Take the Odds on Romney

Stocks looked somewhat subdued at week’s end, but this was to be expected, given the downbeat economic news.  Turns out the U.S. economy generated a paltry 96,000 new jobs in August while unemployment fell to 8.1% for the worst possible reason.  In fact, the number fell because so many who are jobless have given up looking for work. The fact that the Dow Industrials managed to hold onto Thursday’s 250-point gain despite this suggests that bull traders will be out in force Monday morning, attempting to leverage the brazen falsehoods that were trumpeted from the podium in Charlotte.

Obama has been able to tell sensational lies about the performance of the U.S. economy simply because a left-tilting press is doing its loyal and desperate best to get him re-elected.  Americans are not fooled, though, and that is why we expect the incumbent to get trounced in November, notwithstanding Gallup polls and other damned statistical lies to the contrary. We’ve tuned all of it

out and will take the odds. As far as we’re concerned, the polls are either flat-out wrong or misleading, and campaign coverage that would have us believe Romney and Obama are running neck-in-neck is delusional.  Romney is a weak candidate, to be sure, but he is running against a man who has not earned anyone’s trust, let alone four more years in office. Even liberals and progressives are saying that, by the way.  We were surprised to hear it last week from an old friend, a self-described Progressive who has never spoken a kind word about a Republican in the six decades we’ve known him.

America’s Shame

Ordinarily, we would rate it a plus for the markets that a president who views America’s past with shame, and whose obsessive political goal is to make us pay the Third World for our sins, is about to be turned out of office. In this case, however, there is no reason to believe that Romney will do any better at ameliorating the economic crisis that confronted Obama when he took office. And while it is profoundly comforting to know that the next Supreme Court appointments are unlikely to be hard-left ideologues like the ones Obama has chosen, we must still deal with an economy that is mortally sick, mired in a Great Recession from which there will be no easy escape. In fact, the only thing that can extricate us is a much deeper recession, one that would allow investable assets, mainly real estate, to fall to their true market values . Since no politician other than Ron Paul would have the guts to advocate such a solution, it remains inevitable that market equilibrium will be forced on us by an outright Depression.

In the meantime, our cynical expectation is for higher stock prices, at least over the near term. We’ve been using a 1470.00 rally target for the E-Mini S&Ps, which settled on Friday at 1438.25.  If our forecast is correct, it would imply a corresponding rally in the Dow Industrials of about 250 points.  What happens after that is more speculative, although an easy move through the target would suggest that DaBoyz are planning to go for broke by running stocks higher into November.  Of course, there is also a chance the S&Ps could hit our 1470.00 Hidden Pivot target and conk out, setting in motion the Mother of All Bear Markets that so many of us have expected for oh-so-long.

War a ‘Wild Card’

A wild card, one with consequences that everyone should shudder to imagine, is a pre-emptive strike by Israel on Iran. No one believes any longer that further talks with Iran, or economic sanctions, will persuade them to abandon their program to build a nuclear bomb.  The Israelis, for their part, must be taken at their word. Their leaders have flatly stated that the mullahs cannot be allowed to possess a nuclear weapon.  The markets have done absolutely nothing to discount the growing likelihood that Israel will act, even if without U.S. help, to stop Iran.  Obama presumably is applying as much behind-the-scenes pressure as possible to thwart Israel.  According to one report, he has even provided a back-door assurance to Iran that the U.S. would not jump into the fray if Iran did not attack U.S. assets.  Under the circumstances, the very prospect of Obama’s reelection seems likely to impel Israel to act sooner rather than later. A Romney victory, meanwhile, would only temporarily delay a military strike.

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  • ter September 14, 2012, 2:46 am

    We agree about Friedman and Soros.

  • ter September 13, 2012, 4:24 pm

    For your information, I’ve heard of J Street and Stratfor. I don’t read either. Who is Norman Finkelstein? What is the National Alliance? I don’t understand your reference to using a “human shield” in Lebanon. Long after the IDF withdrew from Lebanon in 2006, after UN peacekeepers were inserted, the corpses of the two Israeli soldiers were exchanged for a number of prisoners held without trial in Israel. The soldiers were killed during the skirmish which Israel asserted was the reason for their invasion. I’ve read this was known in Israel prior to the attack. When their bodies were exchanged, there wasn’t a hue and cry they’d been murdered in captivity. Thus, any IDF claim their actions were restrained by concern for the soldiers’ safety is without substance.

    Do you consider the editors of Haaretz self-hating Jews?

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    Compared to the real haters at J Street, to Finkelstein and Soros, no, the editors of Haaretz are not self-hating Jews; rather, they are merely egregiously misguided liberals (though not so misguided as miscreants like Friedman who write op-ed for The New York Times). RA

  • ter September 13, 2012, 2:28 am

    Even Israel admits it lost in Lebanon because the only thing it accomplished was ruthless, wanton destruction by bombing–when the IDF failed to reach its strategic objectives on the ground–of highways, power plants, and much of Beirut, in a fit of pique. That’s fact, not opinion. The armed forces chief of staff, an air force general, was forced out, and a reassessment of IDF tactics, strategy, and force structure was undertaken.
    Calling “anti-semite” makes my point that The Holocaust is the secular Jew’s equivalent of The Koran. Try reading Ha’ aretz occasionally if you’re interested in truth, rather than propaganda.

