A Bear’s Bear Sees 1400-Point Dow Rally

We recently raised our forecast for the Dow Industrials to 14969, a target derived from Hidden Pivot Analysis that lies 10% above Friday’s close.  We note that it would take but a 4.2% leap from current levels to eclipse October 2007’s all-time high of 14198. Make no mistake, we are not bullish on the economy.  Far from it. Because the recently announced QE3 stimulus will do little or nothing to create jobs or strengthen America’s competitive position in the global economy, it can only end badly for investors. For better or worse, few of them actually remain, since the markets these days are too volatile to accommodate investing the old-fashioned way, with buy-and-hold strategies.  As a result, the action has come to be dominated almost entirely by technical traders whose edge lies in exploiting fleeting price discrepancies for instantaneous gain rather than in harnessing value for the long-term. They control vast sums of money, with leverage that is absolutely certain to lurch violently into reverse someday, causing the global financial system to implode.

In the meantime, with last week’s announcement that the Fed will attempt yet another round of monetary stimulus via open-ended purchases of mortgage debt and Treasury paper, traders had little choice but to shift still more money from yield-less bonds into soaring shares.  We’ve characterized the stock market’s steep rise of late as a bull trap. By this, we mean to imply that the profits traders are currently reaping by staying in stocks are destined to vanish in a trice. Some would argue that it is impossible for stocks to collapse at a time when monetary easing has never been more promiscuous.  While this may be true for the moment, at least in theory, in practice the good times on Wall Street could end overnight. Recall that it took just a single, assassin’s bullet to trigger World War I and, arguably, all of the horrors that followed in the 20th Century. Is it inconceivable, then, that a single shoulder-fired missile could have a similar, destabilizing effect on the world if it were to sink an oil tanker in the Strait of Hormuz?

A hundred other horrific possibilities exist that lie beyond imagining. The point is, the relatively good times for shareholders are fated to end with a thunderclap. Until then, we should recognize that it is hubris alone that sustains the global financial system.  Those who actually believe we are enjoying a “wealth effect” from the transparent, unmitigated fraud being perpetrated by Ben Bernanke, and who have positioned themselves aggressively in shares to take advantage of this belief, richly deserve what is coming.

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  • Chris T. September 19, 2012, 3:58 am

    Gary,

    will agree with you about your last comments behind these wars, “their” intentions, and so on.

  • Chris T. September 18, 2012, 5:46 pm

    To Gary’s point about the attack:
    Seeing the pains the US, per Amb. Rice’s comments for example, has been going to to portray this as unpremeditated, spontaneous, etc, and pin it on THE MOVIE, you just know that it has to be something completely different, if not the opposite.

    Rick has gone forth many times and shown how the explanation-du-jour of a market move (or gold’s, or the dollar’s, etc) is just so much hot-air Bullsh*t, bereft of meaning.

    The exact same thing applies to these attacks, where the powers that be ALWAYS know the reason for it right away.

    About 11 years ago, our government and our dozens of security agencies were SO CLUELESS that they were unable to prevent the death of thousands, even though the whole thing played out over about 2+ hours.
    Yet, within not much more of that time frame they KNEW FOR CERTAIN who the perpetrators were….

    Gary on your AU comment:

    “hy hasn’t GOLD’s move been thought of as pure manipulation”
    GATA anyone?

    “It’s notion of a hedge against the dollar ”
    Another PTB argument, which many others have shown to be false.
    you can put the dollar chart against gold yourself to see that for some periods it correlates, for other it inversely correlates. The former may be the more frequent, but we are ONLY talking about a short time period, about 40 years….

    “…the parabolic rise in the metal”

    Can you please show me the parabola?
    It’s NOT THERE, esp. on a semi-log chart, and even less so on a semi-log inflation adjusted chart.

    Even without the different viewing perspective, the rise from 250 (or 500, 750, etc) to todays level is a multi-year affair, hardly a parabola.

    Gold’s move from its mid 70s low to its 80s peak (about 8.5x in about 4 years), and especially the real parabolic spike of the last 1+ years of that is a different story.
    (we haven’t even seen that 8.5x factor from the last low at 256 to today, and thats been 11 years!).

    But if you see these two moves as being the same, ie parabolic, then you must willfully want to blind yourself to the facts!

