Bullion’s Plunge More Painful with Dow on the Rise

So accustomed have we become to seeing bullion’s worst days matched lurch-for-lurch by the stock market’s that yesterday’s chastening of gold and silver bulls, if no one else, came as a rude surprise. Up until now, the exhilarating pleasure of watching the stock market get the crap kicked out of it whenever gold and silver were falling was our consolation prize.  Yesterday, however, with gold down nearly $50 at one point and trading $42 lower at settlement, the Dow thumbed its nose at bullion bulls by rising a token 20 points. Ouch! If the Industrial Average instead of rising had fallen as hard as gold percentage-wise, it would have been down by 345 points. And what a lovely day that would have been!  It is so rarely any more that we experience anything resembling a breath of sanity on Wall Street that the spectacle of stocks paying heed, however fleetingly, to America’s darkening economic prospects comes (when it does come) like a bracing blast of fresh air — akin to being pronounced fit as a fiddle by one’s shrink. Alas, with yesterday’s schizophrenic tallies to ponder, we can only infer that our view of the financial world, particularly of a U.S. economy sinking deeper and deeper into Depression, remains outside the flow of popular opinion.

Yesterday's plunge in gold, nasty though it may have seemed, didn't exceed even a single low on the daily chart

So what of the pasting that bullion took yesterday?  We wouldn’t worry too much about it, at least not yet.  Although Comex February Gold fell $50 to an intraday low of $1375, it would need to drop by a further $58, to $1317, over the next day or two to do any real technical damage to the daily chart (see above). As it happens, the selloff did not breach even a single prior low; we require no fewer than two such breaches to signal the onset of a trend that is likely to continue. That would imply a fall, by no later than Thursday’s close, beneath the 1352 low labeled in the chart.  And even if that should happen, our gut instinct would be to back up the truck and buy ‘em if the futures were to rally and commence a second leg down. This scenario is sketched out hypothetically in the chart, and although we are obliged, as always, to remain open to the possibility that something far worse than a minor correction is developing, at this point that is all we see. Technical factors aside, we should ask ourselves whether anything has changed to deflect the forces that have been driving gold and silver relentlessly higher for the last ten years.  In fact, the most reckless monetary blowout in the history of civilization is continuing unabated as we write these words. As such, we commend bullion’s inexhaustibly deep-pocketed buyers – China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, India, Brazil et al. – for the patience, diligence and wisdom they have shown in stepping back for a while to allow gold and silver prices to return briefly to relative bargain levels.

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  • mikeck January 6, 2011, 2:12 am

    Well, after spending about an hour trying to figure out why I could not download the proper version of itunes, I think I found the show Roger was pointing us to. Very interesting indeed…it kinda matches my previous posts where I stated that the federal government will never default as long as their contracts are stated in dollars that they can create at will. Bankruptcy may be a different issue if the rest of the world decides they no longer want to work so we can have an easy life, i.e. they stop accepting dollars.

    When you get to the link Roger provided, http://www.blogtalkradio.com/newcaptainsofindustry you can just scroll down to, “Economist Round Table. Economics 101 for Politicians and Policy Makers,” for the download. I have to listen again as I was distracted during the first part, but I think they glossed over the inflation implications.

  • warren January 5, 2011, 7:59 pm

    This is a, must not miss “ratio” show. Bye now

    • Benjamin January 5, 2011, 8:42 pm

      Ratio show? Wait! Before you go, Warren, what do you mean by that?

  • roger erickson January 5, 2011, 3:13 pm

    A lot of uncertainty. This is a must-not-miss radio show:
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/newcaptainsofindustry

  • Benjamin January 5, 2011, 2:33 pm

    Prices in gold and silver are wonderful and all, but for a long while now, I’ve much prefered the good ‘ol fashioned ratio…

    Okay, so at ~47, it’s not exactly THE old ratio, but you know what I mean. However, I’m not trading at this point, strong as the temptation is. The way I figure it, at least “some” portion of that ratio is just paper. If I were to trade in lots of silver at this point for much more gold than I could’ve gotten six months ago, isn’t that just covering the ass of the manipulators? Wouldn’t it be better to wait for the ratio to return to a high point, and trade gold for silver, rather than too much silver for gold?

    For now, that’s what I’m pondering. Since the ratio was ~85 at the last peak (5.5 times higher than the historic 15) roughly 2/5th the paper “silver” has disappeared with the ratio recently just barely missing 45. I suspect that in the coming months, the ratio will be rising, so the paper silver will back in. But how much?

    Now, the question one has to ask themselves is that if it’s better to trade 47 ounces of silver now or wait until the ratio is at least, say, 1:60 later. 2 x 47 = 94… possible, but highly unlikely, what with the QE blowout. Who wants to hold that much paper? But 60 / 2 = 30… not exactly around the corner, but again who wants to hold paper, given how things are? More likely, the negotiation between the two metals will have to come closer to what reality will bear.

