Anatomy of a Blown Trade

We sometimes forget that trading can be more humbling, even, than golf.  Who could have imagined we’d predict the Dow’s intraday high within a point, only to blow the short trade we’d advised from that high?  That’s what happened, mainly because, when the trade started to go our way, we lowered the stop-loss by a hair to all but eliminate the theoretical possibility of even a small loss. Here’s the way it played out:  Anticipating a 100-point rally in the Dow on Monday, we put out the following recommendation to subscribers Sunday night, referencing the March E-Mini Dow contract: “The futures look bound most immediately for 12142, a Hidden Pivot shown in the chart.  The target looks not only like a high-odds bet as a minimum upside price objective, but also a good place to attempt shorting with a stop-loss as tight as 12151.”  The chart we used to project the high is shown below, and although for proprietary reasons we have not labeled all of the coordinates employed to predict the exact top, you can learn how to do this nifty little parlor trick yourself by taking the upcoming, six-hour Hidden Pivot webinar. For further information, including a detailed description of the Hidden Pivot Method, click here.

Getting back to yesterday’s price action, the Mini-Dow futures got off to the strong start we’d expected, and so we opened up an impromptu virtual meeting room for Rick’s Picks subscribers to give them precise advice in real time for getting short at the target. At the time, the Mini-Dow contract had traded as high as 12130, getting within 11 point of the target. They tiptoed still higher, to 12141 – a point beneath the target, and that’s where we “declared” ourselves short.  The entry was not merely hypothetical, however, since someone in the chat room admitted to having jumped ahead of our 12142 offer with one of his own at 12141.

Missed Coffee Break

From that point on, the trade should have been managed mechanically to keep risk and reward in a 1:3 relationship. This implies that we needed the trade to go in-the-black by at least 30 points before we took a partial profit or instituted a trailing stop for a single-contract position. That’s because we had risked 10 points on the initial stop-loss.  So far so good.  A coffee break at that point would have been just the thing, since we’d probably have parked an automated order to stop us out of the trade if the futures poked above the day’s so-far peak at 12141.  Instead, to save a few pennies and ensure we would lose no money on the trade, even after commissions, if the futures returned to the day’s highs, we brought the stop-loss down to 12141.  The predictable result was that the futures made one last head-fake to…12141; then they fell for the remainder of the session. They were still falling, albeit gently, in after-hours trading around 10 p.m. EST.

The lesson here is that, if nothing changes, you should stick with your original game plan rather than second-guess your mechanically-determined stops.  A good way to avoid having Mr. Market screw with your head, as he did ours, is to avoid studying his behavior too intently. Never look the bastard in the eye.

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  • nakedtraderclan February 9, 2011, 11:08 am

    i try to always remember
    “the market will remain illogical for longer than i can remain solvent ” and
    “better to be lucky than good”
    and just accept stopped out and move on whatever the luck . Whats gone is gone,the best traders i know and have known who now enjoy retirement on a private island or yacht were just relentless in their participation and discipline
    if trailing stops moved to ensure flat p/l participation , if the trade originator method is correct you will have many more winners than unfortunate stop outs

  • Rich February 8, 2011, 10:26 pm

    Good stuff all…

  • jwerms February 8, 2011, 7:51 pm

    bozzy, Just wondering, how do you “hide” your stops? thanks

    • bozzy February 8, 2011, 11:33 pm

      IB will allow you to do so…

    • bozzy February 8, 2011, 11:35 pm

      That was too cryptic – they maintain a stop server whic is not displayed to the market..

  • Don February 8, 2011, 2:25 pm

    bozzy, you are an astute, insightful trader and artful linguist as well. I like your comments. Greed is a bigger downfall than no discipline.
    Successful trading to all………

    • bozzy February 8, 2011, 3:05 pm

      Don – thanks and likewise.

  • bozzy February 8, 2011, 10:31 am

    Having watched the market take back money I had left on the table far too many times, sometimes with truly spectacular consequences, I use the HP trailing stops to take me out. Sometimes I modify to leave an entire position running, perhaps as I watch a spectacular surge towards and then through a pivot. These stops are that delightful luxury – profit taking stops.

    However, this piece is about a far more uncomfortable necessity – the entry stop. Too wide, and there will be no repeat performance if hit. Too tight, and there is almost a certainty that it will be hit – often marking a high or low price point for an embarrassingly long time. My own opinion is that placement and selection is more an art than science, and volatility is no respecter of profit targets and placement of mechanical stops, so pain may ensue.

    These days, I hide ALL my stops, to prevent the vultures from spotting their next meal, and where we are into reversal country as in this example, I resign myself to the price of re-entry. Obviously this reduces expected profitability on any one trade, but it also allows smaller tighter stops, which means I get in the market more often. Another question entirely is who can say whether this is more or less profitable?

    No, the failure here in this example was not the method, it was greed control. Is there any of us who does not regularly break his own discipline to finesse things a little? The mark of the truly professional is their ability to observe dispassionately at the outcomes, and to extract lasting value should they find it, whether critical of their failures, but sometimes, and all too rarely perhaps, a worthwhile insight for their future trades.

  • EP February 8, 2011, 7:52 am

    Dont agree with you Don, HP’s are accurate enough for tight stops, current volatility’s not high. The point is dont be scared to get stopped out. Only move your stop after you have taken partial profit, on your first contracts, move your stop for the remainder. I would rather be stopped out than play, would have, should have….

  • Don February 8, 2011, 7:06 am

    With all due respect you are placing your
    stops too tight for this market. From my view. My strategy is determined by how I’m playing the board, scalping, speculating, trading HP’s, investing, etc.

    • mario cavolo February 8, 2011, 8:36 am

      …Hey Don! ….thanks for your thoughts and easy to agree. A look at the corn and cotton charts reveals random, sharp jerks up and down that remind me I’m not running the show 🙂

  • mario cavolo February 8, 2011, 6:33 am

    Sort of like: I wisely shorted corn at 682 and it graciously began declining, as often, I placed a 250 pip trailing stop which started it at 684.50, even wider than usual…the bastard declined to 676, went back up stopped me out “just” at 679 and then continued a decline to 672 without me on board….sitting flat now at 674. This has happened to me in every vehicle way too many times and I am starting to use single stops and moving them up manually more often.

    Cheers, Mario