  • ms September 18, 2012, 4:03 pm

    but you will tell us, Rick, when the rally is over so that we can profit from the downside too. looking forward to it.

    • gary leibowitz September 18, 2012, 9:35 pm

      Chris,

      You are right, Gold is nowhere near parabolic. It is setting up for a parabolic move, but I suspect it will not happen for a couple of years still.

  • gary leibowitz September 18, 2012, 2:59 pm

    Rick,
    Now there is the difference between you and me. The original attack was believed to be carried out by Al-Quada, a planned attack. Not some demonstration. You see this as a mass demonstration on our way of life. The number of protesters in other coutries was not discussed. I find that strange. The last time I checked they were thought to be in the low hundreds. Not exactly a mass riot on our hands. In fact we have such demonstrations all the time. Wouldn’t exactly call our demonstrations a collapse of our system.

    http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2012/09/anti-american-savages-of-post-american.html

    %%%%%

    Try re-reading the essay, Gary, since you have entirely missed its point — and mine as well. RA

    • gary leibowitz September 18, 2012, 5:43 pm

      The piece is pure propaganda. You start with a premise that the mass Muslim world is out for distruction and violence when it is crystal clear that is not the case. Now you want me to read this drivel about how we have to suspend our Bill of Rights to appease the war mongerling muslims?

      How about real tolerance towards other nations and way of life that is foreign to our upbringing. How about our involvement to control these third world nations with puppet dictators? How many years were we the true villian in destroying any hopes of self autonomy by these nations? Now you question why we should tame our behavior towards other nations? They did not ask for our Bill of Rights. They will enact their own laws, if allowed to. It might include a religious fervor that is foreign to our way. So be it.

      To suggest the only true way is ours is what got us in this mess to begin with. We can’t dictate our way on others. What we can to is be tolerant of them when it does us no harm. Yes I think we should be careful, even apologetic to other nations that get offended by our freedoms. Let them choose their nation their way.

      You once again start this debate with the argument that all muslims are one way, and it is the way that is protrayed by the protesters. Not true. How many actually did protest? How many different groups do we have that protest every decision made. Are they representative of this whole nation?

      Christianity has done its share of killing. In fact a majority of wars and hatred is over religion. Now you pretend to know the mind of the muslim?

      Please show me the amount of violence and protests around the world. I need numbers and actual violent actions. Thank You. Perhaps I am missing something.

    • gary leibowitz September 18, 2012, 6:00 pm

      BTW, if you want to be shameful do so when our President silenced all protests against the fake Iraq war. Bush called all news reporters that dared to question the validity of the war as un-american. And it stuck. To this day we shamefully ignore the fact that we declared war on those savages for political reasons with absolutely no veneer of an excuse. There was a buried mercedes uncovered, but like the mortgage debacle, no repercussions.

      I suppose our advanced civilized way should be followed and admired by all. Don’t accept that they were under dictatorships that we sponsored. Don’t allow other nations to be behind us in their development. No, we must force all to accept our way even as our way is changing also.

    • gary leibowitz September 18, 2012, 6:16 pm

      Rick, perhaps you should have displayed this article instead. It does present the problem in a more balanced light.

      http://nation.time.com/2012/09/18/free-speech-religion-clash-over-anti-muslim-film/

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      Gary, why don’t you give it a rest? How can you have so much time on your hands that you are able to write three or four responses to each of my posts? Whatever the case, I have neither the time nor energy to keep up with you. RA

  • John Jay September 18, 2012, 7:37 am

    Re: Hoarding Gold
    At some point, you might want to spend some of it.
    You really can’t take it with you.

    “Nevada recluse dies with $200 in bank, $7 million in gold at home”

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-carson-city-gold-20120917,0,5763811.story

  • Chris T. September 17, 2012, 11:37 pm

    Gary L.:
    “…to destroy the elite is to destroy the democratic system…”

    I don’t think you intended to mean with your statement what it really means:
    the democratic system as we have it today is the best system ever designed for the elite to rule everyone else, because it makes everyone else believe they are free.
    In that way it is much better than any other oppressive regime, because people willingly go along.

    Even the (probably) oldest “organized” religion (heretofore the best form or social control, with a millenial track record) Hinduism, lost / is losing its control to “democracy”.
    Course I doubt that the “d” will make it for as long as Hinduism did….