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    Why settle for Ha’aretz as your source of truth when you can get the full-throated variety at J Street, the National Alliance web site or from guys like Norman Finkelstein? Meanwhile, don’t think that Stratfor — your kind of reading, I can tell — has all the answers. But if you’re going to ignore the implications of Hezbollah’s having used a ‘human shield’ in Lebanon, as I’d pointed out, then we really aren’t having much of a dialogue, are we? RA

  • cosmo September 12, 2012, 5:03 am

    Totally bereft of alternatives here…
    You want something to change, then you have to vote for something besides the lesser of evils because they are both still evil..

    Gary Johnson 2012- Libertarian candidate, 2 term Governor of NM…real person with a life outside politics

  • Anthony F September 11, 2012, 11:05 pm

    http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article36436.html
    U.S. Stock Market Investors Set Up to be Fleeced, Triple Top?

  • Dave September 11, 2012, 10:24 pm

    That’s good, the higher the financial cliff goes the greater the fall, if you’re prepped for it.

  • bc September 11, 2012, 9:26 pm

    Don’t worry, the winner of the election will probably go “missing” anyway. Just like is happening in China.

  • ter September 11, 2012, 6:31 pm

    Rick, the correct translation of Ahmadinajad’s ill-considered remark is ” Israel will vanish from the pages of history”. Iran has neither the ability nor the will to wipe them off the map. Israel wants Iran’s military incapacitated so it can’t supply Hizbollah with the defensive weaponry preventing Israel from annexing Southern Lebanon to obtain its water. Hizbollah drove the IDF from Lebanon in the 1980’s, and defeated the IDF’s unprovoked invasion in 2006, which had been long planned, and for which the two “captive” (dead,actually, as Israel knew) soldiers were a pretext. That end may be accomplished now by removing Syria’s Assad, and transforming Syria into another bloody anarchy like Libya. Syria is understood to be the means through which Hizbollah receives its defensive armaments from Iran.
    Whatever one’s views on The Holocaust, punitive laws preventing historians from deviating from the sacrosanct narrative are in no way different from punishments meted out to “heretics” challenging the absolute authenticity and verity of the Koran, except in severity. Israel has justified its many aggressions by refrerring to The Holocaust, which is what I think A’s point was.

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    Where to begin?

    1. Ahmadinejad has made many remarks advocating Israel’s destruction, all of them carefully considered, including the specific phrase “wipe Israel off the map.” See Memri.org for voluminous, other examples.

    2. Hezbollah already has enough missiles to wreak havoc on Israel — which it will attempt to do the moment Israel moves against Iran.

    3. The IDF was not “defeated” in 2006; it fought to a draw because it did not want to destroy Beirut and kill large numbers of civilians who were used by Hezbollah as human shields.

    4. Your phrase “whatever one’s view on the Holocaust” tells me exactly what your views are.

  • gary leibowitz September 11, 2012, 3:30 pm

    Love how such glaring historical data is ignored or excused. Fact is that the past 2 depressions have occured over decades of wealth building by the few, destroying the middle-class, deregulation of corporations, mounting corruption, and political scape goading.

    So let me ask, how is it that at the very apex of our crisis we have th largest disparity ever between the rich and poor? Surely it can’t be because of all those social programs. You would think that the exact opposite were true based on all these give-aways to the middle-class and poor. Hmm. Social hand-outs even as the wealth build up is going on? Solution: Spend even less by the government, disband those silly regulations, allow the markets to police itself, give tax cust to the very wealthy and profitable corporations. Yea, now I got it!

    And the race for President is close? Someone slap me because I must be sleeping. Voting on some misty ideology choice when reality bites? We are living today in a world where the middle class has been squeezed, the rich more powerful, greed and corruption lauded, bigotry encouraged, and empathy shouted down.

    As for the election and the market. I expect both to take off very soon. The next rally will seal the fate of this election. Recent data shoped small business confidence rose and retail sales propped up. Not a signal that a crash is about to befall us. in fact these last 3 months o sideways action is the most telling. If the markets were to fall hard it would have done so already given the fact that the EU was fumbling along without a direction. Thy decided to follow our lead. Right or wrong they now have a diredction and the loosening of tight austerity measures.

    Curious to see how the latest Fed meeting goes. I still see no reason to announce another QE, but I suspect they will once again leave that option open for the future. The market reaction, if my assumptions above are correct, will be most telling.

    I believe the “sweet spot” for market investing is here.

  • Phil McKreviss September 11, 2012, 2:06 pm

    i can’t figure this one out…can someone please help … so why does Vegas (MONEY) assign King O a 68% chance of winning on Nov 6 , while the recent polls only give him a slight edge ?

    • gary leibowitz September 11, 2012, 5:55 pm

      Betting against Vegas is like winning the trifecta. It can be done but it aint likely. They “are” the book makers. If they set the odds as 50/50 they would lose their shirts. 2nd term, market near its all time high, no crisis, EU back in the fold, Republican candidate that has too much baggage, and citizens that don’t want to be reminded of class divide.

  • Anthony F September 11, 2012, 5:35 am
  • Chris T. September 11, 2012, 5:21 am

    You write:
    ” Obama put bin laden”
    Big lolling harumph!

    But it’s Ron Paul who believes in fairy tales?

    Thanks to Gary North, who recently measured Obama against Marx’s core tenets, it is indeed the case that Obummer is no Marxist, or no more so than most others in DC. You are correct on that point.

