Republicans Should Be Careful What They Wish For

Dick Morris thinks the pundits are underestimating the odds of a Republican landslide in November.  Although most are predicting a GOP pick-up of 40-50 seats in the House and perhaps 8-10 seats in the Senate, the astute Morris, who was Bill Clinton’s closest political advisor, thinks a blowout is possible, with Republican gains of as many as 100 seats in the House and 14 in the Senate.  However, if Morris’s forecast proves correct, we’d suggest that conservative voters not get their hopes too high for a return of good times, since, arguably, the problems besetting the economy are so profound as to lie beyond political remedy.

We don’t mean to suggest that those problems are insoluble – only that no politician would be able to muster the votes necessary to do what needs to be done. For starters, the government would have to let the big banks fail, since they are eventually going to fail

Okay, but will the protestors have any better ideas?

anyway. However, even politicians who understand this wouldn’t dare appear to countenance it.  The only Congressman we can think of with the guts to push for the “nuclear option” is Rep. Ron Paul.  Mr. Paul is also one of very few office holders who understands economics well enough to explain with perfect clarity why removing the banks’ supposed safety net is the only solution that will work.  By allowing derivatives markets that have been brain-dead for years to clear, the “anti-bailout” would give the economy a fresh start, albeit one providing a significantly lower standard of living for most Americans. It would be a very tough sell, for sure, and no matter how compelling Rep. Paul’s argument, he’d be bucking a status quo that clings more and more desperately to the hope that the markets will return to health by themselves. Under this scenario, the more than trillion dollars in worthless mortgage securities the Fed has been warehousing for the banks would magically rise in value, surfing the wave of a real estate boom brought on by resurgent buyers.

Pounce on That Uptick

In reality, there is little immediate prospect of a property boom – more like the opposite, since there is so much inventory waiting to hit the market on the faintest uptick. As for curing deflation, no remedy short of universal amnesty for mortgage debtors will do the job. You might think we’d have learned this, so obvious has it become that the multi-trillion dollar stimulus attempted so far has failed to induce even a blip of inflation in the housing market. But that won’t stop politicians from trying yet again, egged on by Keynesian quacks like Paul Krugman who think yet more stimulus is the answer.  And while it’s possible a Republican majority will be able to resist the siren call to stimulate by running up yet more trillions of Federal debt, it seems unlikely that even the most conservative Congress will embrace the massive wave of bankruptcies that alone can clear the way for a sustainable recovery.

Assuming the economy is in far worse shape in 2012, it’s difficult to imagine the voters swinging back to the Democrats. If it turns out to be the year of the Tea Party, let’s hope they’ve got some good ideas by then, not just slogans and placards.

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  • ful_karboy September 14, 2010, 3:12 am

    I see we have a full complement of Leftists here again,LOL . Odd that THEY complain about job losses when guess who was responsible for driving whole industries overseas? {Unions, predatory lawsuits, overzealous Lib regs and eco-nazis}

    Why do we import so much oil? Can’t drill on most of the coast and interior. Nuke, hydro and coal plants are routinely blocked, even windmill farms! Guess how many jobs “community activists” cost just right there!

    Who brought down GM and Chrysler? Unions, high Med costs, etc. Notice that most of the Asian and European carmakers put their plants in the South? Who’s blocked tort reform for years? Yes Dems, because ambulance chasers like Edwards donated so much money to campaigns.

    Carol is obviously not very familiar with Black Conservatives so I thought I’d list 6 or so of my favorite Black Conservative writers. In no particular order: Walter E Williams, Thomas Sowell, Michelle Malkin, Larry Elder, Ellis Washington and last but not least Mychal Massie.

    {Mychal Massie is chairman of the National Leadership Network of Black Conservatives-Project 21 – a conservative black think tank located in Washington, D.C.}

    Obama on a foodstamp??? More amusing and truthful than comparing GW or Cheney to nazis. {National German SOCIALIST Workers party.}

    “Class struggle” and “redistributing” earnings, now WHERE have we heard that before? Besides from Obama’s long list of communist/Leftist mentors and friends? Copping a page from FDR’s manual {or saul alinsky’s?} DEMagoguing “Wall Street”, {successful “Bankers” and business leaders didn’t work so well in the 1930’s, neither did expanding Gov and loading businesses down with changing regulations from central planning apparatchiks.

    Obama HAS been GREAT for gold though….

  • Pat Fields September 13, 2010, 11:25 pm

    No one need suffer and the entire economy could begin smoothly restoring itself from a state largely free of government debt if the FED’s banknotes were immediately converted by Treasury/Mint to their real residual value without nominal designation.

    Since the banknotes have depreciated 97% in purchasing power from their inception, they have true equity realization in 10 gram copper pieces (3 cents 1913).

    Were government to mandate the conversion, prices would simply be stated in the same numbers of ‘coppers’ as had been stated in banknotes and the foundation would be set to ramp back into silver and gold as they ‘find’ their appropriate ratios to the coppers.

    There is enough ‘scrap’ copper in America to completely replace the entire float of Plantation Scrip and as silver and gold re-emerge from hoards everywhere, the digital ‘cash’ could be ‘realized’ within a reasonable time frame as well.

    There ARE solutions IF we think out of the box and stop accepting the false premises we constantly hear repeated by the establishment Politico puppets and their Bankster masters

  • F. Beard September 13, 2010, 10:12 pm

    The Bible gives the Republicans, who often claim to be Christian, plenty of cover for bailing out the debtors (Deuteronomy 15, Leviticus 25) but that will be the day, eh? Instead, they will push supply side as if overcapacity was not already a problem.