    So, if we destroy the elite and the “democratic” system, SO WHAT?
    The USA was not supposed to be, and not founded to be a democracy, but a republic, in fact the problems with the “democracy” of today was known to plenty of the founding generation, and they warned about that, tried to implement systemic checks on its growth, etc.
    Obviously, they failed

    One of the main steps in that process was the 17th amendment btw.

    • gary leibowitz September 18, 2012, 4:56 am

      Chris,
      All political systems have the select few to rule, but in a democratic one you can vote them out; you can actually elect a third party. In a democratic one we always see swings from too much control to too few. I see no reason to think lax rules and discarded laws will not be reenated again. Call me an optimist but i see no reason why history will steer off course this time around.

      BTW, the question on how AAPL can be valued so high has just been answered. 2 million phones sold in the first 24 hours. Can’t get any better than that. The power of a company dominating in its segment has just been shown. That is one of Buffett’s prime reasons for buying a company, market dominance. Numbers don’t lie.

      The election is all but won already and the market knows it. No unknown variable there. What will derail this before the elections, or even 2 months after? Not much. I suppose if the economic data falls off a cliff, war, terrorism, or the like, that could see a dramatic drop. Give those odds 1 in 100 at best.

    • gary leibowitz September 18, 2012, 5:13 am

      As for the so called manipulation in copper, here is the streets answer.

      “Three-Month Copper Rises $8,072.75
      Monday September 10, 2012, 11:52am PDT
      Bloomberg reported that three-month copper price reached six-month highs on the speculation that policy makers in the US and China will take measures to boost the economy with stimulus packages.”

      I believe China controls 40 percent of the market. Their huge infrastructure project is a good reason for the boost, as is the QE3 announcement. The street reacts sometimes way ahead of real data. It’s called speculation.

      Why hasn’t GOLD’s move been thought of as pure manipulation. It’s industrial needs are a small percentage of the warehoused stuff. It has anticipated hyper-inflation for a very long time but has not seen any inroads. It’s notion of a hedge against the dollar has proven to be wrong since the dollars decline is nowhere near the parabolic rise in the metal. Seems some commodities get a golden pass while others don’t.

    • gary leibowitz September 18, 2012, 5:50 am

      Last bit of info: Any correction from here should be shallow. My ending target is 1680 on SPX by early next year. If it hits by March of 2013 I will wait for the technicals to tell me it is over. Once over a 50 percent drop will be seen. Something this blog has been anxiously awaiting. The low for the next cycle should be at end of year in 2014.

      Aint this fun! Mind you this is pure speculation on my part.

  • Chris T. September 17, 2012, 11:21 pm

    the three “oh my lord” responses to Clark M’s post lay it out pretty clearly.

    Anyone who has the good sense to read Rick’s musings should by now have come to realize that nothing of substances changes, whether it’s the D or R running things: they’re the same.
    (just one’s open eyes and mind should show that it’s the same-old same old, whether Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, etc.)

    Just on a personal level for Romney:
    The present day monetary order is one that made Mitt rich. Why would he be opposed to that, if not philosophically, then at least in practice?
    He’s not of course.
    And if he so much as showed any opposition, he wouldn’t be the other side’s nominee, or be quickly shown how things work:
    11/22/63 (as per BDTR above)
    6/17/72 ff.
    3/30/81

    If you want to know how selection process works, where/how these people are groomed for the job, you should read this article by Gary North:

    http://lewrockwell.com/north/north1188.html
    http://lewrockwell.com/north/north1193.html

  • Mark September 17, 2012, 11:20 pm

    I live in NZ so don’t am not affected by the US tax changes that will take effect on 1 Jan 2013.

    Do US investors not plan to sell assets prior to this date to lock in capital gains, or sell dividend paying assets because these may fall on 1 Jan 2013?

    I would be very interested to hear your honest response.

    Tax Changes that come into effect on 1 Jan 2013:
    http://maascapital.com/taxes-and-a-wary-eye-on-2013

    When the taxpayer combines the impact of the Health Care Act and the Tax Relief Act, the total tax rate on dividends increases from 15% pre-January 1, 2013 to 43.4% (39.6% ordinary tax rate plus 3.8% Medicare tax) post-January 1, 2013, for taxpayers in the highest income tax bracket. Capital gains on sales of investments will increase from 15% pre-January 1, 2013 to 23.8% (20% capital gains rate plus 3.8% Medicare tax) post-January 1, 2013.

