Far Too Many Bears for Stock Market to Crash?

[Against our own concerns that a stock-market crash is imminent, and that it will not wait until after the November elections, we must weigh the obvious fact that we have plenty of company – perhaps too much company – in the chicken-little camp. In the think-piece below, Cam Fitzgerald, a frequent contributor to the Rick’s Picks forum, expresses similar, contrarian reservations. RA]

There is just so much talk of a crash that it has almost become anti-climactic. The thing is that with so many mutual fund redemptions having taken place and so many more 401-Ks being shifted out of equities, it does seem surprising that markets keep floating, range-bound. We obviously have our suspicions.  [Forum contributor Mario Cavolo] mentioned an article that suggested that as many as 70% of all stock-exchange transactions are being attributed to high-frequency trades. Off-hand I don’t know if that is true. However, I will say this: If such trades and the insiders (you know who I mean) who are doing them are artificially inflating the markets on very thin trading, and subsequently supporting each decline in contravention of historical norms, then it follows that the technicals themselves can be manipulated.

Time to tone it down?

I do not doubt this for a second. The number of times that we have all seen sell-offs end abruptly, turning on a dime, and key support-and-resistance levels fail to be reached, have been too numerous to be merely coincidental.  What these episodes suggest cumulatively is that market intervention and manipulation are in full force. Meanwhile, there are simply not enough legitimate players remaining in the game to maintain balance in what now appears to many to be a rigged market. Moreover, there are just too many bears anticipating a crash, and too many taking short positions simultaneously. That tells to me that a gold mine of opportunity has arisen to profit off of paranoia, fear and greed, and that the few remaining participants will capitalize on the opportunity by driving prices as they choose, giving a moment’s hope here and a heartache there to make it all seem real.

Paranoid for Good Reason

Of course, this does suggest collusion, but what the hell, we live in an age of reason and enlightenment, and our paranoia is actually pretty well-founded. Our doubts are not divined from tea-leaves and smoky incense anymore but from reams of data that can easily be interpreted by most investors. Much of it does look manipulated to the casual observer. It sometimes smacks of criminality under close scrutiny. In the meantime, those with short positions, salivating at the impending conclusion to more than 80 years of generally rising stock prices and expecting windfall opportunities in a sudden crash, will only find that they have been duped into having their investments eroded away gradually, day after agonizing day.

But there is always that hope! The second and confirming Hindenburg Omen was hardly conclusive, though, was it? Does that not give anyone pause? That it was based on a margin call is suspicious, to say the least. Enough to convince the uninitiated, perhaps, but not enough to provide a meaningful and solid marker that one could draw a final conclusion from. It was so close…just so on the edge.

Beware of Short ETFs

This game will likely play out for quite some time. Beware your 3X short ETFs, because they are certain to drain your funds while you await a stock market Armageddon that will not materialize in the way you imagine – i.e., with a drum roll, thunder, lightning and a deafening crash as stocks fall (to(zero?). It’s not going to happen. Instead, imagine a long, agonizing meltdown that saps your energy and keeps you on the edge of your seat for months and months as you try to anticipate each move up or down. The psychosis of this market knows no ends.

Incidentally, we hear daily about this or that person of note who has sold “all” their equity positions to avoid collateral damage, and we all know about all the people who are bailing on the markets for the shelter of bonds, T-bills, Gold or old-fashioned cash. But I am not convinced this is the exact course that should be taken. And certainly no one should consider going all-in on any one of these unless we possess some extraordinary insights into the future that are immutable to all others.

Expect a Brutal Grind Lower

This is still a market, so you should “play” it and stop-loss against risks on a daily basis. I do not expect a hard crash anymore – just a long, slow ratcheting down of markets where all the money is still to be made playing on the bounces, both up and down even though there may not be such volatile moves on most days. Aggravating, isn’t it? We want action! We want conclusions, and some out there desperately want a crash. (stop hoping — we are all losers on that bad day).