    • DG September 14, 2010, 3:03 am

      F Beard

      In fact, we did just the opposite in the financial bailout. We forgave the creditors at the expense of the debtors. God will have his day with that one. It has nothing to do with party politics. Plenty of dems, along with repubs, pushed it through who, either bankers or politicians, profess to use the bible as a guide. Right…..root of all evil squared. As far as political lines go, the democrats clearly outnumbered the republicans on the financial bailout support. That’s a fact Jack!

  • fallingman September 13, 2010, 6:46 pm

    I’ve contended for a while now that we’d have two …maybe three…more national elections where people were willing to express their displeasure through the electoral system.

    And then, when the slide into fiscal, monetary, and economic hell reaches its destination, it’ll all comes out sideways. Lord only knows what that’ll look like exactly, but one element of it will certainly be rage.

    Imagine how the rube feels after he discovers the street hustler’s been cheating him. He sure as hell isn’t gonna play the game again and he’ll be looking to get some serious payback.

    But that’s still 3-4 years off. Morris is right. The Republicans will enjoy a smashing victory this year for two reasons.

    1) People are hugely pissed…understandably. The Democrats have gone full speed ahead with their Fabian agenda, doing whatever it takes to ram it through, taking a damn the torpedoes attitude. Those efforts are all financed by Wall Street insider interests, by the way.

    2) The Powerz make damn sure you don’t have anybody else but old red or blue to vote for. That leaves red as the ONLY choice if you want to “send a message” to Washington. How convenient for them.

    The election thing is a complete scam. The criminal insider elites use elections as a way to make people think they have influence when, in fact, they have almost none, and certainly no influence at all when it comes to the really serious business, ie. making sure the world is safe for the bankers and the rest of their corporatist pals.

    Elections, with their partisan posturing, serve as a pressure relief valve for the Powerz That Be. When people get angry, they don’t look to the men behind the curtain. Instead, they point to the politicians and swear to replace the bad apples in party A with the saviors in party B. Until party B shows themselves to be no better, at which time we switch back again.

    As Emma Goldman said, “If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.”

    But at a certain point, when the day of reckoning can no longer be deferred with accounting rule changes, massive bailouts, zero interest rates, monetization, and the rest of their gimmicks, something’s gonna give and when it does, the charade that is electoral politics will be blown away along with the rest of the rotten mess.

    Andy Jackson lives on only on the paper $20 bill. Yeah, that’s a disgrace. What we need is a few million real life Jeffersons and Jacksons to march down to the Federal Reserve and surround the place till the vermin who really run the show in this country agree to shut the Fed down or be arrested and put on trial.

    I’d be dumbfounded if we ever got an action that sensible from the hopeless clueless American public, but I can dream, can’t I?

    JP Morgan IS the Fed. Goldman IS the Treasury. Together, along with their fellow co-conspirators in the military/industrial, big pharma, big Ag, main stream media complex, they ARE the U.S. government. The civics lesson version is a fairy tale, promoted by their moles in the sold out educational establishment.

    The Powerz are playing us. It’s all an elaborate con game.

    At least Ron Paul has shown the way and is trying to stop the madness, but it looks grim from here. This won’t be resolved without upheaval. And then what?

    A ” strong leader” who just happens to have an internationalist agenda and the unfettered means to implement it? God help us.

  • james tobin September 13, 2010, 6:43 pm

    Rick,
    I do not understand how you could be so wrapped up in believing any political party had much to do with the world’s economic problems of greed and money fornication. In my way of thinking the real trouble makers are walking among us as free men with all their ill gotten gains as they seem also to be too big to be prosecuted.
    I too worry about what will come of your political outcomes especially when I hear you express the tea party in the same breathe with the 2012 elections; this has the potential of a very grim scenario when you mix the worlds most powerful armed forces with a continually deteriorating economy.

    Regards,
    james

    &&&&&

    I’ve always maintained that the political parties and their respective Presidents have had no effect whatsoever on economic cycles. The economy is far bigger than politics, really, and the illusion of a free lunch has been promoted and exploited by Republicans and Democrats alike. Reaganomics simply marked the beginning of a vertical rise in deficit spending. RA

  • Chris T. September 13, 2010, 6:24 pm

    Rick, fully agree with you here.
    Three extensions:

    “The only Congressman … with the guts …” is Rep. Ron Paul.”

    He would surely be the one in line to succeed Barney Frank as Chairman — how great would that be for him to run the Comittee?
    And THEY MUST be deathly afraid of that!
    So, it will be very interesting to see what the Republicans will do THIS time to steal this from Ron Paul.
    Because, they did it once before, when (Newter G. I believe) engineered a prevention of his chairmanship over a decade ago.
    If they succeed, I hope enough people will finally realize how corrupted the Republicans are.
    “…there is little immediate prospect of a property boom…”

    Not to mention the up-coming Alt-A reset wave, which is larger in mortgages affected than sub-prime was.

    “..And while it’s possible a Republican majority will be able to resist the siren call to stimulate by running up yet more trillions of Federal debt…”

    The only reason this majority would, is because the other party is in the White House–ie system-immanent obstruction.
    On substance they would not be opposed, because, as we saw in October 2008, when the Bush White house engineered such a fake crisis mentality, that they were able to work with the leadership to overcome enough of the partial backboned members to prevail. No reason to think anything else would happen, the faces won’t be changed enough.
    So, lets see what crisis they will maneuver for this time…

  • walter fields September 13, 2010, 6:15 pm

    Rick, The left/right axis is a killing ground for those who
    believe either. ‘Hope’, the leisure suit of journalism, and
    can be worn anywhere. To say that Morris is astute is
    beside the point. Journalism’s function is three-fold –
    the murder of inference, suck on the d**k of power, and
    help you forget. The Tea Party gets it right and I’m
    Napoleon. Walter Fields

    &&&&&

    Newspapers shrink from the truth because they don’t want to upset advertisers with “bad” news. The harder the economic times, the greater the gap between fact and what is reported. RA

  • C.C. September 13, 2010, 5:35 pm

    Politicians and Tea-Partiers…?