    I am sure that many investors will not wait until the last day in December to do something?

    Great thoughtful stream of comments above. Thanks, Mark

  • ter September 17, 2012, 10:30 pm

    Mario, thank you. Red, I don’t think votes for presidents and US senators are trustworthy, not just because the computers which count them–a mere tabulating–are supposedly so advanced technologically that any prying into their programmed operations–like changing every 5th vote for X to a vote for Y–in the public’s interest is seen as an invasion of proprietariness by-their makers, and a breach of contract. Furthermore, voter fraud is commonplace. Note the Democrats wailing and teeth gnashing over the simple requirement to present a photo ID. Under Clinton, they passed Motor Voter, so all you needed was a fraudulent drivers license to register to vote. They push for absentee ballots, so Fido Fernandez can mail in his owner’s selections. Absentee ballots are appropriate for military personnel, and those who know they’ll be elsewhere on November’s First Tuesday. None else. Early voting is the way to accommodate or convenience those who wish to avoid long lines on November 4. To vote early in Florida, you must present a picture ID, like the newer, harder to falsify, drivers licenses.

    We had a reliable punchcard system in Florida until the 2000 election. You’ve heard/read the media’s massaged version of the truth. Anyway, Bush and the Republican Congress hastily enacted a law subsidizing,and, I believe, requiring the adoption of computerized voting machines, whose results aren’t subject to challenge, though producing astounding results, like the election of Lindsay Graham(R-SC) in 2002. On the other hand, I doubt there’s manipulation of votes for state, county, and municipal (exempting cities like Chicago) offices, or of most ballot questions/propositions. So, in sum, I think MOST of one’s votes are counted correctly, and, probably all cast in primaries.

  • John Jay September 17, 2012, 9:24 pm

    The entire world is now following the US “print to prosperity” model.
    The entire world has become a Police State.
    There is nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.
    You can pile up gold and silver.
    You can game the markets.
    In Micro Economic terms you can come out on top.
    But when Society collapses, it’s Dr Zhivago time.
    All you can do is pray the US goes down last so you don’t have to bury your gold and silver in the back yard as the mob approaches.
    Only for it to dug up by some guy 2,000 years from today using the latest WalMart Mass Spectrometer Treasure Detector.
    All of those coin hoards from Roman times being found today did not get buried back then because Society was safe and stable.
    We now have China and Japan squaring off.
    MENA boiling over.
    The EU following our business model.
    Non of this fills me with confidence for my future.
    Only dread.

    • fallingman September 17, 2012, 9:56 pm

      You have a way with words sir. Spot on.

      Dr. Zhivago time indeed. I take it you don’t think “democracy” can be saved.

      Just kidding.

    • mario cavolo September 18, 2012, 5:23 am

      well said….but don’t worry too much about the China Japan thing…its just chest puffing and weiner wagging… They and most govts are fully aware there is far too much to lose by escalating military action and violence; that’s a massive deterrent.

  • Chuck September 17, 2012, 7:42 pm

    I also am confused…..I thought the RA strategy was to stay out in case a flash sell off occurs…..and according to RA there is no hope in exiting easily if that happens…..??

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  • Carol September 17, 2012, 6:16 pm

    I personally never want to give the elites the belief that I want ANY OF THEM being my “Leader” (as if I need any leader).

    I am not a registered voter and realized years ago that we do NOT have a democracy so I quit playing their game.

    The best any of us can do is quit playing their game. As long as they get a “decent” turn out they beleive that they have the “mandate from the people” to continue to loot and enslave us all.

    • redwilldanaher September 18, 2012, 4:17 pm

      I think we can do more. I think we can topple their game and anything less than trying to do exactly that is a form of cowardice.

  • fallingman September 17, 2012, 5:14 pm

    Well said Rick. Another beautifully written article.

  • ter September 17, 2012, 5:13 pm

    If you despise the major party candidates, and aren’t knowledgeable about the others, you still should vote. You can vote against new bond issues, and old politicians. Many offices are usually contested; Yes or No questions posed. Don’t re-elect US senators or House members. Sending oafs and scoundrels back to D.C. for two to six years tells them they can safely ignore your wishes, as they did passing TARP in 2008, and Ob amacare, and will do in 2013 by enacting a massive amnesty program for illicit border crossers, and, possibly. acceding to a presidential declaration of martial law. The longer they’ve been at The Capitol, the more deserving of retirement they are.