    “Ron Paul still believes the fairy tale that wall street can police itself. Laughable. ”

    When exactly did Ron Paul ever say that, or even implied it?
    You didn’t hear that from him, but it is definitely something that an Olberman or a Colbert, if not a Hannity might pretend was RP’s position.

    Fact is, that in the system Ron Paul stands for regulation is indeed not needed by the government, because the market would long before have cleared things up.
    And if not the market, then the local torch-and-pitchfork brigade would be there toshow the bankers their limits.
    (alas its pretty difficult to march an enraged mob from Smallville USA to The Hamptons, and even if they got there, the helicopter is waiting on the pad out back…)

    Ever notice how the rise and blood-suck of Wall Street just happens to correlate perfectly with decline of our real money, ever since 1913?

    This is the reason why Wall Street supports all those who become President, and why both parties’ prez. appointed people like Regan, Schulz, Carlucci, Rubin, Paulson, Geithner, etc.

    Even Volcker has to be seen in a more critical light than is usually bestowed upon him:
    He is a fiat money guy through and through, look at his role during Nixon’s term.
    He “saved” the dollar only so that he could save the fed.

  • steve September 11, 2012, 12:31 am

    I’m not much into politics. Obama put bin laden down and gave Paul Volcker at least a seat at the table for financial reform. He’s not nearly the so-called Marxist that he was labeled by the right when he took office. Ron Paul still believes the fairy tale that wall street can police itself. Laughable. Romney seems sort of moderate, but the Bush years are still too recent to vote republican again. Being the 10th anniversary of 9/11, there has been a lot of revisiting of the incompetence of government that allowed that attack to happen and the gross misjudgements and betrayals of public trust that followed. As they say, it’s still too soon.

  • ter September 10, 2012, 11:18 pm

    Borrowing a line from the British Navy, transmitted from literature to film: ” one must always choose the lesser of two weevils”.

  • Dave September 10, 2012, 11:17 pm

    Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital

    How the GOP presidential candidate and his private equity firm staged an epic wealth grab, destroyed jobs – and stuck others with the bill

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829

    • Andrew Gutterman September 11, 2012, 2:36 am

      Gotta find some way to get this article to go viral so the rest of the world can see how RomneyRyan is going to RailRoad us if they get elected.

      Thank you!

      Andy

  • Chris T. September 10, 2012, 11:16 pm

    On the nukes from the LA Times:
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/23/world/la-fg-iran-intel-20120224

    I am not aware of any non-warmongering smoking gun since February that has led our official intel. agencies to revise in the 6 months since. Rumors abound, but what does that mean in beltway terms?

    The Democrat Platform states:
    “….the Iranians have yet to build a nuclear weapon…”

    This is an issue where we can agree to disagree only I guess.

  • charles September 10, 2012, 10:14 pm

    “Can’t we all just get along?”
    Of course not!
    Count me out of this election. Chris T. said it for me. Ron Paul write in! That’s the best vote! Anything else is for the lesser of two evils and it’s hard to decide who that is. Economically it won’t matter.
    What matters most is who would be most apt to push the button? Be a Patriot and vote for neither of the above!

    • Chris T. September 10, 2012, 11:25 pm

      And don’t forget Buchanan’s recent summary of the Republican voter:
      fast disappearing.

      The Reagen coalition with the southern dems (from Nixon’s time) is no more.
      If indeed Romney does lose, agains this laughable weakling, what’s left for them?

      Hopefully nothing, and good riddance, may it be a swift and little-attended funeral.
      Anyone still hoping to go for the lesser evil:
      you are just shoring up a sick system.
      Time they learned that they can’t take all those they pee on for granted, and that those votes are gone.

      and if THAT is done not by staying away, but by Ron Paul write-ins, it will make this a clear message, hard to spin away.
      hide-away, they’ll sure try, but spin-away, not.

      So, any Ron Paul write in that HELPS to get Mitt back into the business world is not just not a wasted vote, it is the most constructive thing you can do.

  • ter September 10, 2012, 10:07 pm

    Martin S’s summary of the Romulan is hard to top. I’d add he’s the guy who couldn’t beat the guy (bellicose boob McCain) who couldn’t beat a black man. Rebus distinguishes himself from the Abominable Snowman by promising to attack Iran toute suite, WIN (how? ) in Afghanistan, and lower taxes for the wealthy. A very resistible package. Elders hate Obamacare, which Romney asserts he’ll repeal, but only to replace it with Ryan’s improved version. Conventions usually provide a 5-10% temporary goose to polling numbers. Romney got 2-3%, which faded to nothing after several days.
    Rick, everything I’ve read, not originating from Israeli shills, in and out of Israel, concludes Iran hasn’t a nuclear weapons program. New IAEA head is a US protege, who tendentiously summarized the latest IAEA report to suggest Iran must have such a program if it can’t prove to his absolute satisfaction it doesn’t. Since Israel has between 200-500 nuclear warheads, deliverable from land, sea, and air, and isn’t subject to IAEA inspection because not a nuclear non-proliferation treaty signatory, Netanyahu’s screechings are not credible. Until Bibi’s advent, Iran and Israel had a recent history of cooperation. Ahmadenijad leaves office in a matter of months, so his mistranslated remarks about Israel will become irrelevant.

    • Rick Ackerman September 10, 2012, 11:41 pm

      So all that talk about destroying the “tumour” of Israel, wiping the country off the map, and denying the Holocaust was just a misunderstanding, right? How silly of Israel to think Ahmadinejad would say such things! And how comforting it is to know that when he leaves office, the Israelis will have the opportunity to deal directly with their good friends, the mullahs.