    First, as Rick implied with his comment regarding Ron Paul, one must sift through the rabble a bit to locate that still small (but growing voice) of Constitutionally-minded Tea Partiers.

    The Campaign For Liberty Tea Party. The ‘Original Item’, as it were.

    Not the Co-opted ‘Tea Party’ – the likes of Palin, Hannity, etc., who have no problem with spending $12B/mo. on foreign adventures, but howl to the rooftops about domestic ‘spending’…

    That’s what I refer to as ‘Smorgasbord Conservatism’. The kind where you pick & choose the programs and bennies you like, but leave (or stiff) the other stuff for somebody else…

    Give the upstart Tea Partiers about 6 mos. – to a year, of the kind of ‘austerity’, lower standard of living, and plain old Hardship that would match their campaign sloganeering, then see who will be Howling for the Government to ‘Do Something’…

    No folks. Save for a hardy few, the quote attributable to Alexander Tytler (and another gentleman who’s name escapes me right now), the general public has indeed learned how to vote themselves ‘Largesse’ – both sides of the isle, and they are Not about to give it all up – no matter what any marches-on-the-mall say.

  • Brutlstrudl September 13, 2010, 5:28 pm

    Looks like the lean times are gonna be here for awhile. Best of luck to everybody, you too, Tim .

  • DG September 13, 2010, 5:27 pm

    It is clear that we need to move beyond political parties to solve problems that are obvious to the intellectually honest, regardless of party. The generalizations applied to parties is completely useless, and clearly political motivated. If you spout these generalizations, consider that you are being used by those MUCH richer. Not one zero or two more richer, but one or two commas. tens and thousands of millions…

    Both parties have collectively sold their souls to the money. Hence, democracy has been sold to the highest bidder. The fundamental causes of the financial crisis had rep and dem fingerprints all over it. We can go through the list is you wish, but anybody who has studied the events leading up to it knows this has been in the making for decades. We need to ditch the elephant and the donkey if we are to move on.

    I believe we need a power on reset. All cows must come back to the barn for evaluation and there are no sacred cows. This was the Prez’ appeal, but it was all campaign nonsensical talk. You was had and Lloyd laughs.

    For example, if we are at war in the Middle East for oil, maybe we need to fire everyone at the Dept of Energy and allow all to interview for jobs at the “new” Dept of Sustainable American Energy Independence. If we are there for security, ditto for CIA and DOD. You got some ‘splainin’ folks.

    The list goes on with every dept that has realized failing marks for the last 40 years. Pretty much every dept in govt. Education? We aren’t even in the top 40 internationally. IRS? They miss at least 20% of the taxes owed. CIA? I think 9/11 is an “F”, no? -If not, then the idea that they were complicit seems considerable… CDC? FDA? Have you ever pained yourself to listen to the stupidity of the comments that Congress volunteers at a C-span covered testimony? As much as I couldn’t stand “Easy Al” I actually felt sorry for him when Maxine Waters got up to bat. How do you answer stupid questions based on stupid presuppositions? I seriously wonder if these folks have high school diplomas! Seriously look at our failures in govt and the TFH-ers (tinfoil hatters) begin to look a lot more sane.

    We need to realize that the world cannot be understood in a headline. Currently, we are arguing about tax increases for the so-called rich. Some simply argue that we need to return to the post-depression rates and that justifies raising rates on those households making $250k. Think. Lets see what our monetary policy has done to that figure…. Most of the jobs are not created in rural America (for better or worse), but in densely populated areas. Those densely populated areas are expensive. If you are raising a family, living in the Bay Area, for example, $250k will not pay for funding of your home, your retirement, your kids college fund, and your taxes, and living, without compromise. There is no escaping 50% taxation with the Bush tax cuts as they are. You are paying nearly 20% of your income on property and state taxes, you can do the rest on fed, med, and ss. And that is at least half….Your mortgage takes another 20% bite, leaving you with a whopping $6k a month and change to pay for living and saving for future liabilities (retirement, college). Rich? You are flying coach, but probably choosing to drive to Disneyland. AND you are stuck with public schools….Are you working to support your family??? See? The little detail that intellectually dishonest forgot to include was that the top tax rate from our earlier history was meant for the BIG money. That entirely higher strata that today thinks nothing of exchanging a first class seat for an entire private jet. Which is why FDR increased the cut-off 10x, from $100k to $1 million in 1932 (A million then was actually $30-50 million now). So in the end, this ignorance is pitting the 50% at the bottom with the super-rich to gang up on the middle class – you know, the successful dry cleaner like George Jefferson…and guess who wins? Cessna and the Citation Class/G5. Result? The middle class will do all that they can to survive, including laying off the low income folks….you was played….Blankfein and his ilk, snicker all the way to the bank.
    My grandad was middle class in the 30’s. I have his financial records. He made $2k a year as a 30-something college degreed accountant. Gold was 35 bucks an ounce. Today, it is 40, soon to be 50 times that….huh. Strange how that math works out. But if we went down that intellectual path and considered how this math came about we would have to question our Fed and that can of worms can’t be opened, -nah, too much thinking involved….. so lets just demonize George Jefferson, group him with Blankfein, and wonder why our unemployment benefits run out after he fires us a year later…..and then vote for the next stooge that Blankfein funded.

    Think. Ditch your political party dogma.

    • Chris T. September 13, 2010, 6:10 pm

      Exactly.
      Our belief in what is “rich” is never adjusted for inflation, but the game was always to go after the middle class’ money.
      I postet this before:
      The 1% elite has been out to plunder, all the rest of us, and the progressive’s were their first tool (Teddy R, Wilson, WJBryant), later on the suposed class-traitor FDR.
      Except, that of “all the rest of us” the poor have nothing to plunder, so “all the rest of us” is merely the middle class.