    A low turn-out in November will magnify the importance of your vote. Just 10% voted in an August primary in Broward County (FL) which chose/elected important “non-political” county officers–viz.. sheriff, elections supervisor, county clerk. Voting’s NOT a duty, but a too infrequent opportunity. If you’ve been paying attention to what government at all levels has been doing to you, you must vote. If you haven’t a clue. skip it.

    • mario cavolo September 17, 2012, 5:36 pm

      Nice points ter, you explained some meaning and value in voting nicely….Cheers, Mario

    • redwilldanaher September 17, 2012, 6:07 pm

      A vote is a vote to keep playing their game.

      How can you trust the election results?

      Can’t wait to read the answers regarding this question.

    • Carol September 17, 2012, 6:12 pm

      Red as you noted

      “It is not who votes but who counts the votes that count”

    • Chris T. September 17, 2012, 11:44 pm

      plus every vote serves to legitimize “them”.
      There is a benefit to low turnour as well….

  • Robert September 17, 2012, 3:35 pm

    The choice between Romney and Obama is no more relevant than the “choice” between having a pink muppet versus a yellow muppet give you a lesson about world affairs on an episode of Sesame Street.

    There will be other names on the Presidential ballot. I don’t know which one of them I will punch, but I do know that I can fulfill my duty to country by voting without sacrificing my personal ethics.

    Both the mainstream parties have made clear their intention to placate smaller and smaller groups of dueling oligopolies, while transferring the bill to the unwashed masses. I will choose not to play a game of Monopoly where the rules are feverishly being re-written by the most bankrupt players at the table; under the notion that continuing to pass the dice around the table is the most important reason for continuing to play.

    I have lost my ambition for passing Go. It’s simply not worth the risk of randomly landing on the “Go directly to Jail” square.

    I have one objective on Nov 6. It’s all going to be about being able to live with myself as I walk out of that balloting station. That’s it.

  • Jill September 17, 2012, 6:41 am

    I think you must have Romney confused with Ron Paul. If Romney would fire Ben, whoever he replaced him with would be no different. No candidate gets nominated by either of the major parties without the big banksters’ blessing. The big banksters control the president & the Fed– not vice versa.

  • gary leibowitz September 17, 2012, 6:32 am

    The QE3 announcement I wasn’t expecting. The obsessive nature of expecting every single sharp rally as being the top must have you sweatng every time you present a long position. You in affect are betting against yourself.

    As for the outcome of the election making a difference, It will definitely not. The end game will remain the same. The approach and pain felt by the masses will be drastically different. Just as FDR was blamed for prolonging the great depression, I believe he also lessened the pain felt by the middle class. There is no such thing as allowing nature to take its course without exerting maximum pain at the time. This is not some history book where you can weigh the benefit of purging the system by showing it only took 10 years as opposed to 30 years of a slow recovery.

    Clark Mandrell mentioned how we must make drastic changes and showed the result of staying the course. What he didn’t show, and no one here has done, was tell us how the needed change will benefit us in the future. It is easy to criticize without having specific solutions. To destroy the elite is to destroy the democratic system. Marxism will never work in the real world. Our financial system is build on the backs of the elite. It is also where all the corruption comes from. Now you must be wondering why I defend the top owners of this system. I do so because in every single workable system there has always been the few that control. Every single system. It’s the balance of power that swings back and forth. We are about to experience a shift in power. It will be painfull to all but necessery in a democratic system. I prefer the long drawn out version like FDR subscribed to.

    Rick,
    I believe Nostradamus predicted this world will be producing historical events for another 1500 years. Why would you interpret any doom scenario is coming soon. In fact most historians thought his prophesies were a way to get back at the current government without being persecuted. None of his prediction were ever interpreted “before” an event took place. He uses vagueness as a medium uses “tells” from the person he/she is giving afterworld advice. Absurd. Please show me one prediction that WILL happen and when? Please show me why the hundreds of supposed prophesies that did come true wasn’t reinterpreted for hundreds of years using the same exact prophesy.