With so many shifting into short positions, holding and waiting, it is clear to me that this is just a sucker’s game. Active traders have the advantage now if they have the skill to see the pattern of daily and weekly bounces, but buy-and-hold shorts are in for a disappointing year. At he heart of this, I believe that the measures and the metrics used in technical analysis are under attack and are being subjected to outside forces that are skewing the reliability and the results that many depend on. Under the circumstances, there is likely a surprise in store for those depending on those results. So be wary, use your head, the aces are up to bat now and the bases are loaded.

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  • ricecake August 25, 2010, 6:37 am

    Stock market is becoming a political power game. One can never separate money from power. The Democratic government is keeping the market up while the GOP is trying to crash it to scare people so that they can regain power seats. Wall Street and Bankers can be the great helping hand to make it go either side depends on which side is good to them. The public is both greedy and scary too. But you are right, the market can well be at the close range of fluctuation for years to come. There’s a power force to hedge against the crash. And crash is only good to those with lots of cash waiting at the wing to buy in bloody cheap price. I’m not in the stock market now. And I hope it crash too. But I think I can only dream for it to happen. Basically after 2008 crash, lots of people who didn’t catch that train are all waiting at the sideline washy wishly. lol.

    As for those who think Gold is the only answer, I would like to point out that If they can manipulate the stock market, the currencies, the Nukes, what make you think they can’t manipulate gold and silver? They can’t print Gold but they can regulate it or take it from you. The dollar is backed by USA’s Nukes and USA’s economic power. What backs Gold? Who can defend Gold? Still it need power to defend Gold. The Gold holders and producers can’t do it alone. Mongolia has rich Gold deposit. But Mongolia is an underdeveloped harsh and poor country. Do you want to hold the Mongolia currency or the US $? Of course I want the dollar.

    p.s. All the risks so far are known so they already prepared back up plans. Unless if there will be really bad things happen (black swan) unexpectedly, the stock market will hang there above around 10000.

    But what are the black swans out there in the hiding, do you know?

  • TKO August 24, 2010, 11:53 pm

    I never thought RA could be cajoled into being a PC tree hugging namby pamby. The original bear photo reminded me of a fishing trip way up in Canada in the early 60’s. After driving to the outskirts of civilisation, we observed a gigantic lake spreading east for miles with a logging road alongside. As we navigated this road we passed an old quarry, used as a dump, with about 40 bears feeding on the garbage. We set up camp about a mile further, where a stream emptied into the lake. A short while later a French Canadian family set up camp about 100 yards away. Later that night the bears raided their camp and we were awakened by the screams and yelling, as the family retreated into their car. My father, who was prepared for this possibility, produced a three inch long firecracker and suggested that i rescue the family by flinging it at the bears. I nervously made it about half way to the bears in the dark, lit and tossed the charge, and made good my escape. The ensuing thunderous report chased the bears away; however, no amount of coaxing or assurances could convince the Canadiennes to leave the safety of their car. At daybreak, they packed up and left and we went fishing on the lake. At about noon, as we were rowing back to camp, the lake echoed with the sound of rapid and sustained gunfire for a full minute. My father, veteran of North Africa and France, indicated that they were military rifles and at least one machine gun. Intrigued, after lunch we headed out to discover what had caused the commotion. Apparently, the French had complained to the authorities, for as we passed the quarry, we saw a logging truck equipped with a crane in the process of loading 30 dead bears onto the bed. Standing nearby were 4 resplendant Mounties with a BAR and assorted rifles in the back of their pickup.
    The authorities and the powers that be will always attempt to support the market and being a bear can be very dangerous to your financial health. That said, the technicals have been deteriorating and the possibility of a flash crash of a greater scope and duration is a distinct possibilty. Watch those support levels and when justified take a shot at some of those deep out of the money puts just for fun.

  • Rich August 24, 2010, 10:48 pm

    Aloha All

    The friendly skies are unsettled, with Space Weather forecasts for more. Seems not only is the Full Moon Rising, the Sun has sprung a leak hitting earth.

    http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/today.html

    Yesterday saw a bear cub hit by a car on Brockway Summit. Sad. Stunning even. People drove by and stared at the bloody fallen man of the forest in a dark fur suit.

    If this is the widely advertised Summer Recovery, then down looks like up and wrong looks right.