    • Carol September 13, 2010, 8:20 pm

      DG

      Excellent post. Elections for the last 2 decades have gone increasingly toward the highest bidder. Obama is no different, it turns out. Geithner the tax cheat, Daschle a tax cheat…in fact, I heard the other day that in both Bush II and Obama admins, staff tax delinquents owed roughly $850K each. Little difference there. Now that the Supremes put their fist on the scales in Citizens United v. FEC, it’s official. Funny enough, there are some in the GOP who want to repeal the 17th Amendment (direct election of senators), which was enacted after years of corruption because state legislators kept “electing” business interests…the Senator from Oil, the Senator from Banking, etc. The funny part is that we don’t even need to repeal the amendment – the Supremes already took care of that.

    • mikeck September 14, 2010, 1:53 am

      DG wrote: “Think. Ditch your political party dogma.”

      Amen to that…I will not even support Ron Paul if he runs again as a Republican, but I would vote for him if the truth were allowed to proceed that far.

      Mike

  • ricecake September 13, 2010, 5:21 pm

    Americans indeed are very short sighted, impatient, plus have very short memories. Didn’t realize that Bush’s 8 year nightmare evaporated so soon. If less of the two evils means anything, Republicans is obvious not the lesser one.

    Not that the Demarcates are good but My impression of Republicans are worse as the followings:

    War Mongers

    The worst in handling Economy

    Shipping as many jobs overseas as possible (except those of War machine manufactures.)

    Pay as little as they can get away to the labors

    Pay no taxes but partying with as much tax money as they can

    Carry guns everywhere as they like, like in the wild west days.

    My way or high ways democracy.

    Throwing tantrum like a 4 years old. Say “NO” to everything . Blames everything on other people or other religions.

    No middle ground.

    Irrational and very agitated people.

    Sahra Palin and Glenny Beck.

    The party which is deteriorating fast.

    • ricecake September 13, 2010, 6:22 pm

      Forces backing the Republican:

      Used to be: Big Oil + Big Defense Big Military complex. Then Bush added the Big Pharma (senior prescription drug deal) and Big Healthcare Insurance. Now they are adding Big Financial industry on board too!

      What’s remaining for the Democrats? The union workers and the debtors and underwater mortgage owners.

      Ha ha ha, you wonder land-sliding for the Democrats.

    • Chris T. September 13, 2010, 8:14 pm

      “War Mongers”
      Johnson-Vietnam
      Clinton – Sudan, Kosovo
      Obama-Afghanistan

      “The worst in handling Economy”
      Jimmy Carter
      “Shipping as many jobs overseas as possible”
      Bill Clinton-NAFTA, China outsourcing

      “Pay as little as they can get away to the labors”
      Again Clinton:
      90s & illegal immigration

      “Pay no taxes but partying with as much tax money as they can”
      The richtest pols are the Democratic leaders in Congress and their money givers in finance, et al.

      “Carry guns everywhere as they like, like in the wild west days. ”
      The ones that actually use these things to HURT someone either don’t vote , or certainly wouldn’t ote R. if they did

      “Throwing tantrum like a 4 years old.”
      Olberman, Maddow

      ” Blames everything on other people or other religions. ”
      Ditto, always white men and Christian fundis

      “No middle ground.”
      Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid

      “Irrational and very agitated people. ”
      “Sahra Palin and Glenny Beck. ”
      Ditto Olberman, Maddow above
      add Begala, Carville

      “The party which is deteriorating fast”
      Yes, and thank heavens for that.
      if they are ahead of the Dems in this point, lets all pray the Dems catch up fast.

      Don’t kid yourself, as has been stated elsewhere above:
      There IS NO difference, sir you wear blinders!
      .

    • ricecake September 13, 2010, 9:07 pm

      Doom and gloom is becoming all the fashion and rage by the day. In the worst scenario: America is a two headed beast “Democrats vs Republicans.” Compromise is a yesterday’s song. The two heads are constantly at each other until one head bits the other head off to become an one headed beast called American Dictatorship.

      In this context, the Republicans look more promising because they have the big monies, the religion, and the master minded conspiratorial scam artists behind them while the Democrats only have mostly the debtors and the unions and big spenders.

      Chris T. OK. You are right too.

    • Chris T. September 14, 2010, 8:40 pm

      Hey, we really do agree.
      As to your last point, I would rephrase it somewhat:

      The Reps are not really ahead of the Dems, the Democrats only hide it better.
      Ever since FDR, the Democratic game has been to appear as the champion of the poor and downtrodden, and they have been SUPREMELY successful at that, wining those groups undying support.
      however, in actualy fact, their game was to feed their true masters, and those masters are the class that FDR was a part of.
      He never betrayed these people.
      Anything that has ever been OVERTLY taken from these people, was COVERTLY (in the eyes of the downtrodden that is) returned many fold.
      Ludwig von Mises put it best, when he described inflation as being a redistribution from the bottom to the top, by allowing the first recipients of the inflated money to buy at the uninflated price.
      This insider advantage is the one FDR gave, and the Democrats have been at it ever since (same for the Reps). It is much greater than any direct taking.
      There is no other reason why so many well-heeled people are Dem. politicians or Dem. supporters.
      You never saw Teddy K or Diane Feinstein give away ALL of their money for their pet causes, no they want to use OUR money for that, while keeping theirs.
      Works pretty well so far.

  • jj September 13, 2010, 4:16 pm

    Your kidding right??

    It doesn’t matter who is running your country!!

    Those that control the “puppets strings” will continue to control everything.

    Enjoy the show, because its exactly what it has become a Big Circus………………….send in the next group of clowns….

    daboyz must have to surgically remove the smiles from their faces as they play the “sheeple” over and over again………..INSANITY = doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different outcome, lol!