  • gary leibowitz September 10, 2012, 9:48 pm

    If there is no crash, or major crisis before the elections, even a black man can win re-election. It will most likely be close, but givne the fact that the Republicans have chosen 2 candidates that went out of their way to dissuade others from voting for them, I see no other outcome possible.

    A billionaire who gained his wealth by closing companies and discharging hundreds of workers is not a platform I would feel comfortable with. His tax records, those that were revealed, shows his rate was under 15 percent. He already disowned his Romneycare in Mass.
    A platform that support tax breaks to the wealthy and corporation when they are to this day receiving the highest tax breaks and profits in history.

    Sorry, but the one on one debates regarding the Republican platform and the Dems will be hard pressed not to see class warfare. In fact I find it absurd that the Republicans can even place these subjects front and center today.

    The undertone of racism is their trump card hovever. To re-elect a black man when there is no immediate crisis and the alternative is not an old fool that can’t even bother to look up the background of his running mate is a true test of where we are today.

    Imagine a congressman in the chambers of congress yelling out “you are a liar” to the president of the US, to appease his southern base, when I can’t recall that ever happening with any other president. You got to keep that dumb, backwards, racist south fired up.

    • Chris T. September 10, 2012, 10:07 pm

      Gary:
      class warfare rhetoric is at least something we have come to expect of the Dems.

      But it started this time with the Republicans.
      From Ann Romney’s talk about her humble, hard-working, not-able-to-do-higher ed, yada, yada, father, to her no-school dad-in-law, to Chris Christy highlighting his poor Sicilian roots, and then Paul Ryan, you quickly got the meme of the RNC.
      Disgusting, as if somehow being of base origin (the baser the better) is important.
      It used to be that people were ashamed to mentione these things, now its the opposite.

      At that point one had to think:
      the POOR children of all these people, what humlbe parentage can they claim once they try for these spots?
      Whether Chelsea, Malia, Christy’s or Romney’s kids, all their moms and dads are wealthy and educated, gues the grannys will have to do.

      AND SURE ENOUGH:
      at the DNC, the Mayor of San Antonio enlightened us about his poor, house-cleaning, no-education GRANDMA.

      And then Michelle had to enlighten us about the man whose only posession was a dumpster coffee-table, had shoes WAY too small, and a rusty car with holes in it.
      Oh humble Barry-O. Too bad he’s seems to be ashamed of the upper middle class granny that raised him, to the tune of denying what she surely must have provided him.

      (expletives at all that deleted)

    • Chuck September 10, 2012, 10:41 pm

      The main goal of any POTUS is to the those 8 years on office – once they get in to begin with. Please vote for this man again….he will then have fooled you twice…..so shame on you haha. He wants to bring it all down….and it may be the necessary step for a complete reset. Those fried chicken eatin southern corn pones will not be feeding the north this time though. Starve em out I say.

  • Chris T. September 10, 2012, 7:58 pm

    While it doesn’t take that much astuteness anymore to see that TBTB do not permit anyone to make it to the party’s nominee spot who in any way can endager them, Gary North’s recent article putting this all into the CFR context is worth a read.

    Even though he also throws his lot with Intrade, it doesn’t matter, except for one thing:
    The war thing.

    For what it’s worth, Obama has kept that as a cold-war, not the hot one a McCain or now a Romney want to give us.
    That would be the silver lining on the otherwise gray Rombama/Oromney cloud.

    Nothing substantive will change (the deficit hawk, LOL, Ryan with his 120billion “reduction” that didn’t even bring it back to the budget from 2 years ago.

    Me will be a Ron Paul write-in.

    And, disregarding Rick’s advice to keep it apolitical, because the context today does justify this, I do not believe in the proposition that there is anything to abandon (“…persuade them to abandon their program to build a nuclear bomb”).
    But that a whole bunch of people are itching for war, no doubt about that, just the proferred reason is in doubt. (really, what war ever was started for the proferred reason, at least in “democracy’s”time?).

    • Rick Ackerman September 10, 2012, 9:11 pm

      Even the IAEA no longer has doubts about whether Iran is building a bomb, Chris. As a reality check, click here for a bracing dose of Max Frisch’s ‘The Firebugs’.

  • Rick Ackerman September 10, 2012, 6:11 pm

    Incumbents have been cast out in every Western nation that’s held an election, and there’s no reason to think America’s presidential election will turn out differently — especially given Obama’s almost perfect record of failure economically, politically and militarily. The mood of voters will be greatly influenced by factors that James Kunstler has pungently described at Clusterfuck Nation:

    “In office, then, Mr. Obama quickly proved to be a different breed of porpoise than the voters bargained for. He let the Wall Street privateers run amuck another four years, aided with colossal infusions of conjured-out-of-nothing ‘money’ from the Federal Reserve. He let loose the demons of a high-tech totalitarian ‘security’ state with every sort of electronic surveillance, citizen data-mining, and drone spying that innovation allowed. He stood silent like a Banana Republic store mannequin after the supreme court decided that corporations could buy elections (he could have pushed loudly for legislation or even a constitutional amendment to redefine corporate ‘personhood’). And of course, he continued to prosecute the absurd war in Afghanistan where, after nine years, US forces are unable to accomplish the only aims of being there: to control the terrain and to moderate the behavior of the people who live there.

