[Gold and silver have been hit hard this week, so it is probably a good time to remind ourselves that the factors that have been driving bullion prices higher for the last decade are still very much in place β are indeed more powerful than ever.Β In the following interview, Greg Weldon of Weldon Financial explains why this is so. We are grateful to our friends Michael Campbell and Robert Zurrer at MoneyTalks for sharing the interview with Rick’s Picks’Β readers. RA]
Michael Campbell: What are the implications of solving a huge debt problem by taking on more debt?
Greg Weldon: Itβs more than Ireland or Greece when you think that 25 out of 27 EU nations are in violation of rules on either debts or deficits relative to their GDPs. Weβve been saying for a long time that for Europe to bail out Europe is ridiculous. To think that the U.S. is going to commit a trillion dollars to any foreign bailouts is even more ludicrous. Really, the spark in the stock markets around the world was that comment from an unnamed U.S. official that the United States promised to buoy up the International Monetary Fund with another trillion dollars.
The European Central Bank has been in a program to buy debt, but they sterilized that money they put in the system by withdrawing it at the back end. So they are not even really playing ball to begin with to the degree that the Fed has in the U.S. Having said that, the European Central Bank is expanding their balance sheet again. The Bank of Japan balance sheet just hit a new interim high. The U.S. bought a lot of bonds and
unfortunately theyβve had mortgage roll-ups, so they havenβt yet net expanded their balance sheet to new heights, but theyβre in the process of doing it. So when you have the three major central banks in the world expanding their balance sheets, that does provide some underpinning in terms of liquidity. To think that thatβs a solution to these long term problems is absolutely ludicrous.
Michael: In your view then Greg, itβs not a matter of if we have a day of reckoning, itβs just when?
Greg: There is no way out. This is the cycle that youβre caught in, and you can never underestimate the ability of monetary officials around the world to get creative. This is a bubble that goes back to the U.S. removing the dollar from the gold standard. What weβve entered into is an absolute day of reckoning. But itβs not here yet because weβre going to keep going through these vacillations where they pump it up and dump until they canβt do it anymore. The second you pull the rag out from under the market in terms of support either fiscally or monetarily, itβs a nightmare waiting to happen.
βPump It Upβ
So they have boxed themselves into a corner where βpump it upβ is the only way out, yet inevitably it is doomed to fail. Timing that failure is what is just so difficult and it becomes increasingly difficult as these vacillations become more and more extreme. You might liken it to an EKG where you have a nice little pattern of up and down, up and down, up and down then in the β97, β98 crisis that pattern became a little more wild, in 2000, 2001 more wild, and 2007, we were into the heart-attack stage.
Michael: In the Gold Trading Boot Camp you wrote in 2006 you chronicled the kind of situation financially that weβre finding ourselves in right now. You wrote about taking advantage of gold as a protection against these kind of events. Where do you think gold is right now?
Greg: Gold still has significant upside. We actually became a little bit more cautious on precious metals about six weeks ago, when it looked like global interest rates had started to rise. But as we mentioned before, the Bank of Japanβs balance sheet is expanding again, the ECB expanding its balance sheet and the Fed doing the same. As soon as these mortgage roll-offs get out of the way, the Fedβs balance sheet should explode. So this certainly is positive for Gold.
Not a Dollar Move
More importantly in the bigger picture, when you take a look at gold prices in every currency in the world, itβs not a dollar move. Gold is gaining against every single currency in the world. The flip side is that every currency in the world is depreciating relative to gold because central banks are debasing money everywhere. Thatβs the bottom line when talking about gold. Thatβs what people tend to miss, tend to overlook, is what is really at the core of this. Itβs kind of veiled, itβs kind of hidden, and no matter which way it goes, whether it is a successful hyper-reflation or whether it is a downturn to debt deflation, either scenario incorporates a lower standard of living. For example, [suppose] you bought a million dollars of Treasury bonds five years ago, versus buying gold at $450. While you got your money back because the bond was a βsafe,β guaranteed investment, the million dollars you got back buys one-third the amount of gold it could have bought five years ago. That in a nutshell is the debasement of the currency at work. It is the lower standard of living at work. Weβve lived on this credit bubble for so long that the downturn is going to be very difficult to fight because weβve become reliant on expanding credit. Itβs not the right thing to do, itβs just because weβve become so reliant on it now.
Gold is so attractive in the long term because this is a trend that is intensifying. Itβs a trend thatβs broadening, and the tentacles are reaching throughout the world in places that it has not reached before. Youβre not protected in currencies, so for me on the longer term picture in gold still looks attractive even at these prices.
Silver Outperformingβ¦
Michael: Is silver outperforming gold?
Greg: Silver is absolutely outperforming gold. It has been a big performer and an upside leader for quite some time in the near term. I have a love for silver, as when I first started the business it was in the silver pit in New Yorkβ¦[during] the heyday of $50 silver. Talking about the bigger picture, silver has a great appeal in that itβs a lower-denomination metal — you can hold smaller quantities, exchange it for less [valuable items relative to gold] in a worst-case scenario down the road. From that perspective, I still like silver. It continues to outperform gold, and I expect that to be sustained.
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As was stated earlier, everything is relative to something else. So I am completely sanguine in my PM holdings, as I see ‘value’ of currencies falling while PM maintains ‘value’. I may not get ‘rich’, but I wont be poor.
And I maintain that a handful of gold may just save your life.