    • mikeck September 14, 2010, 1:49 am

      jj wrote: “It doesn’t matter who is running your country!!”

      I have to respectfully disagree, it matters in that they must chose which hand to use for control based upon whom it is that they are trying to please. 😉

  • donniemac September 13, 2010, 1:31 pm

    The problem I have with the argument against Keynesian policy is the repayment part, IMHO, has never been correctly applied after a stimulative spending spree. But that is an discussion for theorists.
    The real economic benefit that the massive WWII spending was full employment. The economic good times came after the short recession at the end of the war with the pent up demand created by couples making lots of us boomers and needing infrastructure and things. One could argue that the massive spending of WWII created that pent up demand. But we had a savings climate that was different then. The massive debt was owed to ourselves. An argument could be made that there was a hugh tax hike along with the massive spending, that tax hike took the form of US savings bonds. The social pressure to buy savings bonds, and other US debt vehicles was tremendous. Plus there were not much ways to spend those wages. Travel was restricted as gas was rationed, there were no products to buy, period, at any price as all manufacturing was being used for the war effort. So I do not know how valid it is for Keynesians like Krugman to point to the WWII spending in support of their favorite theorist.
    From my vantage point, I saw the beginning of the end as I watched the US change from a manufacturing economy to a service/financial one. When I saw ads for “making money the old fashioned way” being run by brokerage firms and I realized that I was the only member of my wife’s and my family who was actually adding value to the economy, I knew that the basic knowledge of what “makes money” was lost. And, IMHO, we will not be on the right tack till engineering again is the hot college ticket.
    And I agree that the banks need to fail. From what I am reading, Obama was taken back by the banking industries return to “making money the old fashioned way (sarcasm)” after the bail outs. So much for electing a political neophyte in this climate (that is one thing that bothers me about the tea party). There has to be a fundamental shift in how we view the economy, and IMHO, that shift is towards value creation, not moving money around and everyone taking their cut like money has some kind of magical restorative properties. 🙂 a perpetual money generating machine, obviously modeled after the perpetual motion machine everyone knows is going to create energy out of nothing.
    Don
    PS And add to that list, working for the government. Most government work is value sapping, not value creating. But right now, the best jobs are seen as those offered by the feds.

    • Carol September 13, 2010, 2:36 pm

      donniemac

      I agree with most of your post but would add that the generation that created us boomers also withstood the Depression before volunteering for service in WWII. Considering those two calamities, one followed in relatively short order by the other, there was enormous pent-up demand. Once the war was over, GM, Ford, the aircraft industries could give up making war materiel for the Free World and concentrate on the industries their companies created. But note that it was not without cost – GM was one of the major forces lobbying (yes, even then – “what’s good for GM is good for America”) for ending passenger rail, both intra-city and long distance. The last time I can recall passenger rail being widely available was about 1959. Then, too, the airline industry picked up where it left off and we were off to the friendly skies. And yes, I am a proponent of passenger rail (we already subsidize the car and oil/gas industries – a gallon of gas would cost us $15 at the pump without the billions upon billions of subsidies to the likes of that poor bedraggled company otherwise known as ExxonMobil). When China turns its eyes inward and moves from an export economy to a consumer economy – which won’t be long – that will do more to stabilize the world economy than anything else if only because of the demographics. And because they’ve financed the Western bloodshed in the Middle East while scarfing up the lion’s share of the world’s oil contracts going forward, we’ll either be subsidizing ExxonMobil, et. al. for what will be at least $20 per gallon of gas or more. Not to mention iron, steel, copper, lithium, etc. That will mark the new dawn of the impoverishment of the West for the benefit of the East. That will be when we finally realize that, yeah, passenger rail just might have been a good thing to have pursued all along. Or, we could just sit in our villages and small towns and wish for the day when we had jobs that paid a living wage so we could save and get the hell out because movement for labor of all kinds will be severely effected.

      Your point about actually going back to making stuff in the US is absolutely spot on. We gave up the consumer electronics industry to Japan in the 1960s, small cars and trucks to Japan in 1973, computers and other high tech to Asia in general in about the 1990s. Whoever thought we could survive on hamburger flippers and “the knowledge-based economy” should be taken out and shot. We created this idiocy and the chickens finally came home to roost when the general public could no longer use their paid-up houses as an ATM, when liar loans became the fashion, when banking regs enacted throughout the 30s and 40s stood the test of time for decades were thrown out and significant members of both parties departed D.C. to make their 9 figure killings taking advantage of what they’d wrought.

      It’s also noteworthy how the entire world cowers before China when trade matters are negotiated. China was smarter that, say, Mexico, when globalization became the in thing by insisting that Chinese components be used in the “goods” they were to manufacture and send to the rest of the world. They also erect barriers to other countries’ goods and, need I say it? They manipulate their currency to beggar their neighbors. To argue for globalization and “free trade” one the most significant player is insisting on adhering to its own rules rather than, say, Uncle Sucker who keeps cowering because of the enormous debt we owe to China is insane. A few days ago, even Taiwan kowtowed and worked a deal wherein their tariffs could only be half of what was allowed to China. I’m not suggesting an “official” policy of favoring our own industry…but if we’re already into the age of no bid contracts as against our own domestic industries, I’m sure there are enough brain cells so occupied as to come up with an “unofficial” policy of domestic favoritism. If we don’t go back to actually making stuff, then we’ll see more government supported service industries like charter schools, prisons, health insurers and big pharma. Or, we could just go as we are and become the official world police because there will be enough warm bodies signing up for military service as the war machine appears to be the currently most viable manufacturing industry that we have left. But that, too, enjoys federal beneficence in the form of cost-plus, doesn’t it?

    • Benjamin September 13, 2010, 4:13 pm

      ” I realized that I was the only member of my wife’s and my family who was actually adding value to the economy, I knew that the basic knowledge of what “makes money” was lost.”

