Treasury Sales Hum, Even Without China

Who’d have believed that small investors have deserted the stock market in droves this year? We’d thought just about everyone but Larry Kudlow was out of shares by early 2009, and that the only players left were the high-speed trading computers maintained by the likes of Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan. Apparently not. Investors pulled $33 billion from equity mutual funds so far in 2010, according to the New York Times. If they keep up the pace, it would be the biggest run on mutual funds in more than two decades, not counting the panic stirred up by the banking crisis in 2008. The little guys appear to be “losing their appetite for risk,” a spokesman from Credit Suisse told the Times, putting it mildly.

Risk-avoidance Gone Wild!

They’re in good company, it would seem, since money managers appear to have thrown in the towel on shares too. Take a gander at the chart above if you want to see where all of their cash has been going. The chart should hearten those who are worried the U.S. Government’s recent decision to embark on a second round of quantitative easing will require a blowout of printing-press money. In fact, the demand for Treasury debt from sources other than the Federal Reserve seems all but insatiable at the moment. Are we being churlish to suggest this mania will not last forever?

What Scares Geithner

Keep in mind that the T-Bond rally has occurred even as China has turned net seller. You heard that right. Their holdings peaked for the year in April at $900.2 billion, down from a record $939.9 billion in July of 2009, when Europe’s supposed debt crisis was peaking. China reportedly held $843.7 billion worth at the end of June, but what is most significant – or perhaps scary if you are Tim Geithner — is the pace at which the blowout has accelerated. “In the ten months between July 2009 and April 2010, Chinese holdings fell by $US $39.7 billion,” reported the Australia-based Privateer, one of our favorite newsletters. More recently, though, Privateer editor William Buckler notes, the selloff quickened at an alarming rate. “In the two months between April and June 2010,”  [the reserves] fell by $US $56.5 Billion.”

No one could accuse the Chinese of being indecisive. In the meantime, domestic buyers have taken up much of the slack, as we noted above. Is it possible the Chinese know something that they don’t?

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  • F. Beard August 24, 2010, 10:59 pm

    When the work stops, the rest go up in smoke. Today I feel very fortunate that I have work to do… Robert

    And the work is stopping because of the nature of fractional reserve lending which destroys credit money as loans are repaid and not replaced with new loans.

    Austrians consider deflation good but they’ll change their minds when their jobs are eliminated, I’d bet.

  • F. Beard August 24, 2010, 7:17 pm

    Nobody forced anyone to take on the debt. They may have lured you in with all the easy credit, but hey, that’s just the story of the serpent and the apple, right?

    The ownus of the debt belongs always and forever to the debtor, not the creditor. Robert

    You apparently do not understand the nature of government backed fractional reserve banking which is equivalent in practice to a counterfeiter who lends out his “money” rather than spends it. To not borrow from the cartel is to risk being priced out of the market by those who do. The root cause of the “rat race” is your local banker not to mention depressions, class strife, socialism and war. Our banking model is based on systematic theft of purchasing power.

    • Robert August 24, 2010, 9:46 pm

      “You apparently do not understand the nature of government backed fractional reserve banking which is equivalent in practice to a counterfeiter who lends out his “money” rather than spends it.”

      – Is this the firt post by me you’ve ever read? I understand the money system. I don’t even classify FRN’s as money. They are currency, so I use them to remain “current” on obligations. I do not use them to preserve purchasing power- that would be nonsense.

      To be fair, the only real purchaing power any of us have is our willingness to our trade time and work for other people’s

      a) time and work
      b) convertible assets.

      That’s all that’s left when you peel the onion.

      A world without fractional reserve banking would be a much more free and harmonious world- I can agree with you on that.

      Fractional reserve lending creates leverage, and leverage creates risk, and risk necessitates insurance, and insurance requires capital, and capital requires work.

