1600-Point Dow Surge Looking Increasingly Likely

Based on the S&P 500’s brash behavior lately, effortlessly blowing past Hidden Pivot resistance points major and minor, we wrote here recently that the fuse could be lit for a 130-point explosion. That would be equivalent to a Dow move of about 1000 points – a spectacular surge, especially if it were to occur over a period of not months but weeks. However, a coldly dispassionate look at the Dow’s monthly chart bolsters the case for an even bigger rally – a 1600-point moon shot.  That would bring the Dow to exactly 16810, and although the target promises to be a great place to fade buyers, we’re not going to risk the farm on it. Nor do we plan on wasting our breath cursing bulls every inch of the way up. If they’re intent on pushing the blue chip average to nearly 17000, there’s no reason to fight the tape, especially since a pile of money could be made betting the pass line.

We are hardly alone. Some noted gurus have confidently been predicting Dow 20000 for some time. We would lump them together as publicity-seeking windbags who picked the number 20000 out of thin air simply because it sounds good. Wouldn’t you feel more comfortable buying into such a scenario when it has been endorsed by a forecaster who not only has a very precise target in mind, but who gets nauseated at the very thought that it might be achieved?

Too Bullish on Goldman

Some will say we’re throwing in the towel, but consider the facts. Although we’ve hated this bull since it took off from 6470 in March of 2009, as traders we have played both the ups and downs of the move — profiting more, actually, from bullish positions than from bearish ones. Sometimes we have even been too bullish. A butterfly option spread we’d advised in Goldman, for example, is turning out to have been much too optimistic. But we never shunned the stock just because the firm is run, like the Government itself, by a bunch of sleazeballs, liars and thieves.  Who cares, as long as we’re on the right side of the move whenever stocks are in motion?  And it’s not as though we won’t be paying very close attention whenever the Dow approaches a potentially short-able rally-stopper (the first of which lies at 15543).

We’ll also admit to having obsessed at times over Hidden Pivot rally targets as though each had the potential to deliver the Mother of All Tops. As a result, we were generally too cautious about joining the buying stampede.  And for good reason. Bulls seem to have abandoned common sense, seduced by an economic mirage that could end at any moment.  Nor would the mirage become even the least bit more convincing if stocks were to continue to rampage.

So now we say: screw logic, reasoning and interpretation. Pretend instead that the Dow’s chart is Comex Gold’s, then see how it looks. In fact, the Dow’s chart says higher — much higher – and that is reason enough to suppress a gut feeling that it’s too late in the game to dive in. Contrarians who are convinced that our change of heart is the kiss of death for the stock market can fade us if they wish. But they should hold the guffaws for now, just in case.

  • Mario May 20, 2013, 3:11 am

    Indeed for too many it’s too slow a realization that the masters of the universe have simply and steadily wrote nee set of rules for the global economy. Fruitcake s run this scam didn’t include China in the list of countries on the printing bandwagon. Gee, they are only the 2nd largest economic power in the world and soon to become the first. Nothing personal, just goes to show how human beings filter out, generalize, deleted, or distort their thought stream as they deal with life, to be accurate, dispassionate and unbiased in our thinking is not easy.

    There are, along with this new set of frightening rules for the new reality of our time two other obvious realities. 1. Continued stealth inflation, exactly as I have always suggested and 2. Lots of people out there are doing fine and spending plenty of money, revenue is coming from somewhere! This group simply doesn’t include the 100 million or so lower/middle income citizens whose lives are getting worse not better. To ONLY blame the govt and bankers and elites is not reasonable, as egregious as their sins are. Tech developments and other innovations are also reshaping and transforming societies, for good and bad, and doing so at an accelerated rate.

    Cheers, Mario

    • fruit cakes run this scam May 20, 2013, 3:56 am

      “masters of the universe”??? more like frauds of the universe. any yes Mario I also live in China. And China is on the printing bandwagon to keep up with the exchanges. My issue is with the blatant lies and manipulation going on. Millions and millions of Chinese people, rich and poor, are lined up buying gold. Has someone told them they are about to get robbed by paper and a media that is so fake it makes me sick. The big banks and other “frauds of the universe” have been saying for months to short gold and also attacked it in the media. I’m sure the banks and other dirt bags will tell you a few months before the price starts to go up?