      Tell me about it. As I so often say, I was a trucker not long ago. Makes me angry that, despite all my hard, hard work, not to mention the countless times I nearly bought the farm, that the country is still going down the toilet.

      I have to confess, that I knew that I wasn’t making a big difference, but kept on anyway like I was. Delusion can feel nice, and is sometimes the only thing between you and going postal. I had myself thinking that so long as I didn’t work for Uncle, as long as I went out of my way to play his games… That I could risk my life, perhaps die because of it, but at least die as or like a working, productive man, like my father and grandfathers before me. Of course, after getting sick and forced to find out how little the fruits of my labor were…

      “And, IMHO, we will not be on the right tack till engineering again is the hot college ticket.”

      Wholeheartedly agree. Aside from illness, my drive to discover the truth began when I was studying to become an engineer. After so many years of trucking, I thought I could make some changes, make things more efficient and less costly. Anyway, while deeply examining that potential, I just kept unraveling things. And more, and more, and more.

      I found the answers, I have their number. Now all we need is more numbers 🙂

    • Chris T. September 13, 2010, 6:03 pm

      donniemac:
      “…the repayment part, IMHO, has never been correctly applied after a stimulative spending…”

      It’s really very simple:

      That “stimulus” can only come from three sources (because government produces NOTHING):
      a. taken from people IN the economy by force (taxation)
      b. taken by people voluntarily by borrowing
      c. by creating it from thin-air (printing).
      Leaving aside the from-within-the country/from-outside-the-country aspect of b), both a) and b) merely divert money already in the economy to the government, which:
      WILL NEVER invest this money as effectively or productively as the actual economy itself can, and
      WILL always destroy a part of the diverted amount with its own friction (just like any mecahine or system, there are always losses, no perpetuum mobile).

      Thus even IF Keyne’s second part, the repayment, were actually followed, the theory is still bunk.
      Experience, though, has shown, that part two is NEVER followed, thus what good is a theory that NEVER works in pracitce?
      Just like Marxism, which may, to some, look good on paper, but has NEVER worked in practice.

  • Benjamin September 13, 2010, 12:27 pm

    Actually, I hope the republicans do get it all. That way, when they fail to accomplish anything (like Barack Whatshisname), the country will have no choice but to wake up, where it is sleeping, and give up the ghost, where the ghost has long outstayed it’s welcome, and seriously think about what is wrong so that The Solution presents itself.

    Anyway, I can’t help but notice that, in the background of the picture, there’s what appears to be a Puerto Rican/Latin or maybe a ligher-skinned black that isn’t being lyched at this anti-Obama rally. It always amuses me to see people of color at these rallies, since the whacko leftists like to conjure up charges of racism to fling at the Tea Party, at any chance they get. Then again, maybe he’s sicking his pet dog on the lady, because of her shirt? Yeah. That has to be it! 🙂

    Oh, and I almost forgot the slogan for the day…

    “ARRRGH! Methinks thar be gold in them central bank vaults that they didn’t earn!”

    So let’s ever-so-slightly overshoot the return to our post Revolution values, and breifly visit the golden age of piracy, so we can learn to be, well, men with plenty of sizeable precious stones.

    And Tea Parties? Today?! Maaan… Tea’s not taxed anymore! No more than anything else is, anyway. Real bold statement that was, people chucking tea into the local rivers and their suburban retention ponds. Nope. Not nearly effective enough, says I. What we need is an FRN Party. Something that, once started, marks a point of no return. Something done by overwhelmingly large groups of people, preferably, storming the banks, removing all them peices of paper and computers containing digital entries, and chucking them all into the bonfires, well into the evening, demanding to know where our gold is.

    Criminal? No, no, no… Putting Andrew Jackson’s face on the fiat 20 is the real crime, here. No wonder the man’s ghost is said to haunt the White House…

    http://dcghosttours.com/andrew-jacksons-ghost

    So I add the more activist-sounding slogan: Give Up The Ghost! Ditch FRNS!

    • Carol September 13, 2010, 2:42 pm

      Benjamin

      It appears that we tangle again, this time over the few individuals of a darker hue that crop up from time to time in pix of the Tea Partiers. One of my everlasting and so far unheeded screeds against the Republicans and the Partiers is their habit of taking a lone individual or two or three in a vast sea of white and making the argument that, “See? We’re not racist” while coming up with things like food stamps with Obama’s portrait on them and suggesting other lower standard items for his photo. There are scads of incidents littered through the thousands of Tea Party pix that show racist impulses – if not the harder kind such as “we have a black in the WH and the whites are the new n*****s” then the softer insinuations signifying the same sentiments.

    • Benjamin September 13, 2010, 3:54 pm

      Carol,

      So what do you want me to do about race-guilted, leftist liberal’s in republican clothing? Besides, and not to put too fine a point on it, but I suspect they point out every single appearance because of those who make it their purpose in life to always point out that…

      “There sure are an awful lot of honkeys ’round here…”

      But I really don’t know why who says what, says what. I admit that I’m clueless. All I was saying is that that picture is one of many where a minority wasn’t being lynched, harassed, yelled at, blammed… They’re just there, like everyone else.

    • Carol September 13, 2010, 5:18 pm

      Benjamin

      Excuse me? Race-guilted? No, just opened eyes.
      Left-leaning? Yes. Proudly so. “Honkies?” I use that word, as any other race-based term as often as I use the numerous race-based terms on every other side, which is to say never.