    I see absolutely no current event that will cause the crash you elude to. Not till mid to late December at the earliest. I suppose we can alway have another attack on our soil, or a major war break out, but that is never predictable, nor should you stay away from investing becuase of these possibilities. Look at the cold war after WWII. The bomb was a scary thing and world event during the 50’s and 60’s could have easily started a nuclear war. To be consumed by a crash or end of world event, prevents you from living in the here and now. It robs you of lifes pleasures. It is also irrational since you would be helpless to prevent these events from happening anyway.

    In any event my gains from December can only be negated if the SPX falls to 1200. Anyone lucky enough to start investing 4 years ago would mean it would be impossible to be caught off guard no matter how bad the supposed next crash brings. Fear must always be taken out of the equation when investing. Place blinders on. Emotional blinders that is. Use your own intelligence and “method” in an unemotional way. Thats always produces better results. To expect a crash at every corner, without any warning, or the ability to exit is extremely unlikely. People get caught in crashes because they allow emotions to take over. Fear immobilizes people.

    Finally, as conspiracies goes GOLD should be on everyones top list. It has gone parabolic with a dollar that is steady, industrial use limited and not increasing, as a hedge against a disaster or hyper-inflation. Talk about “controlling” this sucka. But wait, no one here thinks that is true and excuses the lat 6 years as a delayed reaction to “What Will Happen Eventually”. How silly is that! Consumables use real supply/demand and expected future demand to determine price. As far as non-consumables, like copper, please show me studies that suggest its demand will wane. Show me an analyst review that gives clear indication of manipulation. China, the biggest user, and no one thinks demand will rise?

    • mario cavolo September 17, 2012, 3:04 pm

      Hi Gary, Well, I would have to add that your comment about the few always being in control is pretty accurate through history, however you should be questioning and easily noticing the relative degree of corruption by the numbers, of unfairness, of advantage to those few in the current state of affairs. It is now far beyond anything historically before it, especially looking at it in simple percentages and sheer numbers. It all started if my common sense is not mistaken with the repeal of Glass Steagal and forwarding to today, again we’re talking about a govt GIVING a couple TRILLION dollars to its banking system with the unquestioned continuation of BILLIONS in compensation to its individual few oligarchs and many of their key employees! There’s not even a requirement or impetus by the U.S. political leaders to request that such outrageous excess are brought under control as a prerequisite to the funding they are getting. A guy in America is supposed to feel ok about honestly paying his taxes on his minimum wage job when his own kids can’t afford college and he knows the govt is giving a chunk of that money to bailout broke banks whose execs are being paid millions? Its govt backed and endorsed larceny!

      “Hi, I screwed up my pizza parlor business. My own salary by the way is a cool two million. Will you bail me out with taxpayer money? Yes, people need to eat. Oh thanks. By the way, do I need to cut my two million salary? No.” Geez.

      When Lehman went under, the law firms representing them for “work” that needed to be done invoiced out and was paid 21 MILLION dollars, in legal fees to who?…to how many lawyers? perhaps 75? They get to divide up 21 million and then a month later the Fed let ’em go bankrupt and 50,000 across the world lost their jobs, many of whom had their lives with their familes destroyed since? Never once did anyone in leadership position question nor require to reign in how much all these f&^%$ng oligarch wall street cronies were paying each other?

      Second point I’d like to mention. You stated “We are about to experience a shift in power. It will be painful to all but necessery in a democratic system…?”

      WHAT democratic system? Where is it? Its GONE Gary. The idea that America is in a meaningful way, as intended, in spirit, or in practice, a democracy is an insult to human reasonable intelligence; that any voter could be stupid enough to vote thinking his vote today has any original meaning and value as intended at all when billions from the oligarchs, corporations, lobbyists, special interest groups are controlling the entire process. The true popular vote is not what determines elections in the USA. If it was, for example, Bush never would have been re-elected after blatantly lying about the situation with Sadam. Thousands of innocent people being killed on a massive lie by a politician yet he is re-elected? How s that fathomable? Yet it happened. Actually, you probably agree with most of what I am pointing out here. I’m concerned you are not seeing how severe, how unprecedented it all is by the numbers.