    • mario cavolo May 20, 2013, 4:21 am

      We’re definitely agreeing, masters was far too kind use of the word. Surprised then you you had forgotten to include China in the list of liquidity printers…I’ve been here 13 years, mostly in Shanghai, yourself? Cheers, Mario

    • Troll May 20, 2013, 4:45 am

      No, Fruitcakes, they ARE the masters of the universe. Do you honestly think you are going to protect yourself with gold? They can ruin usin any way they want. ANY way, if you want to buy into the tinfoil hat scenario, that is. Gold isn’t going to protect you from anything if the “frauds of the universe” decide to put you down like a cancer-stricken dog. They don’t care and they have more money than the rest of us, collectively. That is, if you want to spread the word how everyone is out to get us, of course. And yeah, big money hates people and can’t wait for computers and Arnold Schwarzenegger clones to take over the world.

    • Troll May 20, 2013, 4:50 am

      One other question Fruit Cakes: Why haven’t the frauds of the universe just nuked our sorry asses and got it over with?

  • ter May 19, 2013, 7:42 pm

    Thanks Rick for this very informative essay.

  • PhotoRadarScam May 19, 2013, 2:18 pm

    This bull run clearly has another month or two left in it…

  • gary leibowitz May 17, 2013, 7:01 pm

    When I have to question Rick’s overly optimistic assumption on the market is the time I should consider we are nearing a top. Maybe “the top”. While I thought this recent rally will last till end of July/early August I did not envision a straight up move. Who knows. Perhaps I should trust his technical skills since it happened in spite of his long standing bearish views.

    Gold is certainly responding as if this rally is for real.

    • redwilldanaher May 17, 2013, 9:27 pm

      Yep, gold “responds”. Keep your head in the sand Gary. Ignore BDTR and FCRTS above. If you spent 10 minutes reading about the NY FED and JPM et al. and how they manipulate the metals market you’d come off as a lot more credible.

      For goodness sakes the LIBOR market was manhandled Gary. The ratings agencies and federal governments helped your beloved firms pull off the biggest scam in history as recently as only a few years ago and you try to act as if its no more no less than at any other time.

      Your schtick is wearing thin. You’d better develop some new material.

    • Troll May 18, 2013, 2:22 am

      When Rick is wrong, Gary, it is with the least damage possible, and there’s a caveat: you have to stick to the rules. The rules are there for you to see on a spread sheet he sends to everyone who takes the course and there is no questioning it. Follow the rules.

      Troll (Trite and Tool)

    • Rick Ackerman May 18, 2013, 4:42 am

      The chart that I’ve displayed with the current commentary is, as far as I’m concerned, unambiguous about a Dow rally to 16800. This seems preposterous to me, but I’ve learned to trust technical analysis over my own judgment and instincts.

    • Troll May 18, 2013, 5:09 am

      Yes, Rick, people questioned your intelligence (most of them silently) when you came up with a bearish chart for gold (even though we all know you are bullish on gold and cater to like-minded individuals) but by the sound of things, most didn’t listen. Maybe they will, now. Finally.

  • C.C. May 17, 2013, 6:04 pm

    “I continue to be amazed at their level of near religious conviction despite overwhelming odds but also feel pity for their obvious lack of insight. They are a sad lot because taking money from them has been so stupidly easy. Maybe I suffer a bit of guilt for shorting against them after reading a mountain of their childish rationalizations for why gold or silver will go higher while instead month after month they give up their decade long gains like candy.”

    Funny, I don’t remember being burgled by You… Did you replace my gold with Bugs Bunny spray painted rocks, Black Jack Shellac…?

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 17, 2013, 10:58 pm

      I left a nickel under your pillow! Just like the tooth fairy.

  • BDTR May 17, 2013, 5:43 pm

    ‘Look, a golden winged ship is passing my way

    And it really didn’t have to stop, it just kept on going…

    And so castles made of sand slips into the sea, eventually’

    – Jimi

    Prevailing, …very timely word, Red. Serf’s up, dude!

  • DP May 17, 2013, 4:10 pm

    Cam:
    For what it’s worth, I’m fully invested in precious metals and doing quite well, thank you. They’ll either offer me fair value for them, or pry them from my cold dead hands.

    I’ll see you on the other side.