    The QEII, neoCon bombing of Iran window apparently came and went with few more market explosions. BP went up and went down and 74% of the oil disappeared and was found hiding with Corexit in the depths as the seafood markets were reopened with fishermen forced to assume liability.

    So far it was sell before May and just go away, with few quick bounces (Independence Day) to raise cash.

    Even Doug Kass on CNBC bought PRU and the moderately bullish financials case today, because there are so many bears going into hibernation.

    (PRU 51 with a 42 PnF target.)
    http://stockcharts.com/charts/gallery.html?s=pru

    I am not so sure these are the times for hibernation or middling moderation before boring market doldrums turn into sheer panic.

    Agree with Edward’s observation crashes invariably come from deeply oversold levels, just as new highs follow overbought conditions.

    Just have a hard time buying tops and selling bottoms, so use Trailing Buy and Sell Stops to do it, mentally if not electronically, to avoid the risk of being run by the market mafia or ruined by internet disruptions.

    Including today, we arguably had five near-HO’s in less than a fortnight, with lower highs and lows as Rick’s ABCD’s point out. This time could be different, HO.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindenburg_Omen

    It’s not every day we see red on most future asset allocations, increasingly the case with Big4, based on a few large traders who make the most money, up 1347% in the model portfolio y-t-d.

    When Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh and Tony Robbins headline HO’s, it would be very contrary and inhospitable of Mrs Market to spring a head fake Labour Day summer relapse bull trap by Autumn, when so many least expect it.

    After all, just a few days ago at the opening, before the beginning of the second leg of the downdraft, we had 10 opening put buyers for every opening call buyer on the ISEE Indices and ETFs, a rare market surge event indeed.

    Yes, GL’s ZH Hyperinflation piece got over 800 comments, and isn’t that just the way of the world?

    Broad, easy and wide the boulevard to destruction.

    Maybe we will just muddle through, as Cam, Catherine Austin Fitts (formerly of Dillon Read and HUD) said today and Rick noted, with all the recent effort to get nowhere terribly down or up fast.

    http://solari.com/about-us/catherine/

    Time Will Always Tell.

    I see dead people and assets walking, with Gold down to 1050, SPX down to 1010, and unproductive Bonds and the Dollar up to 172 and 115, for starters.

    http://stockcharts.com/charts/gallery.html?s=%24gold

    http://stockcharts.com/charts/gallery.html?s=spx

    http://stockcharts.com/charts/gallery.html?s=%24usb

    http://stockcharts.com/charts/gallery.html?s=%24usd

    Call me crazy, but I am nonetheless selling strength and weakness with Trailing Stops and cash in hand for what may be one of the greatest opportunities in 81 years to make and save money…

    Mahalo Regards All

  • ebear August 24, 2010, 9:05 pm

    The stock market is a circus sideshow. Its only purpose: to drive the fear trade in US treasuries, which continues apace as the economy crumbles a la Japan. China, already out of GSE’s, can now take full advantage to exit (quietly) stage left, converting their dollars to hard commodities and producers of same. This will continue until the UST market cracks, which could be years away.

    When that finally goes, China will take a hit along with everyone else – the price of vendor finance. Meanwhile, they have the technology, and succeed or fail, they have no choice than the path they’re on. 1.3 B people to feed and clothe says so.

    This is the trade I’m following. The US market is tired and needs a rest. Maybe I’ll come back in ten years when the bottom is finally in? Let’s see where China is by then.

    ebear

    PS: BHP on POT? Buy it before China does. Look around. Those trades have legs.

  • Steve August 24, 2010, 7:52 pm

    I read and read and read everything I could find today. All anyone is concerned about is the double dip, and catching the next bull. There are no perma-bears out there, except the radical few who have been made fun of.

    If it can go wrong, it will go wrong – the only point of fact is whether anyone lost money in Las Vegas. Balance exists in “Value”. In order to reach balance from imbalance an opposite imbalance must be reached. Is there balance in the markets ? – NO, and it may only be attained for a moment when it comes. Has imbalance been reached after 70 years of manipulation – no way. Balance – Dollar = 371 4/16ths grains of fine silver in a Coin. Imbalance, we have not even begun to swing the pendulum from radical F.D.R. abuse of power.