    “Hence, the appalling spectacle of the Democratic convention last week, with its odor of ideological bankruptcy, stale rhetoric, and empty promises. The party seeks only validation of its cherished fantasy: the social justice of reelecting the first black president. And all it really has to offer is cheerleading to that end – with some social justice table-scraps tossed to the lesser totems of social justice politics: women, assorted ethnic minorities, and gays.

    “Meanwhile, the ‘advanced nations’ of industrial civilization all spiral into coordinated disintegration, especially in the realm where economy meets finance. Economy is about what we actually do to stay alive: make things, trade things, grow things, run things. Finance is supposed to be about maintaining the flows of accumulated wealth to support these things we do – with a modest service charge for the financiers who do the work. But in the great divorce of truth from reality in our time, finance is only about pretending to maintain these ‘capital’ flows. In fact, it has degenerated into a set of looting operations, swindles, frauds, and political dodges, and it is on the verge of blowing up.”

    Not exactly the sort of environment that would favor the incumbent. Or would you deny the truth and accuracy of Kunstler’s observations?

    • martin schnell September 10, 2012, 8:21 pm

      Your first sentence is not quite true. The incumbent in Canada was re-elected nationally, and in the Province of Ontario, Canada’s largest province.

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      Your response only strengthens my case. I’m sure you could find a few more exceptions if you work at it diligently, Martin. RA

    • BDTR September 10, 2012, 8:56 pm

      Truthi-ness is the new standard for the night-crawler politicos.

      Kunstler simply hasn’t accurately factored the public’s Windex-index transparency ratio of observable RoboMoney’$ odious, slithering post-capitalist narcissism.

      He’s evolving so rapidly into complete worm-hood to require subterranean homesick blues-pills absent his frequent forced retreats into freshly turned truthi-compost, while regurgitating non-factoid-slime statements and squirming to the tune of ‘Taxman’,”…and you’re working for no one but me.”

      Meantime, Obongo dancin’ the re-election tango.

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      The pollsters had Wisconsin handicapped as a dead heat, BDTR, but they’ll have a chance to do even worse this time. RA

  • Andrew Gutterman September 10, 2012, 4:19 pm

    The money crowd disagrees with your prediction:

    http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/

    Andy

    • Rick Ackerman September 10, 2012, 4:33 pm

      I am quite confident the money crowd will prove to be wrong. As for MS’s challenge, I have already placed my bets.

  • PhotoRadarScam September 10, 2012, 4:19 pm

    In the end, it won’t matter who gets elected.

    • Rick Ackerman September 10, 2012, 4:44 pm

      Economically speaking, you are right. But I’ll continue to insist that Supreme Court appointments matter.

    • redwilldanaher September 10, 2012, 6:57 pm

      I agree with you to an extent Rick. Ah but for Roberts…

  • ms September 10, 2012, 3:31 pm

    Since your are a odds player Rick, I would like to put a wager on your Romney pick. I say O cruises past R. Let’s play.

    • ms September 11, 2012, 12:16 am

      hey Rick…still waiting for your wager. It’s going to be a rout…your Romney is going to win….play your hand…. winner takes all. I say Obama gets at least 300 EV’s.

  • gary leibowitz September 10, 2012, 3:31 pm

    I thought, from this esteemed panel, that the last 4 years was pure manipulation and card tricks. Why Rick himself declared that there is no way we can recover from the debt implosion and crash. Now I see Rick declaring Obama didn’t do enough to warrent a re-election. So which is it? Obama’s failed policies, or an economic fracture that can’t be fixed? For the last 4 years every opportunity that presented itself as a possible rally that looked to set up a crash ending reversal Rick pounced on.

    Now to the Repuiblicans. They seem to be very obtuse when it comes to picking presidential candidates. First it was the most liberal left wing republican candidate 4 years ago that must have been having a brain seizure when he elected Ms. Alaska as his running mate. It seems Ms. Alaska doesn’t read newspapers but relies on her information from watching the Ruskies from her great advantage point. She also vows to unite all african nations into one since it is much easier for her to set policy that way.

    Now we have the candidate that epitomizes what class warfare is all about. His insistence not to reveal his last 5 tax returns is a bit strange, since his fathers released 12 years of returns. His paltry tax rate, hiding funds in off shore accounts, choosing a job that attacks weak badly run companies and disbanding them and their workers for a profit, doesn’t seem to me the “ideal” candidate to turn this country around.

    Romneys own “adaptive” policy is to give more back to the least needy, a robin hood for the wealthy. Yes lets go back to the days without any government interference. Days where being an owner of a company meant absolute power. The arguments from the EX-CEO of Citi should be disregarded since he knows not what he says. The billionare club that insist the wealth imbalance is out of control must also bee discarded since they obviously are drunkards.

    Now to the Supreme Court that liberally stated that Corprations are People too. This ONE decision has set the stage for massive “buying of elections” by the rich and powerful. I do wonder when the conservative court comes back.

    Bizzare world we live in where every single decision that favors the already rich and powerful is declared conservative, and any scraps that favor the poor and middle class charaterized as looney fringe liberal.

    Lets elect this billionare so he can truly show us just how to run a country. I suppose he can disband the United States by selling off all its valuable property and allowing China for example to dispose of the pieces as they see fit.