      Some can give the “you have the precious right to vote that your ancestors died for ” argument. In doing so, a person ignores that the system has been manipulated, corrupted and slanted to that vote having less and less legitimate meaning and impact as intended when created. How much did we freak out at how much Bush raised in campaign funds? And now hasn’t Obama raised like triple that amount? Yet, no one is freaking out about it anymore. Everyone is numb. The depth and degree of the corruption is so complete that is it now part of the new normal. I have absolutely no desire nor agenda to be anti-American. I am simply sad and frustrated and angry as I see what is happening there in that country which my Italian family ancestors immigrated to a hundred years ago in search of a better life. Enough…

      Cheers, Mario

    • fallingman September 17, 2012, 5:27 pm

      MC,

      I get your points. I largely share your perspective. And…

      The guy working a minimum wage job who has kids would not only not pay any income taxes, he would get money transferred to him in the form of the earned income credit and be eligible for a raft of government “benefits.” He ain’t payin’ nuthin. By the way, there are very few adult males working minimum wage jobs.

      He would get dinged by payroll taxes, but as we all know, those go into a LOCK BOX to fund his future needs under Social Security and Medicare, so he doesn’t have to worry about that money being expropriated and handed over to bankers to cover their fannies.

      Finally, forgive me, but the word is rein…rein in. (And Gary, the word is “effect” in case you’re tuned in.)

    • mario cavolo September 17, 2012, 5:43 pm

      Ah right, good points, understand exactly what you mean about the increasing numbers o fminimum wage families, at that level they’ll pay very low income taxes plus get benefits and credits those making 30k won’t… I think the system more and more encourages people to get on the dole to get their own fair share of govt benefits they possibly can, not a healthy fiscal state of affairs. Everyone sees the bankers gaming the system for billions, including plenty directly into their own pockets, so this leads more and more to a decline in ethics; more and more people following the same idea to get whatever they can gaming the system. I’d heard a few years back this was a similar problem manifesting in the UK, too many people on the dole, including a flood of immigrants who, again, knew how to game the system to get money for nothing…

      Cheers, Mario

    • gary leibowitz September 17, 2012, 5:58 pm

      Mario,
      I take your point most wholeheartedly. I still do not believe democracy is dead. In fact this episode is not so unlike others. Complacency by the citizens is replaced by fear and then outrage. Just as the late 20’s and 30’s saw a big shift culminating in laws and legislation that gave some power back to the common man, so too will this cycle. Do not despair, it always looks worse from the inside. Do you not see that every past cycle of greed and despair has been followed by a higher standard of living for the middle class. These cycles run 70 years or so. Most do not actually see the change, but they are real. Each generation has been improved upon from the past one. I see no reason to conclude the next will be any different.

      &&&&&&

      …and speaking of Democracy not being dead:

      http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2012/09/anti-american-savages-of-post-american.html

      RA

    • redwilldanaher September 18, 2012, 4:16 pm

      Gary, I hadn’t thought it possible but your response to Mario suggests that you’re more lost than ever…

  • Clark Mandrell September 17, 2012, 4:56 am

    Rick,
    Until this past Thursday I had been in favor of Obama winning the election. When I saw what QE3 was going to be I realized that Romney must win. He has to Fire Ben B. QE3 is nothing more than a wealth transfer from the middle class to the elite rich. All the toxic loans the banks are carrying on their books and can’t get rid of without going broke themselves is now going to be transferred to the America people. The middle class are the ones who pay the bulk of the income taxes in this country. Our goverment will have to raise taxes in later years to pay for all the debt that the Feds are going to buy. The big banks are going to be able to unload all of these bad loans that have been dragging down the balance sheets off of their books to US goverment with the Fed’s purchase of these MBS. So in short term the big banks will see their stock prices go up as they become more profitable by ridding themselves of these toxic loans that the FED is going to buy.
    This has to be stopped.. BAC estimates they will be buying for the next 25 to 30 months to move that much toxic debt onto the rolls of the goverment. The big banks and Wall Street will love it because the big banks will be saved and Wall Street will like it because they can trade the stocks higher and allot of Wall Street types work for the big banks, JPM, MS, GS, WF just to name a few.
    If Romney truly wants to win, then He needs to tell the middle class over and over again for the next 7 weeks exactly what I have described here. I think I understand financies fairly well, but until Thursday I didn’t understand this, how the middle class is getting screwed and getting this debt they will have to pay back with allot higher taxes in the coming years for a very long time as well, an the rich the 1% ‘ters, the elite rich who own most of the stocks of these big banks will reap the rewards of much higher stock prices because of moving all this debt onto the back of the goverment to pay for. If I didn’t understand then I guarrantee that almost all the average middle class tax payers don’t understand this at all either. They are by and large the one’s who are going to vote Obama in for 4 more years. Well I know that once they understand this they will vote for Romney, because He said He would Fire Benny B. If He (Romney) would stay on this message He could turn this around a win the election.. Because the middle class absolutely hates the idea of higher taxes, plus to have this come in as a back door way of screwing them, they will hate it even more. I truly believe Romney could win with this message, but He has to tell it as many times as He can to any one that will listen. He has sort of talk around it some since last Thursday but if Romney would hone his message down to this and stayed on point, How the middle class is getting the debt and the taxes later on to pay for it and the rich 1% are getting the benefit. I think He could win big. They don’t know this, and someone needs to tell them the truth before it’s to late. Tell the middle class and the truth will set you free. Get rid of QE3 and fire Ben would go a long way to saving this country. But it will Win Romney the election if He tells to this enough times. I’m going to vote for Romney and I have rarely ever voted for a Republicorp before. We don’t need another 5 trillion of debt, to pay off for nothing. I just wish I knew of way of getting this message to Romney.. It is such a small thing, but they don’t know or understand what this round of QE3 is all about. I hate getting snookered and I hate taxes even more.