  • Cam Fitzgerald May 17, 2013, 3:59 pm

    Red, I did read the article. I therefore responded to two sentences in particular (quoted below) while having in mind a change in position Rick once took on the inflation/deflation debate that caused him some grief as it was seen by one or two people as some sort of betrayal of the creed. I read the site daily so I am more than aware of Ricks position meanwhile and I certainly know he has taken profits from both sides of the trade. It is the perception of other readers though who have been quick to criticize that I know is inevitable if a change of heart on the immediacy of “the Mother of all tops” is being discussed. Sometime your worst enemies are your friends and supporters who won’t let you easily back out of a position without taking a lot of flack that is being addressed. Plus this was a good opportunity for me to take the piss out the gold nuts just for fun.

    “Some will say we’re throwing in the towel, but consider the facts. Although we’ve hated the stock market since the very first rally off 2009’s bottom at 6470, as traders we have played both the ups and downs of the move………We’ll also admit to having obsessed at times over Hidden Pivot rally targets as though each had the potential to deliver the Mother of All Tops. As a result, we were generally too cautious about joining the buying stampede”. RA

    • redwilldanaher May 17, 2013, 4:24 pm

      I agree with these comments Cam. However, may I point out that gold longs have beat the balls of off equity longs over the past 10 years. As you know, it is not even close…

      Some of us liked gold near $300 and silver between $4 and $5.

      IMO the metals bugs overwhelmingly have the facts on their side but they seem to have a blind spot for the fact that the rules are nonexistent to the prevailing PTB and can and will be abused, changed, or ignored at any time. If “it” (the charade) wasn’t an entirely rigged game, we’d all be serfs on goldbug plantations at this point. Since it is an entirely rigged game, we’re serfs on globalist cabal/mic/fire plantations instead.

  • Pep May 17, 2013, 2:48 pm

    I noticed that a number of gold Etf,s and some major gold/silver stocks are on another(sic) triple bottom ! breakdowns on the p&f charts as of may 15,16.p&f are really the only charts to use if you only had one choice.

    • Troll May 19, 2013, 12:22 am

      I’ve known plenty of people using point and figure charts who aren’t in the same ballpark as Rick, when it comes to technical accuracy. However, if it works for you, that is your one choice.

  • Nitram May 17, 2013, 1:06 pm
  • Cam Fitzgerald May 17, 2013, 10:53 am

    Great post, Rick. It is never too late to change positions if there is still opportunity to profit. Indeed that might be the hallmark of one who exhibits the necessary flexibility to achieve gains no matter which way the wind might blow. Certainly it is preferred to the strategy of the “stick in the mud” gold bulls who defy all reason and common sense by refusing to reverse positions despite tremendous losses. What good can come of that? I do not understand how anyone can enjoy backing themselves into a philosophical corner and locking in losses month after month despite overwhelming odds simply to make a point that is based on flawed and outdated information. It epitomizes stupidity and reminds how the Neanderthal and other hominids went extinct by failing to appreciate how the better organized newcomers were taking them to the very edge of survival as a species by employing superior strategies and tactics. So in the event that anyone comes here and tries kicking sand in your eyes for appearing to change course or go against long held views you might just enjoy the last laugh knowing that the key to survival in this kind of market is knowing when to cut losses and move with the crowd (even when they appear headed off a cliff!!). The real trick is knowing when to get out ahead of the herd.

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 17, 2013, 12:38 pm

      Just to be clear…..when I refer to “cutting losses” I am specifically referring to the camp of precious metals buyers who more and more appear a dying breed of investor who prefer to suffer financial loss while appearing righteous in their simplistic view of the impact of intervention on their favorite asset class. I continue to be amazed at their level of near religious conviction despite overwhelming odds but also feel pity for their obvious lack of insight. They are a sad lot because taking money from them has been so stupidly easy. Maybe I suffer a bit of guilt for shorting against them after reading a mountain of their childish rationalizations for why gold or silver will go higher while instead month after month they give up their decade long gains like candy. Are they children or Neanderthals? I suppose it matters not. In a zero sum game somebody has to lose and I am just happy it is not me.