    The waiting is the hardest part. And the mind, always juggling possibilities, wanting to decide something else…

  • kkken530 January 5, 2011, 9:46 am

    I think you need to check out L Randal Wray’s post on “Functional Finance”
    http://www.epicoalition.org/docs/functional_finance.htm

    • warren January 5, 2011, 7:57 pm

      Have you read G. Edward Griffin or Adam Fergusson?

  • SDavid January 5, 2011, 7:27 am

    If, as they say, 90 percent of the wealth is controlled by 10% of the the population (and these days it might actually be closer to 95 to 5) why would any of the uber wealthy care about us?

    They don’t, and why would they?

    • Benjamin January 5, 2011, 2:39 pm

      No, they don’t care about anyone, individually, or even in large numbers. But if they have one shred of sanity at all, they surely must realize that pissing on everyone won’t keep them comfortably rich long enough to see them to the grave, where they no longer need to worry about anything.

      Oddly enough, I’d much prefer the outright madman. At least it would be obvious, and therefore, they wouldn’t last long. But these careful players with a grip on reality; they can do the most damage with the least (timely) notice…

  • Edward0 January 5, 2011, 5:53 am
  • Martin Snell January 5, 2011, 5:05 am

    Pretty obvious takedown of gold today right at the Crimex open at 8:20. One report had $1 billion traded (dumped) in the first 8 minutes (March contract). With that kind of volume there was no “logic” behind the move, only that “someone” wanted it lower. I will be interested to watch the overall market tomorrow as often times gold weakness seems to precede general market weakness by a day or so.

    • mario cavolo January 5, 2011, 7:16 am

      HNY Martin…that someone could be any big player all over the globe, yes?…I mean it could be someone over here in China like B of C or some other big hedge funds who “had a chat” recently….etc….just driving it down to shake it out…Cheers, Mario

  • Robert January 5, 2011, 4:47 am

    {yawn}

    Primary trend reversals are never this obvious.

    Every forward contract sold short today will have to be bought back. Even if gold corrected all the way back to 1299, every Bear lucky enough to short from the 1422 top would make a mind-numbing 9% if they have the cahones to stay short until 1299 is reached (not bloody likely).

    I’ve seen these sudden, steep pullbacks too many times since 2006 to believe that this one is any different than the others. The “Dubai correction” in Nov 09 was more unsettling to me than today was.

    I’ll give the bears their 9%… And I’ll be buying as soon as the RSI dips below 50 on the daily chart, regardless of the price.

    • Robert January 5, 2011, 11:49 pm

      (Stated in his best impression of Heath Ledger’s Joker character from Batman):

      I’m a man of my wooord…. HAHAHAHA.

      Bought 50 shares of UGL today at the close.

      I have cash to buy 50 more if the RSI drives below 30 .(or if the RSI of AGQ gets below 50 on the daily then I will buy that one instead)

  • John Jay January 5, 2011, 4:18 am

    Re: gold and Silver sell off.
    Maybe some player at GS bought an ocean going yacht with helicopter.
    Or perhaps a guy in Dubai had to catch up on some skyscraper payments.
    The trend is still up.

  • kkken530 January 5, 2011, 2:59 am

    Remember what goes up must come down

    • warren January 5, 2011, 7:51 pm

      I just looked at a chart 12:49 New York time and right now it seems to be up.

  • myanmarexpert January 5, 2011, 2:37 am

    I hold my physical bullion for the long haul, but i did sell my PM trade positions yesterday, as my wave count indicated that we were close to completing 5 waves up. If correct I see a multi-week correction before the upward march continues to significant new highs. Seems to me that sentiment is a bit too high at the moment so something to shake out the weak hands is probably due. We shall see.

  • Keith January 5, 2011, 2:31 am

    Ah yes, you hit the nail in the head with so many points. Nothing has changed and we are still in a quagmire of filth. Bullion going lower? I actually think so but I know how the story ends… that is, a worthless dollar and bondholders holding an empty bag. Let them have their day and the jolly that they feel at the moment! I feel for them wholeheartedly and only wish that the good times they had will carry them through the anguish that awaits them. In the mean time, I sit back and wait, patiently as I’ve done for almost 15 years to have my cake and eat it too. Patience as they say is a virtue. What’s another day, week, month or year to me?? Nothing but a drop in a bucket. I’m in this for the end game. The game will end someday and I’m young enough to look forward to that day. Wealth for me, but at the same time the opportunity to help others in need. The poor man begging on the street I will help, but the foolish rich of today I will not.