    A reality show couldn’t come up with a more bizzare unlikely scenario than what we have today. A bright young black man with a degrees from Harvard making Magna Cum Laude, community rights organizer and civil rights lawyer in Chicago, that became the 44th president of the USA. He is not rich and did not come from a rich family. Romney born into a well to do family that was steeped in politics. Raised a Morman with laudable childhood upbringing that showed his religious compassion. Somewhere along the way he became the head of a leveraged buyout firm where he made most of his forturn today, by firing hundreds of workers and obsolving the comany of its cash and valuable assets.

    Can anyone make this stuff up?

    A reality TV show? No, it would never get off the ground since most hollywood execs would consider it too unrealistic for people to believe it.

    • redwilldanaher September 10, 2012, 3:38 pm

      Rick, does your forum allow for the “puking” emoticon?

    • John Jay September 10, 2012, 5:37 pm

      Gary,
      “He is not rich and did not come from a rich family.”
      Neither did Bill Clinton.
      Do you really think either character, Slick Willy or Obama were not chosen by the oligarchs to play the POTUS role?
      The payoff comes after they get out of office.
      Here is the link which I will not tinyurl to leave the article title intact:
      http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/05/its-not-about-reelection-bill-clintons-80-million-payday.html
      Here is an excerpt:
      “The reason Obama won’t prosecute bankers, or run anything but a very mild sort of populism, is because he’s not really talking to voters. He just wants to be slightly more appealing than Romney. He’s really talking to the people who made Bill and Hillary Clinton a very wealthy couple, his future prospective clients. We don’t call it bribery, but that’s what it is. Bill Clinton made a lot of money when he signed the bill deregulating derivatives and repealed Glass-Steagall. The payout just came later, in the form of speaking fees from elite banks and their allies.”

      Another quote from George Carlin:
      “They don’t care about you, they don’t care about you, they don’t care about you!
      At all, at all, at all!”

    • Robert September 10, 2012, 5:37 pm

      Gary-

      Explain to me why Romney has to release past tax returns if Obama doesn’t have to release his Occidental College admission records…

      Both are private records- why is one candidate “expected to release what is requested” when the other is not?

      Quid Pro Quo.

      Romney is an empty suit- Bain capital is aptly named, for it is a Bain on real productivity. A predator that seeks ways to kill its host; which then metamorphoses into a scavenger that makes sure it gets fat on the carcass.

      But at least Romney has a brain and a pedigree, but don’t confuse that with any real endorsement or support of the man- I think he is nothing more than a corporate sociopath of the same ilk as Jamie Dimon.

      Obama however is an utter buffoon – He thinks poor Americans just need “help” and “a fair shot” at becoming real business people; which is probably the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard from a candidate since “Read my lips…”

      Obama would do well to open a pizza place, and spend a week learning about what it means to actually create and deliver something REAL.

      This whole election might as well just be re-dubbed as “Soros versus Netanyahu”

    • gary leibowitz September 10, 2012, 9:30 pm

      Robert,
      The Occidental admission records are as silly as asking for all 3 forms from his birth certificate.

      ” That rationale may strike some as a little flimsy, given that Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review, taught constitutional law, has two bestselling books to his credit and is, at the moment, leader of the free world.”

      I guess he got some special treatment being a foreign student and all. Why he must be an alien that somehow planned that he would be running for president all those years ago, and had people in very high places cover his tracks. Even those billionaires that support Romney can’t get anywhere in uncovering his ominous past.

      If you can’t accept a world where a black man can be smart, aggressive, and even become powerful on his own, than no paper or “proof” will ever suffice.

  • Rantly McTirade September 10, 2012, 3:29 pm

    ~ 3% is robust? A variation on Moynihan’s phrase-
    ‘defining speculation down’.
    Further strength would, however, put another big
    stake in the heart of the ‘deflationary implosion’
    scenario-it ain’t a gonna happen, in the US, as long as
    the US can print up all the fiat, including new credit/debt,that it desires. Further new cyclical highs in asset markets are a big blast of flatulence in the face of debt deflation-if it was gonna happen here, it would have
    done so.
    Itulip still winning-its’ an ugly outlook but its’ not a
    debt deflation.

    &&&&&&

    Your notion of ‘further strength’ is defining down inflation, Rantly. Take a gander at Europe if you’re unpersuaded that deflation absolutely rules, all the blather about QE notwithstanding. RA

    • Rantly McTirade September 11, 2012, 3:45 pm

      DAX & FTSE within 5% of cycle(post-09) highs’
      London RE as bubbly as ever; real economies stink-
      actually Depressionary around the periphery but
      assets pumped(pimped?) up. If classic debt deflation
      was gonna happen in the US, it would have hit in ’08-09, when it had the perfect opportunity. Benny the Bubbler and other stooges stuffed it. Again in no way is there a ‘good’ real economy outlook for the US(and pretty much everyplace else), its just not gonna be truly deflationary-especially in terms of asset prices. Next cyclical equity bear market may have risk to the lows of summer 2010, or about 30% off the recent highs, a bit more off the 1470-80 you’re talking about. But if we clear 1470-80, then it may be quite a while until we get that bear cycle and it may be the ’11 lows that are the maximum pain.

  • redwilldanaher September 10, 2012, 3:23 pm

    Do States Have a Right of Secession?
    Walter Williams (2002.04.19 ) Politics, Capitalism Magazine

    Do states have a right of secession? That question was settled through the costly War of 1861. In his recently published book, “The Real Lincoln,” Thomas DiLorenzo marshals abundant unambiguous evidence that virtually every political leader of the time and earlier believed that states had a right of secession.