    • BDTR September 17, 2012, 2:50 pm

      It’s delusional on multiple levels to presume that ANY mainstream presidential candidate, incumbent or not, is voluntarily intending the end of the current financial regime. Not just because it would be personal financial and political suicide, it would be literally suicide from certain assassination.

      Da Boyz play for keeps, reference JFK about messin’ with the PTB. This isn’t about the financial philosophy of a Fed Chairman, it’s about the covert systemic underbelly foundation of the entire global financial Ponzi.

      Besides, Mittens RoboMoney’$ personal fortune is, has been acquired through massive leveraged debt of other people’s money. That and the utter incredibility of his indelibly chameleon ‘character’ leaves no guesswork that whatever comes out of his disingenuous fork-tounged mouth is opportunist blather and nothing else.

      The end game will be played out to its certain catastrophic conclusion irrespective of political pretenders wholly owned and operated by the PTB.

    • mario cavolo September 17, 2012, 3:08 pm

      Clark, I do also suggest you’re missing the key ingredients in the script of this drama that even Hollywood couldn’t write. If Romney suddenly announced that he would fire Mr. B, he would enter into “Ron Paul” type territory, marginalizing himself against the very system which is somehow allowing him to play ball in the game, their game. Its their game Clark. There’s a line that can’t be crossed if you want to play in it.That’s why the presidential office and many other politicial positions are just symbolic and powerless. They system, sad and accurate to see, is too far gone. This ain’t gonna end pretty with a glorious coming period of happy upturn and prosperity across the globe to remember in the history books; ofthat I am fairly certain,and saddened.

      Cheers, Mario

    • fallingman September 17, 2012, 5:29 pm

      Juts as a point of information…Ben Bernanke can’t be fired. He’s appointed by the President for a 4 year term. After promising change, Opuppet re-appointed the bernanke back in August of 2009. He was confirmed by the Senate in December of 2009. His term will expire in January of 2014.

      So, he’ll be up for re-appointment next summer. While he can’t be fired. Mr. Mittens could appoint someone different. He has ALREADY SAID that he would do so. Dumb move politically. It may have inspired Ben’s headlong leap into the monetary abyss last week. Gotta dance with the one that brung ya.

      Does that mean Romney’s a bona fide change agent? Hardly. The new boss would be the same as the old boss. Both Mr. Mittens and Opuppet are wholly owned subsidiaries of the JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs combine and the rest of the MIC. Neither would ever rock the boat.

    • Chris T. September 17, 2012, 11:27 pm

      Mario,

      agree with your summary, but though that sounds pessimistic, it’s not:
      so long as you hope for something better to come even after that calamity, then you’re an optimist.

      The pessimist thinks there will be no thereafter…

    • mario cavolo September 18, 2012, 5:16 am

      Not particularly healthy for one’s own state of mind to be too much of a pessimist Chris, happy to reminded of that, thanks 🙂 Mario