      Not addressed to you, Benjamin, but to the article itself: It would seem that there was no bigger Keynsian effort than we saw during the Republican dominated first 6 years of this century. My understanding is that we netted 3 million new jobs up until all the misdeeds from both sides of the aisle finally caught up with us with the crash of the last domestic large-scale manufacturing sector, which was, of course, the real estate boom. And as an inveterate left-leaner, I’ve heard the tale that the roaring 90s were a boon to full-time employment thanks to the combined efforts of Bill Clinton and the Contract (on) For America. The trouble is that those reputed 18 million or 19 million jobs were bifurcated into real estate/finance and burger flipper class jobs. Nothing in engineering. Nothing in manufacturing domestically besides housing and office buildings. The reason, of course, is that all the wealth-producing, so-called “low skilled” manufacturing jobs had already been largely outsourced. Add to that the factor that domestic mega multinationals erected a wall between customer feedback and goods or services by outsourcing customer service to India.

      As for the health of the economy as a whole, past, present and future, please see the charts and article at this site:

      http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/183929-sober-realist/21758-the-wealth-gap-and-the-collapse-of-the-u-s

      If I had a hero in today’s private sector, it would be Alan Mulally of Ford who, presumably with the board’s permission, hocked the entire company down to its blue oval for private sector financing. Additionally, as opposed to GM whose board had no “car guys” on board nor any techies besides one computer software guy, Mulally brought with him easily transferable skills and understanding of transportation and engineering to Ford. As a third generation GM owner, I’m taken completely by surprise at my enthusiasm this development brings to a former Ford hater.

    • Chris T. September 13, 2010, 5:52 pm

      It’s people like you, Carol, who always see racism in everything the “majority” does, other than, of course, when an elite part of that “majority” does something clearly favoring one or more “minorities” in one way or another based on only that/those group/s being a “minority” by whatever ethnic/racial/biological/sex (not gender, that is solely a grammatical term )/preferential/belief difference is the one being favored.

      Carol, you surely believe that those two ex-cons in Texas committed a racial-hate crime, when they dragged the third ex-con to death behind their car sometime ago, don’t you? Because of course they were white, and the he was black. Thus in your world, racially motivated.
      But you surely also believe that, any black-on-white crime is not racially motivated, rather motivated “ONLY” to get some money (in a robbery) or pleasure (in a rape), which are, in your world, much less nefarious purposes, than when an ethnicity itself is a target.

      In your world, the Wichita massacre (which you probably have never heard of) was not a race-hate crime, but the Texas incident was — because only white people commit hate crimes.

      Of course, the fact that all three ex-cons in Texas knew each other from prison, and that one of the two perpetrators was gang-raped by the victim’s prison gang (if not necessarily by the victim himself) would never let people with your thought patterns accept the fact that anything other than “racial-hate”, ie. revenge pure and simple, could have been the motivating factor.
      Ah, the bliss of blinders!

    • Jim K September 13, 2010, 7:07 pm

      The Bonfire is already lit! – it is the Gold market. As the FRN’s are shoveled into the gold market, the flames will rise higher and higher. That is the revolutionary act – to buy gold – also, to grow food, and meet needs locally. Produce, transact, and save outside of the system’s arena.

      Perhaps the ideal outcome is another Republican failure, to follow the Democrat’s failure, setting the stage for a third party to take over in 2012. The greatest challenge is keeping the first two out of the Third Party. They will use every trick to co-opt the recovery – including impersonation.

      How about this for stimulus: Fed Govt loans money to States to buy land for community gardens – every shortcut to urban food self sufficiency seems like an actual emergency worthy of such an intervention.

    • Carol September 13, 2010, 8:10 pm

      Chris T
      It is people like me who do not focus on preferences for any race, gender, sex, etc. I believe the example I cited speaks for itself, all denials by the Tea Party notwithstanding. I don’t listen to Rush who delighted in playing “Barack the Magic Negro”, don’t vote Republican one of whose finalists for chair of the RNC sang the same song practically forcing the RNC to elect Mr. Steele to forestall the charge of racism, or Michael Savage who told his African-American caller to take the bone out of his nose and calls people of color Turd World people, or invite the surgeon against the bogus health insurance “reform” bill portraying Obama as an African chief with a bone in his nose (now called Obamacare while its DNA is pure Republican outlines by the Nixon admin, passed nearly in whole with the same terms as Romneycare in Mass. and breaking the bank there) – and no, I didn’t support it because it just continues government support of big pharma and the “private” health insurers on the same cost plus basis as the arms industry. I don’t listen to the folks who insist that Obama’s “not one of us”, or a Muslim. I don’t listen to the “birthers” who are apparently still not convinced that Hawai’i is not in the U.S. I don’t listen to Newt when he espouses the same stuff or, as he recently said, is somehow, like his father who abandoned him at the age of 2, an anti-colonial socialist (a dog whistle if there ever was one). I most assuredly don’t waste a second on Fox “News” or the AM band of the radio. I do, however, consult information sources from all over the map and make up my own mind. Racism by any other name is racism, denialists (like the Holocaust deniers) notwithstanding. Several years ago, there was an openly gay man who was a journalist, wrote a character assassinating book on Hillary (no, I’m not a fan of hers because I’m not convinced she’d follow Bill’s policies, of which I am not a fan) – his conscience bothered him and he was suddenly persona non grata amongst his former friends in the “conservative” movement. BTW, I see nothing conservative about that movement. I’m frankly too busy to get swallowed up in every little twist and turn the Fox or Rush or any other hate and fear monger puts out for their employees in the Republican party. BTW, Michael Steele recently said that he scares the Republican party. Deny all this all you want, but, as I said before, racism by any other name…. And I have known some perfectly nice black Republicans, there just aren’t that many. Wonder why?

      Otherwise, I have no comment on the rest of your response. I am honest enough, unlike the deniers, to admit ignorance of these cases.

      I think, considering the ascendency of Asia and all those other-hued people that it’s time we all wake up from our internecine demographic warfare and realize that no matter what group we belong to, we all have to compete. Seems to me that a national sense of cooperation would work better than another several years of culture war. I don’t know about you but I prefer that Americans prosper, not China which, with the vestiges of its authoritarianism regarding heavy-handed political repression, appears to care more for the prosperity of great big gobs of its citizens than we do about ours.