    My questions are the same as they have always been:

    Why spar (as desired btw) over two NWO puppets when a much, much better option exists?

    Do you really want to solve the problem(s) or just complain about them?

    • Carol September 10, 2012, 3:30 pm

      Red how can the “States” succeed when there are no “States” left only federal districts?

    • redwilldanaher September 10, 2012, 3:36 pm

      It’s simple. You have a much better chance to effect change locally. You can get your pitchfork to a state capital much easier than Mordor on the Potomac. You reassert your right to statehood. You then secede.

      There is only one way to confront a bully. It’s cowardly and ultimately immoral not to do so. If you believe that you can participate within the system and change the tide then you have already been defeated and worse you are only slightly elevated from the level of Zombie…

    • BDTR September 10, 2012, 6:55 pm

      What are you doing (not) in jail there? (assuming;)

      The deciding factor for me sitting out this election, (markets as well), was the revealing pronouncement of guilt on Bradley Manning by our illustrious constitutional scholar president.

      Secession is and has always been a personal act, Red.
      It’s only a movement when enough individuals practice what they personally claim to believe.

      When we all stop voting and throwing money at worthless candidates and markets, things will change.

    • John Jay September 10, 2012, 9:22 pm

      Red,
      If the States were interested in restoring the Republic, we would have had a Constitutional Convention decades ago. That would fix things, there would be no need to secede from the Union.
      However, in spite of theatrical protestations by various States about the 10th Amendment and Nullification and State Rights etc., it is obvious they all want the Federal money. Remember all the howling and infighting when the big base closure deal went through? No one wanted to lose even one base and the jobs they provided. They can posture all they want, but they will never quit the Union and give up their place at the Federal trough! Mathematics and actuarial tables are the only things that will end the madness. Now the market is planning on ZIRP (or NIRP) to 2015 and beyond!
      Was there ever any doubt about that happening?

      There is very little left of a productive economy here or anywhere on the planet, for that matter.
      The real jobs have been spread all over the Earth.
      Since the late Neal Armstrong walked on the moon in 1969 the world population has gone from 3.5 to 7 billion people, and growing daily. The wealth pie is being shared by more and more who get less and less.
      Debt and fiat money creation have been used for decades to mask this fact. Reality is starting to bite hard in Greece, Spain, and Portugal. ZIRP, our bloated military, and the USD reserve status is all that stands between the USA and reality now.

    • redwilldanaher September 12, 2012, 3:07 pm

      It’s the only solution but it is as you state. Bottom line is that the only way to really win is to leave. Anything less than that and you and your state are stuck in a prisoner to warden relationship and so on as your state relates to Mordor on the Potomac. If you want to remain incarcerated then by all means keep playing the game as TPTB wants and expects you to…

  • Don September 10, 2012, 3:11 pm

    Why to consider voting for Obama?
    Because of his leadership abilities? not hardly.
    Because of his understanding of basic economics? not likely.
    Because of his integrity? must be joking.
    So why, consider voting for “O”?

    With his spending ideology and his faithful El Captain’s ie. H. Reid and N. Pelossi and the Bernanke we are certain to have much, more debt, and prolonged low to non-existent interest rates.

    This is great for gold and silver; at least 3 times over the next 4 years and the high dividend reits of 14-16% with these current interest rates for free cash-flow.

    So the decision has presented itself in what is in the best interest of you and your family or what is in the best interest of your country.

    • BDTR September 10, 2012, 6:32 pm

      “…what is in the best interest of you and your family or what is in the best interest of your country.”

      How are they mutually exclusive, and how are either served by either of the candidates? You sound like Rick who supports Robo-Money because he detests Obama.

      That’s your call, of course, but it doesn’t mean that’s… “what is in the best interest of you and your family or what is in the best interest of your country.”

      It’s a sad thing when all that remains is a subjective perception of lesser evils that drives us to vote, …or not.

      Good luck relying on artificial interest rate environment when the SHTF.

  • John Jay September 10, 2012, 2:54 pm

    We have entered a new, bizarro world where Politics and Hollywood have merged.
    Mitt and Obama both remind me of classic Televangelists in $2,000 suits praising the Lord with a smirk on their face while fleecing the adoring mob to pay for their mansions and Gulfstream jets!
    Are we ever screwed or what?

    • mario cavolo September 10, 2012, 4:30 pm

      …hey JJ, you touched my favorite nerve….! 🙂 Cheers, Mario

  • mac September 10, 2012, 1:07 pm

    …sure, more spin, like the US told Saddam (Allister Gillespie, US ambassador) that it was not interested in Iraq’s dispute with Kuwait, then a quick about face and – US starts bombing Iraq!
    Israel got numerous nukes? Wow, how they do that? Amazing people, can start a new country out of nothing, and presto – a few hundred nukes.
    Somebody here “know” that Iran is making a nuke? And the source of this “fact”…?
    Be Strong in 2012 – do not vote.
    U know they r all the same by now. Bankster stooges, they do zip for u, can’t even pass a spending bill, they have left the building, and you are in a country speeding into 3rd world status, while half of your debt is for more guns.
    Vote if you want – it will do zip.

  • martin schnell September 10, 2012, 1:07 pm

    Wow! Talk about living in an alternate reality with one’s own facts. It is this kind of political commentary devoid of rationality that makes me worry about your stock judgements.