    I do not know when, nor; can anyone know when. At best one can determine the direction, determine the direction for 1 year, for 1 month, for 1 day, for an hour.

    Our direction is down because we exist in fraud. When that fraud changes the direction will be up.

  • jeff August 24, 2010, 7:51 pm

    The market is a foward looking indicator ? The market has already priced it in ? As GM goes the country goes ? As California goes the country goes ? All spin and mere perceptions given to the sheeple… Stock prices eventually reflect future pfofits… What wealth we had in our homes has vanished…Our economy is dependant upon housing and consumers….Bottom line, housing has just begun it’s decent, as well as our economy and therefore the market….How many bears or bulls abound, or what you see in the stars(technicals) will ultimately have nothing to do with it…

  • gary leibowitz August 24, 2010, 6:39 pm

    To detach emotional bias from pure analytical thinking is a rare combination.

    If you anticipate market manipulation or a conspiracy theory you should disregard these immediately, whether based on truth or not.

    If you “assume” the manipulation is a new phenomenon disregard that as a very low probability.

    If you base your bets strickly on accumulation of historic data points you will conclude we are ripe for a steep fall.

    Technically I anticipate a time frame for the recent low to be no later than September 1st. Based on prior slides there is only 2 scenarios that should occur.
    1 – a low is found on September 1, followed by an uptrend till around October 1st.
    2 – a low is found by this Wednesday and a 5 day rally till September 1st, followed by another protracted drop.

    I base this on prior fast action break downs from support levels.

    • gary leibowitz August 24, 2010, 6:40 pm

      I forgot to say that past data points should already reflect any reality that exits. that includes manipulations.

    • jj August 24, 2010, 9:09 pm

      Gary, you may want to read the #1 rated market timers opinion as he called it correctly ahead of the herd for 10 years running 97-07… M.Leibovit

      http://www.pinnacledigest.com/articles/vol.-128-interview-mark-leibovit

      Enjoy!….thinking outside the box, lol!

    • Keith August 24, 2010, 10:59 pm

      [As a stock market trader or investor, it is irrelevant whether the economy ultimately improves or not. Leibovit.] I agree with that statement.

  • Keith August 24, 2010, 4:50 pm

    Actually, I didn’t mind the picture of the hanging bears. It depicts what Mr. Market plans to do the to bears. Can you find a picture of a bull hanging on a noose?

    Us bulls took a hard hit in 08-09 but the bears have had their share of pain too. Sideways or up is what I expect to happen as I’ve said it many times but, I must say Rick, this blog took me a little by surprise. Just the other day you said, “bearing bearing when everyone else is a bear is the new contrairian”. Not quite sure what you meant by that. I have little fear at the moment of a major meltdown agreeing with Chuck Cohen that markets never crash when everyone is a bear. Look at all market crashes and you’ll see they come after a bubble top when the last person puts their money in but, that isn’t enlightening to you I’m sure. You know more than most.

    Point is, one of the few times we saw a major collapse was in the early 30’s and that was under a gold standard which, makes it a completely different situation than what we have today.

    Deflation? Yeah of coarse we are in deflation. The amount of money and “easing” that has taking place should have put prices 5 times what they are today. But, deflation will appear to be inflation… only at an anemic rate of return. Good luck you all you bears. I think you’ll be crying in you’re milk long term. Cheers.

    • Keith August 24, 2010, 4:53 pm

      “being a bear” that is

    • redwilldanaher August 24, 2010, 5:49 pm

      Keith,

      I may have missed a day or two in the forum but I still remain unclear as to what you believe will be the primary drivers of US equity market appreciation that will in the near future result in new all-time highs which would seemingly suggest a bull market expansion leg that would carry indices significantly beyond those highs. Very curious. Look forward to your response.

    • Steve August 24, 2010, 7:38 pm

      One should read the congressional record of 1929. The concern was that the People had too much money, and were not using that money the way the government wanted it used. ie; F.D.R. could not progress without a means of taking the wealth that people could keep to themselves, ie; the government could not compel loans upon the people by fiat because people could put gold in a can, ie; F.D.R. overthrew the supreme Court who said “We shall hold the constitution in Trust until such time as the people tire of this experiment in democracy.” Anyone tired yet ?