    • mikeck September 14, 2010, 1:45 am

      Ben wrote, “Actually, I hope the republicans do get it all.” Fortunately for us, that is not possible this year…nothing destroys freedom quicker than one wing of the tyranny party holding it all.

      I call the real thing, TEA Party, i.e. Taxed Enough Already!!! Tea has nothing to do with it.

      I see that you have attracted a tar baby…look it up before calling me a racist…my favorite and most passionate Ron Paul supporter is, well, she says black, but I say a very intelligent human being.

      Mike

    • Benjamin September 14, 2010, 2:32 am

      mikeck,

      “I call the real thing, TEA Party, i.e. Taxed Enough Already!!! Tea has nothing to do with it.”

      I know, but when this thing first “hit the air waves”, people literally were doing the symbolic tea-toss. But I’m going to pick on TEA, too. What good is it to say Taxed Enough Already? They know that! Everyone knows that! To keep saying it is like one of them English cops, without a gun…

      “Stop! Or I’ll say… stop again!”

      I’m scared. So scared, in fact, that I can’t stop hitting the “tax the peasants” button. That happens, you know. People get scared, they freeze, and they get stuck in a repetitive stupor. That must be why our guvmint doesn’t listen. They’re TOO scared of us!

      Uh-huh. Right. What this era in history needs is some balls and some action. I’m all for peaceful Revolution, but without some teeth to say that we MEAN IT, this is not going to get off the ground, let alone soar. A good ol’ fashioned FRN bonfire party is of course not violent, just meaningful in a big way. If anyone were going to get violent about it, it would be the bankers and govt.

      @Carol

      The “awful lot of honkeys” comment wasn’t about names, but rather about those Jessie Jacksons and, worse, the white versions of him who always, first and ONLY thing, make loud note over how many minorities aren’t in a given group in a given sitution. That, to them, is “racism”.

      Anyway, every possible group and sub-group has real racists among them. It’s soooo bloody annoying to have to listen to people berate the Tea Party over the racists among them, when the boorish critics have them in their groups as well. They’ll count the number of blacks at a Tea rally, but they never, oddly enough, have a ratio of real racists to just decent people.

    • Benjamin September 14, 2010, 3:28 am

      JimK: “How about this for stimulus: Fed Govt loans money to States to buy land for community gardens – every shortcut to urban food self sufficiency seems like an actual emergency worthy of such an intervention.”

      How about this: No. The only money govt has to loan is taxes that they haven’t yet collected. We don’t need more loans.

      Then there’s the idea of community gardens, which is troubling thing apart from more borrowing. What is funny about this trend (I live in Chicago. Mayor Dalely is big on these things) is that there’s no way that they can feed a city.

      Think about this… You have a city like Detroit. I haven’t kept up on this story, but earlier this year, as well as last year, there was talk about bulldozing the abandoned buildings and houses, relocating the remaining residents, and turning the city into one big, community garden. Trouble there is, once you evict the people, just who is supposed to work and feed off that mega-farm? Right. The farm wouldn’t BE built. So here’s what I see coming from the whole community garden/totally bankrupt country situation…

      Chicago, NYC, LA… They’re still highly inhabited. But if people are forced to leave because city/state funding can’t afford to keep up anything anyway… Whether that is what the FEMA camps are for or not is anyone’s guess. Personally, I think the govt would start an equall distribution program, to smooth out population disparities. Some freedom that is!

      So while it sounds all good and well for people to remember how to be Amish, it’s Pilgrim BS. The Pilgrims, btw, started off as communist utopians that figured one big garden was the way to do things. They learned quick, though, through immense failure and numerous dead, that personal ownership of land and the division of labor was the way to go.

      Anyway, it’s not hard to know how to grow food. It’s not hard to grow. What is hard is growing enough, while taking care of everything else that needs taking care of. And that is why people speak of the coming hard times. Well, we’ll have them alright, because many seemed entirely too focused and trusting of what doesn’t work, rather than fighting to regain and utilize what does, which is, much to the agrarian’s dismay, not farm-for-fall, but rather the division of labor in a truly free market.

    • Chris T. September 14, 2010, 8:26 pm

      Carol,

      Any of your criticism about Republicans I do not quibble with, and neocon shills such as Limbaugh should just be ignored (same goes for newly neo-conned shills of the left such as Olberman).

      While your comment about Obamacare being just like Romneycare (and RCs financial problems in MA) is correct, your analogy is very wrong.
      You write it in a way to imply that Obamacare is just a renamed “conservative” Republican program, when in fact, it is Romneycare, that is a socialist/statist inspired program under another name.
      Thus, the only thing one can take from this analogy is that the supposedly anti-Romney is just another statist tool.

      As far as racism being a thing of the conservatives, let me repeat my point:
      ALL of the lefts programs to redress the actual, and often mainly supposed, negative ramifications of racism, are racist themselves.
      Racism is not a “Bad” thing only, whereby only when hurt of some sort is caused is something racist.
      Racism is separating by race, pure and simple. Even when such division is made in an inoffensive context, or in with a “noble” cause, it is still racist.
      Affirmative action ALWAYS falls under this category.
      When someone like Sharpton cries racism while criticising an organization for being racist because the have less than “the supposed appropriate share” of his group-du-jour, he is himself being racist.
      This is a vice much more of the left than the right, but because it is in favor or the supposed mistreated, deemed by your ilk (politically that is_ as being acceptable, and thus not “acist”.
      Had as many white voters voted for McCain, as black voters did for Obama, your kind would have screamed “racism” audibly even for the most deaf, but where was that cry at the disproportianate black support for Obama?
      None, because they were just voting for “one of us.
      To repeat, ah the joy of blinders.