    1. Romney is the worst candidate in a generation. Period!
    2. The only reason this is close is because the corporate media wants a horse race (more advertising).
    3. Go into the polling data on a state by state basis (the only basis that matters – it doesn’t matter how many votes Romney gets in Utah), and it is all but impossible to see a Romney path to victory. The GOP have pulled out of Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin. Obama is now up in Ohio (the folks there liked the auto bailout), leaving Romney … where? Florida is going to rough with Ryan on the ballot too.
    4. Obama has learned from Rove. They have ruthlessly attacked Romney in the battleground states, driving up his negatives before the race even got going. (Remember they only have to do this in the battlegrounds, and that is why the race still looks close nationally).
    5. The people are stupid but not stupid enough to think that the same economic crew that surrounded Bush, and now surround Romney, should be allowed anywhere near the levers of power again.

    Totally agree that Obama has problems. He has been far far too centrist (remember Obamacare is really just Romneycare dressed up a little) in his approaches, unwilling to really take on the banks and the elites. BUT putting Romney, a card carrying member of the elites, a man who made his fortune as a capitalist parasite par excellence, into a position of power is probably a step too far for even the sheeple.

    And when it comes down to it …. and it does … people just don’t like Romney. He is, magic underpants and all, just plain weird.

    • BDTR September 10, 2012, 1:51 pm

      Whole heartedly agree, Martin.

      I would only add that since within the next few years, and likely very much sooner, the great unraveling will ensue in earnest.

      Obama at least has the ability to connect with a large share of Americans, while Robo-money has all the charm of dysentery and the credibility of bus station toilet paper.

      Champion the well intentioned if politically impossible Ron Paul, or even the politically adept and virtually invisible Rocky Anderson, but for Christ’s sake, Rick, Robo-Money!?

      We all know what’s coming irrespective of who’s delivering the bad ‘news’ from the White House. The one big unknown is who would be quicker to distract from the financial inevitable with WAR.

      Seems pretty clear who has less resistant political backbone to that go-to. God help us all if it’s Mittens.

    • Rick Ackerman September 11, 2012, 12:18 am

      ‘Judgment’ seldom enters into my forecasts, Schnell. I’m a technician, and if you are truly worried about the ‘rationality’ of my stock-market predictions, you need only ask around the neighborhood to be reassured.

  • VegasBob September 10, 2012, 9:33 am

    While I haven’t quite made the leap of faith necessary for me to actually vote for a Republican, I have decided that I will not vote for Mr. Obama a second time under any circumstances. My vote for Mr. Obama in 2008 has proved to be a terrible mistake. The phrase that comes to mind is “fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.” I won’t be fooled again by Mr. Obama.

    I too believe that Mr. Romney will win the Presidency handily on November 6th. Many of those planning to vote for Mr. Obama are lukewarm about it at best. I suspect that abysmal jobs reports for September (October 5) and October (November 2) will convince enough voters that retaining Mr. Obama for 4 more years would be an unmitigated disaster, and thus provide Mr. Romney a comfortable victory.

  • John Jay September 10, 2012, 6:31 am

    I agree with Pat, Romney will have a tough time defeating Obama. The 66 million people who voted for Obama the last time did not give their choice a lot of thought, it was knee jerk all the way. Blacks, Hispanics, Government Workers, SSDI recipients, Food Stamp shoppers, Liberals, etc. are still a lock for Obama, no matter what.

    Retail is still moving out of equities into bond funds the last time I checked. The bond market is the last, best chance for the big money to clean out the insurance companies, pension funds, and retail investors.
    The final, Big Sting which would leave them Top of the World, once and for all
    I think the Fed members banks are very nervous about all the US Government paper they are holding.
    The housing bubble scam was quite awhile ago.
    They need another big game to work.
    They must be at least tempted to outright short Treasuries, Munis, and Corporate bonds or use derivatives and crash it all .
    If they are set up for it, all it would take is one honest 5, 10, or 30 year auction to spring the trap and clean up.
    A long shot, I agree, but still, I bet they are thinking about it.
    Honest, productive investments are not on their agenda at all, don’t you agree?
    They need another huge scam where they come out on top, and the serfs give up what little they have left to their name.

  • PhotoRadarScam September 10, 2012, 3:28 am

    Stocks are indeed headed higher into the election, much higher than SP500 @ 1470. Get your profits on the upside in the next 2 months. I’m getting out of the markets after the election, although going short at that time will be profitable.

    • Pat September 10, 2012, 5:01 am

      I certainly agree that stocks will go much higher than 1470 SPX. I see new all-time highs easily by the end of the year. As far as the election, Romney is going to get killed by O’bama. Think about it…. O’bama will get just about 100% of the black/hispanic minority vote, at least 50% of the female vote, and then you have all those “takers” who are collecting welfare, disability, food stamps, extended – extended unemployment benefits, and earned income credit recipients. Who do you think they’re going to vote for ? … it sure as hell isn’t going to be Romney. they’ll vote for whoever is going to keep the “goodies” flowing for them. So O’bama wins the election with ease.

      And then we have the dreaded “fiscal cliff” to worry about, right ? Wrong … our do-nothing political wimps will just tack another $2 trillion on the national debt and that alone will be good for at least another 5-10% upside in the markets. Sure, gold, oil and commods will go along for the ride, but that “wealth effect” will offset the $5 gasoline and $5 gallon of milk prices. LOL
      Bernanke gets reappointed in 2014 and stocks keep going higher for at least another 3-4 years. Sometime afterwards the SHTF, but for now just stay long and buy any 2-3% dip in the markets. easy money !