    • Keith August 24, 2010, 8:36 pm

      redwilldanahar- I suggest currency devaluation will be the primary driver in future equity appreciation. The current goal of the “powers that be” is to devalue all currency in order to ease the debt load. Whether or not this can be accomplished is yet to be seen.

  • Dennis August 24, 2010, 3:35 pm

    Thanks to all…..One of the deepest, best analysed reads I’ve had in a long time. Still have no idea where we’ll end up but convinced most of us will likely have less than we have at the present!

  • Phil August 24, 2010, 2:23 pm

    Hi Rick
    I thought you might like this article

    http://gonzalolira.blogspot.com/2010/08/how-hyperinflation-will-happen.html


    But hyperinflation is not an extension or amplification of inflation. Inflation and hyperinflation are two very distinct animals. They look the same—because in both cases, the currency loses its purchasing power—but they are not the same.

    Inflation is when the economy overheats: It’s when an economy’s consumables (labor and commodities) are so in-demand because of economic growth, coupled with an expansionist credit environment, that the consumables rise in price. This forces all goods and services to rise in price as well, so that producers can keep up with costs. It is essentially a demand-driven phenomena.

    Hyperinflation is the loss of faith in the currency. Prices rise in a hyperinflationary environment just like in an inflationary environment, but they rise not because people want more money for their labor or for commodities, but because people are trying to get out of the currency. It’s not that they want more money—they want less of the currency: So they will pay anything for a good which is not the currency.

    • jj August 24, 2010, 3:33 pm

      BINGO!! Phil, well said!
      “Hyperinflation is the loss of faith in the currency. Prices rise in a hyperinflationary environment just like in an inflationary environment, but they rise not because people want more money for their labor or for commodities, but because people are trying to get out of the currency. It’s not that they want more money—they want less of the currency: So they will pay anything for a good which is not the currency.”
      You nailed it, loss of faith in currency causes HyperINflation and that in the global FX markets can happen in the wink of an eye, and when it does turning back a Tsunami size trend, well………..its a tadd difficult as the US$ becomes a game of hot potato

  • will August 24, 2010, 2:17 pm

    Here’s another old cliche you don’t want to be reminded of then, but try repeating with me, just in case:
    Moment of Recognition! Moment of Recognition!

  • Nitram August 24, 2010, 1:49 pm

    May I suggest if one really wants to fell comfortable, to buy a full bag of junk silver pre1964 US silver coins. Weighs about 70 pounds. About the size of a five gallon paint bucket. The only problem is as one ages the bucket becomes more difficult to run with down the street. My I remind everyone the Japan stock market reached a new 52 week low last evening. Me thinks spx500 reaches 870 then the bounce.

  • Cameroni August 24, 2010, 7:49 am

    Thanks Mario.

    Good comments too. I have been watching the dollar lately. I don’t see the big market blow-off that everyone else is predicting. Not yet anyway. While the big head and shoulders patterns do seem to provide a convincing glimpse into the future the question that keeps coming to mind always revolves around timing. That is the wild card. What the dollar does is paramount to that timing.

    I think it is important to trust our own instincts at this point in time. Technicals may be providing the over riding pattern and suggesting an eventual and final outcome for the markets but I remain convinced that in the near term they (the technicals) are just easy prey to manipulation.

    My essential point here today is that every one of us needs to play this market based on our own knowledge and experience. No bitching, no complaining and no crying if it does not pan out the way others foretold. We are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day. Nor can we depend blindly on charts or graphs based on the past nor on advice from those who are wholly confined by analysis that is in essence backward looking.

    There certainly are a few today who offer real guidance though and I pay close attention to what they are saying. I follow politics and policy more that charts myself and it has worked out all right. So far.

    There are no guarantees though. I commit my decisions based on my own analysis. Everyone else’s opinion comes second.

    Then I live with it. For better or worse. Like a marriage.

  • C.C. August 24, 2010, 7:35 am

    Anyone here ever taken out a tube of freshly minted gold Eagles, and held them in your hand – feel the weight, admire the color and soak in the sound that only coins like that can make?