      When the work stops, the rest go up in smoke. Today I feel very fortunate that I have work to do…

  • F. Beard August 24, 2010, 5:10 am

    In other words, give the counterfeit money to the victims. Larry

    No, legal tender fiat is not counterfeit though it is only paper. However, the banks have pyramided on that paper to the tune of about 30-1. Therein lies the counterfeit though it be legal. And now that “money” is going back to where it came from, nowhere, reducing the debt, true, but also the money supply. Try running an economy with a shrinking money supply. The banks don’t want to lend into a deflating economy and the population is debt fatigued so the money supply will continue to shrink.

    • Robert August 24, 2010, 6:40 pm

      I just secured a 180 month loan of 30k at 6.55% for a boat (of all things- a depreciating hunk of fiberglass)… so the argument that banks are refusing to lend does not jive with my perception of reality at this point in time.

      I agree that the banks are not loaning to people who:

      a) have no job
      b) have a poor credit rating
      c) have no assets
      d) all of the above

      But one has to ask… would you even lend your neighbor 50 bucks in these circumstances?

      It is not just a failure to lend nor is it a lack of willingness to lend on the part of the banks. It is a failure to find the matchpoint between willing lender and capable borrower. I submit that no one is to blame for these circumstances- they are simply a matter of reality.

      I can not castigate the banks for their refusals to lend, any more than I can castigate the newly poor family of 4 who just lost their 7 figure McMansion and is now sleeping in the back of their 5 Series Wagon.

      Nobody forced anyone to take on the debt. They may have lured you in with all the easy credit, but hey, that’s just the story of the serpent and the apple, right?

      The ownus of the debt belongs always and forever to the debtor, not the creditor.

      I can empathize with the sorrow facing so many families out there, and I can even lend my willing assistance to help them when eventually the regulatory environment makes it favorable for people with liquid capital to deploy it as new business, but right now the idea of starting a company is about the furthest thing from my mind.

  • F. Beard August 23, 2010, 10:03 pm

    “Domestic buyers” or the Fed? Not that I care. What is needed in the economy is real money to replace the counterfeit, temporary stuff otherwise known as “credit”.

    I say, “Print away” but the money should just be given to the victims of the banking cartel, borrowers and savers.

    • Larry August 23, 2010, 10:46 pm

      In other words, give the counterfeit money to the victims.

    • Robert August 24, 2010, 12:20 am

      Hey, I love the fact that my debt is denominated in counterfeit currency units…

  • Oliver August 23, 2010, 6:16 pm

    …and give us our daily extremes…

  • C.C. August 23, 2010, 4:48 pm

    Could this be the beginning (or we’re in it already), of the ‘mania phase’?

    I have an uneasy sense for those buying into this ‘trap’ set by the $money masters. Perhaps it is unwarranted, but something tells me that perceived ‘safety’ is going to ensnare the gullible and fearful into a centrifuge.

    Speaking of centrifuges, I see Iran fired up its oven with Soviet rods – with no Aug. 21st ‘surprise’ from the Israelis. Now what…?

    • Larry August 23, 2010, 5:27 pm

      Er….RUSSIAN rods. The Soviets are long gone.

  • Rich August 23, 2010, 4:33 pm

    Not so sure all of the mutual fund sales ended up in Treasuries.
    A lot maybe went into Eagles or inverse ETFs, each with their significant risks.
    China appears to understand what Martin Armstrong cites as Adam Smith’s insight:
    Governments always default on their sovereign debt. Anyone long treasuries may be playing a high stakes version of financial musical chairs: When the liquidity stops, the bonds, notes and bills drop.
    MA cites another truism: There is little rule of law in NYC, DC or USA anymore, so Corps and Foundations hide their capital offshore, where it is treated better than by Big Brother or Big Sister in an explosive myriad of alphanumeric government agency bureaucracies and bills providing the opposite of their names, while bankrupting the people.
    There appears to be little integrity left in big business, big government or monopoly media anymore, with all three fanning the flames of a (non-existent) Israeli attack on Iran before the Saturday Bushehr loading of fuel rods, and the corporate government media complex becoming a national socialist tyranny, taking liberty and tribute by theft while pretending to care about life and justice.
    What if the integrity of the internet is shut down by NSA, GOOG, T and VZ opposing net neutrality?
    Will we of necessity resort to armed back door neighbor grassroots free markets again as governments collapse?