      &&&&&&

      I toured the Nevada gold properties of Rye Patch last week and came away convinced that, like many good little juniors, the company is sitting on assets that are enormously undervalued. That could change if the gold price continues to fall, Cam, but I would hardly describe those who have stuck it out as Neanderthals. RA

    • fruit cakes run this scam May 17, 2013, 12:42 pm

      got to give the fruit cakes running this circus a hand. somehow they have managed to pump stocks up and absolutely destroy gold and all supposedly legally (look at those yields). Europe, USA, JPN are all printing billions every month and this = gold short and long stocks? They say everything is in deflation mode (except stocks of course). But just look at the cost in your local grocery store or the cost to mail something at the Post Office. There is your real deflation that you can see with your own eyes. The other day France announced a recession (to be revised) and the same day FTSE up %1? Now those are some yields. It also appears that “they” seem to think by pumping up stocks the population will spend more $. However, its mostly baby boomers owning stocks. How many 70 year olds go buy new 50″ tvs (not made in the US of course) or new cars (not made in the US of course)? the lies are so blatantly obvious i cant understand how anyone can believe it. in fact, im sure nobody does believe it, yet the scam keeps on trucking along. its actually a bit funny waiting to hear a report knowing that everything in it will be a lie (and short gold/long stocks

    • redwilldanaher May 17, 2013, 2:47 pm

      I don’t see how Rick is appearing to change course. I don’t see how he appears to be going against long held beliefs. I’ve been familiar with this site for 5 or 6 years at least and the entire time Rick has espoused trading the charts and not the news. The entire time.

      What I can’t understand is how so many of you read past the parts where Rick states just that and then proceed to conflate his disgust with the multiple mirages with his predominantly bullish forecasts for equities (solely technically based).

      I learned what Rick learned a long time ago and feel exactly as he does. Just because we lament fraud and unprosecuted crimes and know that these hypermanipulations will eventually end badly because the TPTB will overplay their hand or pull the plug just for fun, doesn’t mean that we don’t participate in impulse waves to the upside.

      I had friends and family out before the plunge and have had them back in for most of this aburd ride higher. The signal to me was when they began changing all the rules and brazenly breaking the laws all over again and announced at one of their international fraud fest via a stereotypically French sophisticate, and I also knew that they’d at least have to try this simply because all of the insurers in the world and the rest of the “system” would have imploded due to guarantees made in variable annuities alone.

      So yes, you can hate what you see, comment as such, and still profit from it…

    • BDTR May 17, 2013, 5:20 pm

      Is this a ‘market’, or is it just the ultimate lemming set-up that dwarfs all prior sector bubble contrivances as precursor to a macro reset?

      (Won’t even touch the questionable morality of participation in a purely thieves market:)

      Do stop loss controls under these extreme conditions offer any protection as expected when massive, institutional volume exits surreptitiously on insider agenda, occurring in nano-second flash-crash fashion, … cratering instantly sans any rebound in any time frame ala mother-of-all variety?

      And, when hard reality finally does retake electronic illusion as dominant driver as it most certainly will, what’s assumed on a basis of historic ability to mitigate exposure may, too, in hindsight be seen as kool-aid illusory.

      When manipulative power is so concentrated, so arrogant, consequences of such imbalance have always proved catastrophic and generally unexpected to the targeted, market-lemming-marks.

      Even seemingly sophisticated converts from reason now think that this time… it’s different.

      (Btw, Cam, and just to be clear, be careful conflating historical with hysterical. Jus’sayin’;)

      &&&&&&

      I’m convinced, as you are, that this bull market is the ‘ultimate lemming set-up’, and that’s why I believe the crash will be so precipitous that no one will escape. For the reasons you’ve cited, I have no illusions about being protected by stop-losses, even when I hold positions for mere minutes when day-trading. That’s why I lean toward trading options on stocks rather than the stocks themselves, even though this adds another layer of complexity and difficulty to the game. RA

    • redwilldanaher May 17, 2013, 5:25 pm

      Great comments BDTR. I know you’re not touching it but: self preservation/survival instinct.

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 17, 2013, 8:52 pm

      In fact, I would be more that happy to hear much more about Rye Patch or any other good miner sitting on a lode, Rick. My preference has always been for resource plays and I would agree the upside potential is staggering once this period of consolidation in metals is over. My objection to the gold-bugs is that they have not been able to see the obvious coming (a big windshield) and as a result I have been at war with them for this past year while they spewed utter nonsense day in and day out without consideration for any other point of view. Some of them have gone beyond civil discussion. I lost patience with the whole lot long ago. They are not reasonable or rational as a group so I feel little sympathy for them as gold continues to fall month after month.