    Perhaps it’s an over-simplified dramatization of the confidence inspiring feeling one receives when doing so, but I would encourage anyone with the means to try it sometime.

    Men and their machinations, financial chicanery, corruption and unease about the future seem to dissipate away – quite rapidly in fact, when one holds something of timeless value and history, like a few gold coins.

    Try it sometime and see if it brings some peace and perspective to the chaos at hand –

    -CC

    • A.U. August 24, 2010, 8:00 am

      Myself, i prefer the soft texture of a couple greenbacks. If things get really tough, at least i know i can still wipe my butt with them…your minted eagles on the other hand, not so much.

    • Rick August 24, 2010, 11:15 am

      Absolutely agree. Gold coins are beautiful to behold and should be sensually appreciated rather than locked away. It’s so hard to believe there was a time in America when ordinary people paid for ordinary things with a coin so magnificent as the St. Gaudens.

    • Benjamin August 24, 2010, 12:38 pm

      I don’t keep much gold with me (no coins, just “junk” jewelry), but I do keep some silver rounds, coins, and smaller bars. Been a while since I held them and heard them, so I went and did that and…

      I’ll tell ya, even the 40% Kennedys look and sound a whole world better than the all base coins. Just gently spilling them from the tube, they still make that clink sound that just takes you somewhere else, like it travels through time, from everywhere that that silver’s been…

      When O when will we come back to our senses?

      And when O when will A.U. find theirs? I mean, really, Franklin toilet paper TOMORROW?! You can save yourself a heck of a lot more in using Charmin for wiping and those Benny’s for some clink clink TO-DAY! 🙂

  • Paul Sandhu August 24, 2010, 7:33 am

    Rick:
    You are one of the few ‘financial gurus’ that I read regularly over at Gold Seek. I think I finally figured out the reason for the market not to have continued collapsing in 2009. The game is to draw all remaining players in, whoever had some liquidity left into the casino. The Middle Class has to destroyed, and as of 2009, there were still too many people who had some real assets left, whether cash or other liquid assets, even Real Estate. Until the majority of the population has been indebted, by all means possible, the game will continue. There may yet be one or two more rallies to give the illusion of Return to Mayberry but in the end the whole system will go down in flames, and be blamed upon the Middle Class and the Poor not the real culprits, Wall Street, London and other centers of world finance. Yes Virginia, there is a conspiracy, and for many it will only become evident when they have nothing left to lose – literally! It will all have been taken away. What’s happening in Greece will be repeated worldwide and wealthier the nation, more of a shock ‘Austerity’ will bring to its citizenry. Eventually the citizenry will rise up, only to be mowed down like the freedom seeking Chinese in Tienanmen Square. The script was written long ago, the movie has been filmed and is now playing in a theater near you. The end may not be obvious to the majority of viewers but it certainly is to those who have eyes to see.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtd_YKnrePM

    I think you hit the nail on the head that there are too many talking heads calling for a crash, even Tony Robbins, seems too much like an orchestrated agenda move. I would look for the stock market to go up and for gold to possibly decline, at least in the short run.

    • mario cavolo August 24, 2010, 12:14 pm

      yea saw the Tony video 🙂 …he’s big on away from pain this time around but never forgetting the good things we all want, which while Tony gets credit where credit is due for being very talented and dynamic and successful, Tony sells his services including financial seminars and that video is certainly not an isolated gift to the universe event. …its a reference tool for marketing too of course, just part of an overall marketing strategy…like, when you get the call from the Robbin’s rep who says “we all know (who?) that Tony doesn’t normally offer these kinds of personal messages, did you see the video that…blah, blah, and that’s what makes it easy to realize that (oh yes easy) , and so we find ourselves (yes we do!) sharing Tony’s genuine concerns and getting together with (lots of belonging and worrying together) a group of like-minded people can be helpful (yes it can it can!) and and and there is a discount …oh sorry, psychological script nausea kicking in, as much as I love the stuff….Cheers, Mario

  • mario cavolo August 24, 2010, 6:10 am

    Thanks very much for laying out a nice article.

