan, people will send emails to everyone in their contact lists, and nothing tangible will happen.

  • Benjamin June 4, 2010, 1:45 am

    First California passed a law guaranteeing sunshine every day. Now they pass a law on bankruptcy? What kind of drugs are in the water over in that there asylum?!

    And teacher pay. I was just having a discussion the other day about summer vacations. My neice had her last day of school today (thursday), which seemed strange to me considering that summer breaks in my time started around mid-June. Of course, she’ll be going back just before mid-August which, when I added up the time, realized that she’s going to school a full week more than I did when I was her age. Some states/cities have it year round, and if the teachers were doing nothing but complaining before that came about, you can bet all they do is complain now. Oh, the hardships! We need more money and benefits before we DIE of too much work!

    What I’m getting at is that they probably lobbied for these extended school years so that they could cry slavery and get more perks. I know some would disagree, but really… how hard is it to teach? Of course, when you have to cram advanced material down the poor kids’ throats before they even so much as finish grade school, it probably does become a lot harder. And it has happened. The same neice, I had to help her grasp friggin’ algebra when she was in 4th grade (?!), and she isn’t even in the gifted class. And this wasn’t exactly simple stuff like 2 + x = 4. Not the hardest stuff, but I saw where a kid could stress out and become bored or unruly having to put up with this day in, day out, and all the while people telling them they’re just getting dumber by the minute.

    But hey… We don’t want dumb kids, so off to school ALL THE TIME, and let’s make the material harder. We don’t want China to pass us up in math, do we?! Of course they… we… don’t! So up their salary for this monumental yet ultimately meaningless task and just pass a law to make sure we won’t go bankrupt. Bloody BRILLIANT!

    • David June 4, 2010, 3:15 am

      I would suggest you try teaching before knocking it as easy. Having been in school as recently as 6 years ago, I have watched my favorite teachers being beaten down with threats of lawsuits by a-hole parents because their kids could not pass a class. I passed without studying and sleeping through each period so it was not that hard. The parents insisted that the class was too hard or that said teachers were not teaching properly. The actual problem was the kids were not very bright and did not want to study although few parents are honest enough to admit thier child’s short comings. These were my friends, I knew them well and I knew what they spent thier time doing. Teaching is a thankless but important job. Decent pay is the only thing that is going to attract young kids into the profession. I have yet to meet a teacher that has recommended their career to a student. Ever. That says quite a bit.
      I would rank teachers with the first responders as government employees who need to be paid the most as opposed to paper pushing office jockies.

      &&&&&&

      With their dozen paid holidays, half-dozen “in-service” days (always on a Monday or a Friday), entire summers off, two-week Christmas vacations, two-week Spring breaks, nine straight days off for…Thanksgiving, great health benefits, short work-weeks and relatively low-stress work, teachers are already the best-paid workers in America. Does anyone actually believe that higher pay would attract a higher-caliber teacher into a system designed to protect and coddle the tenured mediocrities who are there already? Washington, D.C. and NJ spend more per student than any other state, and what has it gotten them? More money is obviously not the answer, and taxpayers should be up in arms against any proposal to spend more on schools. RA

    • Benjamin June 4, 2010, 4:34 am

      Thanks for letting me rattle your cage, Dave, because you said what I hoped someone would say. Now, this is out of my usual character, but…

      “I have watched my favorite teachers being beaten down with threats of lawsuits by a-hole parents because their kids could not pass a class.”

      *******!

      Wah! They’re gonna sue me! I better give in ahead of time because I don’t wanna fight! But at the same time, I want the government to protect my job through the power of the law!

      And you want a raise for being a pansy-ass?!THAT’S the problem. You ain’t no better than those paper pushing office jockies! In fact, you ain’t fit to be a skid-mark in a pair of panties crammed way up inside a jobsworth’s fat a**!

      Once upon a time, this country got by just fine without being the richest, without having a military super-dominance, and without public education. Then along comes the bums with their hands held out, preaching how important they are, but they don’t even want to do their jobs. They would rather blame the parents instead because they’re sceeeeered of being yelled at by them!

      You want a job with lots of perks?

      (spits) There’s your worth. On the ground.

      You wanna get up and start round two?

    • PhotoRadarScam June 4, 2010, 6:47 pm

      Funding teaching is like funding engineering and development. Engineers and teachers will consume whatever funding is given to them, and there is a point where more money does incrementally less and less… yet both groups will always ask for more funding when given the chance. Think about it… a design can almost always be refined and improved, and engineers will seek perfection if given the chance. Likewise, teachers and schools will find ways to spend money on better facilities, teacher aides, technology etc… but are the kids really going to learn that much more or better with a new playground or fancy new books vs. 5 year old books? Unlikely. IMO, school budgets have become bloated because they continue to throw money at a problem that (for the most part) is not caused by a lack of funding.