    • Robert August 24, 2010, 12:16 am

      Rich-

      I always like reading what you have to say.

      Regarding the following:

      “What if the integrity of the internet is shut down by NSA, GOOG, T and VZ opposing net neutrality?”

      – The Internet (capital “I”) is merely a collection of smaller, interconnected internets (lowercase “i”) that are conjoined by a global policy body (ICANN) that regulates common domain nomenclature (.com, .net, etc) and addressing schemas (most notably IP)

      There can be no shutting down of the Internet without ICANN- they would have to be a party to such an exercise (whether willing or under duress)

      Even if the Internet were “switched off” at a high level, the individual TCP/IP networks (the internets) that make up 99.99999999% of the Internet would be uneffected by the ICANN move, and you can be sure that administrators would immediatley begin implementing their own DNS (Domain Name System)mapping rules (which are the rules that they currently look to ICANN to provide) and soon, the Internet would begin healing itself as global DNS rebuilt itself as a grassroots effort.

      The DARPA net (you know, the one Al Gore invented) was little more than the numeric TCP/IP protocol for machine addressing – it was the naming (aliasing) policies that evolved into ICANN’s business model and allowed people to begin associating computers with common names (like Google) instead of IP addresses.

      It was the millions of Engineers who began inter-connecting their local TCP/IP networks that truly created the Internet. We did it before, and we can do it again….

      Most assuredly, there would be chaos along the way as popular domain names (like google.com) would have millions of hosts trying to convince all the TCP traffic out there that THEY are the real Google, but eventually, a new web reality would settle in and the only thing missing from the “new” Internet would be popular domain suffixes like .com, .net, etc…

      People would soon realize that google.google (or some other alias) actually mapped and routed them to the real Google’s servers, and that google.com routed them to a spyware infested russian porn site.

      So, my response to your question: “Will we of necessity resort to armed back door neighbor grassroots free markets again as governments collapse?” is possibly; but that does not mean we will have to do it without the technology… The data will always be there, and those who know how to move data from computer to computer will find ways of getting it done. I dare say that there is at least one IT Engineer within every 5 square miles in this country. For a Gold coin or two, I’m sure we’ll be willing to help the less technically fortunate get connected to the “new web”

      Frankly, the whole idea of formulating a strategy for strategically disabling the Internet is patently absurd to me, and is a monumental waste of taxpayer dollars, but then, that’s probably exactly why the government is looking into it.

  • Benjamin August 23, 2010, 8:33 am

    “Is it possible the Chinese know something that they don’t?”

    I’ve posted the following link in order to discuss point #7, not the list as a whole…

    http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2010/7/14_Jim_Rickards_-_China%2C_Gold%2C_CNBC_%26_Wilbur_Ross.html

    “7. China’s shortage of gold in its reserve position. The U.S., Germany, Italy and France all have between 65-72% of their reserves in gold whereas China has 1.6%. In terms of reserves, China is a paper giant but a gold pygmy. Geithner wants to “rebalance” the global economy from exports to consumption in China, but he has no corresponding solution for rebalancing gold holdings. This is the biggest financial problem in the world today but no central bank officials will discuss it openly.”

    I recently read a more detailed story on that point, but for the life of me I just can’t find it, so that’s why I posted the linl to that. But that point pretty much summed it up.

    My best guess: They know not enough gold can ever come their way, and therfore all their paper… Well, maybe damage control is their goal? If so, I don’t see that as anything but desperation. The more they sell, the more worthless the remainder becomes because of ever-lowering interest policy of the Fed and Treasury.