    How anyone can think we’re in a moment which resembles a moment containing the prerequisite market sentiment and technical factors which precede a crash is beyond me. We have no blowoff top, we have no giddy wooohaa, we have no extreme bullishness, we have loads of cash on the sidelines, we have fear, THE WALL OF WORRY is as much there right now as it has ever been. I could go on…the pieces of the puzzle are just not there plus the rules of the system are not the same.

    While yes, news announcement of a crushing black swan event which may then lead to cascading damages in the economic framework of the world could occur and equities will certainly be part of that along with everything else in the system. But to trade and invest anticipating that possible event is absurd. Until then, as is known and done with the guidance and advisory of sites like this one, intelligent swing and day trading is possible though tough.

    Support in the 9500 range should hold nicely says more bullish and inflationist Wayalat and once again, remember that the markets barely moved stuck in the 10-11,000 from ’04 to ’06. We could repeat that in almost the same range now until some big event happens. Nothing says the markets have to move beyond a trading range for longer than anyone thinks and in a low interest rate environment that will persist, that is exactly what they may do.

    It is of limited help to compare the coincidence of historical charts and circumstances because the circumstances have shifted dramatically, and even beyond most of our ability to comprehend. The numbers in TRILLIONS? Most can’t relate to 100 million or 5 billion or 300 billion, let alone trillions. Instant Global Interconnectedness? Its beyond grasp. Joshua Ramos visits the matter nicely in his book The Age of The Unthinkable, where all the old rules simply don’t work or apply any more. Nothing responds as expected any more, economically or politically with the new instant interconnectedness of both systems and knowledge (meaning media news too where CNN is faster than the CIA on intelligence gathering) on a broad global scale.

    As mentioned, we now have zillions of “I’m finally as smart as the Wall Street guys” shorting the market. But as soon as the game is discovered, that rule no longer applies! The big guys routinely run the stops…good grief…My friend used the phrase “a guppy in a shark’s tank” referring to men dealing with women, but it applies even better here.

    It was a Todd Harrison article where I read that 70% of volume is now the HFT machines.

    It is 2010. The sci-fi cyborg economic future has already arrived. The Wall Street stock market should now be more regarded as a privately run organization managed by a not-officially-recognized yet very real body of gov’t, institutional and bank elitists; a market trading system which also still allows public participants to join in at their ignorant peril or success if properly armed.

    Cheers all, Mario

    • ricecake August 25, 2010, 5:52 am

      The Chinese stock market is much worse. All in insider trading money trappings. Small investors >70% are losing money. In the US at least you have SEC. In China they don’t have anything to protect the small investors.

  • Benjamin August 24, 2010, 5:21 am

    i.e. No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition… uh, I mean the Plunge Protection Team!

    Not that I’ve any doubt as to their existence, or feel that the PPT won’t act. Or rather, hasn’t already acted; take a look at those Treasury yeilds. If I didn’t know any better, I’d say they barred the main exit, ahead of time.

    And now that I think about it, maybe that’s how they’ve always operated. “Oh, don’t mind our buying! Just go back into stocks, where you can make lots and lots of money! We gottcha covered!”

    And that works, so long as the majority believes it. But, um, wouldn’t a lot of bears be indicative that even the PPT is about to be overwhelmed?

  • Edward August 24, 2010, 3:39 am

    This piece is one in a long list of commentaries that are in abundance all over the net that amount to nothing more or less than attempts to “out think” the rest of the market’s participants. Unfortunately while the author’s opinion on the market’s path may turn out to be correct, this piece is based on nothing but a collection of questionable premises and straw man arguments.

    Here is one dubious premise:

    “Moreover, there are just too many bears anticipating a crash, and too many taking short positions simultaneously.”

    Perhaps, but where is your evidence? My own view, is that there are far fewer bears around in the process of loading the boat with shorts then there are former investors who are now simply permanently absent. Suffice it to say that it would appears that the facts support the idea that the market is profoundly and perilously illiquid.

    I hasten to add that crashes-which invariably come from deeply oversold levels- are the result of too many bears, i.e. sellers, swamping buyers. All this by way of saying that we must be wary of the distinct possibility of the occurrence of the self fulfilling prophecy whereby relentless bearishness in conjunction with a vastly illiquid market does in fact engender a cascade of selling of the type recognizable as a true blue crash. Assertions (or are they insinuations) made by the author regarding the pervasiveness of manipulation aside, assertions I am sympathetic to, there is nothing to say that our closed and corrupt market system can not be sundered at any time. The flash crash should have been an excellent warning that it can, indeed, get very disorderly in a alarmingly short period of time.

    Please pardon me for not providing sooner what I believe is an example of a rather glaring red herring put forward by the author:

    “Armageddon that will not materialize in the way you imagine – i.e., with a drum roll, thunder, lightning and a deafening crash as stocks fall (to(zero?). It’s not going to happen.”

    Perhaps not, but I think many of us have imaginations that allow us to conceive of TEOTWAWKI in other ways that, while perhaps less dramatic, will be just as earth shaking in their effects. First of all we don’t have to go anywhere near zero for things to take on the patina of doom. I would suggest that taking out last March’s lows by a mere five to ten percentage points might do the trick, but that is one of a number of desperate scenarios I can imagine without undue strain. In the meantime, good luck trading.

  • Martin Snell August 24, 2010, 2:45 am

    Some of us are restricted to playing the market during New York hours only (retirement accounts limitations etc). Since half of the market moves (at least) come during the futures sessions, for people like me this is a mugs game. You have to guess at the end of each day whether the market will open higher or lower by 1% (and on many stocks by far more than that) then put up with tedium from 11 til 4. So much for stop loss orders.

  • Cameroni August 24, 2010, 2:32 am

    Thank you SDavid, I am encouraged to know that there are others who share my suspicions. I can confirm that I have already lost a few dollars in anticipation of the “big one”. It may well come but it also may be at a dear cost to many.

    Has anyone else found themselves convinced, distracted by and then finally disappointed with the following words……

    “Cataclysmic Wave “C” down has begun”

    I have gotten to really hate that sentence.

  • SDavid August 24, 2010, 1:39 am

    Well said, Cam. Every bit of it. We are cannon fodder for the powers that be, especially on the US side of things. We watch, day-after-day, stocks that do nothing more than masquerade as ETF’s. The markets go up, these stocks go up; the markets go down, these stocks go down.

    Legitimate markets?

    Since when?

    It is still up to all of us to deal with it, isn’t it?

    With all due respect to Rick and Prechter and whoever else tries to convince me we are heading for “The Big One,” my reply is, “Sure, but WHEN?”

    What should be easy money isn’t all that easy, is it?

    Forget your bearish wedges, your head and shoulders patterns, your trend line breakdowns, bear flag fakeouts and “death cross” moving averages.

    They DON’T work and the bots seem to be using them against us. Not to mention we should have – technically speaking – crushed the S&P 500 on Friday or at the very least, today.

    We are all looking at (and seeing) the SAME thing. The markets SHOULD drop.

    And maybe they will.

    And maybe they won’t.

    Technically, though, “maybe” shouldn’t be in our vocabularies.

    And what we are seeing today could very well be the result of far too many people studying far too much technical analysis and having that same technical analysis used against us.

    • Steve August 24, 2010, 4:27 pm

      Apparently someone missed that last Prechert advise on wave three of A that ended a little over a year ago. As I remember the return was 40 to 1, or greater based upon one’s appetite for fear. Me, I just sat on my hands and watched it happen – but happen it did. As to WHEN, market manipulation you mention draws out the when, and then makes the ouch much worse.

  • PhotoRadarScam August 24, 2010, 1:37 am

    The answer is likely to come soon. The USD (DX) has just completed a 38.2% fib retracement of its fall from June 9. If I’m doing this right, there’s also a peak on the daily chart at 83.64 that would have to be exceeded (it’s close now) to indicate further upside to the USD. USD going up will kill stocks, while a resumption of the downward trend would boost them. I believe the target would be 74.695.

  • Other Paul August 24, 2010, 1:22 am

    Rick,
    OK, we get it, the bears may get slaughtered. The photo is way too graphic.

    &&&&&

    Took another look and found that I agreed with you. RA