World Will Feel the Drag of Europe’s Austerity

(Cam Fitzgerald’s recent guest commentary here, “Britain Becomes the First to Choose Deflation,” drew a heavy response – more than 120 posts in the forum. Here are some further thoughts from him concerning Europe’s turn toward austerity and the potentially profound impact of this on the rest of the world — even on the U.S., which has yet to heave Keynesian quackery overboard. RA)

A young friend asked me yesterday, “What on earth does negative growth mean?” and I had to laugh because it really is a ridiculous term dreamed up by political economists to put a positive spin on really bad news. I had actually never given the term any serious thought until then. “It means,” I said, “economic contraction and recession.” It really is no wonder the kids cannot figure out what is going on with all the nonsense terminology flapping about.

With France, Italy, Britain, Spain and of course Greece all now seemingly embracing austerity measures to bring their economies into line with EU terms specifying deficits be no larger than 3% of GDP, they are all about to experience “negative growth”.  A double dip recession is now hurtling our way and it will affect Canada and our housing markets in a very big way. Britain itself is targeting a debt reduction policy that it hopes will see that country’s massive debt fall to 40% or 50% of GDP by the year 2030. Prime Minister David Cameron has suggested that this will fundamentally change the lives of his countrymen for years to come. He is right.

Europe's move toward austerity has profound economic implications for the world

Some economists and politicians are already spinning this development as a positive change and suggesting that inflation targets and growth objectives can be met while the engine of the economy is put into idle (if not reverse). That is nonsense, of course. And it is a hazard to your financial well being to believe it. We cannot have it both ways. We are headed for a deep correction and should just start telling it like it is. There will not be inflation, particularly if quantitative easing, debt monetization and stimulus are being abandoned. It is Contraction with a capital “C” and nothing less. Negative growth is coming.

Choosing Recession…or Worse

In other words, it spells recession. It is one thing for a single member of the European Union to choose a policy of restraint in order to bring its fiscal house back in order, but quite another when all of the heavy hitters of the EU do so at the same time. We are witnessing a sea-change of events unfolding that to my way of thinking spell a certainty of a global recession if not worse. Yes, that dirty “D” word is on the tip of my tongue: Depression.

The stars are lining up and they all have the same intention. Deficit-slaying to achieve balance, maintain bond ratings, and by so doing cap the costs of interest payments on the debts in which sovereign states are drowning. It may be a good thing, but you know what they say about too much of a good thing: It kills. And in this case, it kills growth. I will not even quibble over the outcome.

This is an important cumulative set of changes, and it has not been commented on enough by the wider media. It is happening with lighting speed, too. All of the countries I mentioned are now turning their backs on stimulus and Keynesian nostrums as solutions to their economic woes. Instead they are embracing pension reform, reductions in public-service spending, tax increases, program cuts, increasing the age of retirement, cuts to social service payments, and looking at national assets that might be sold to raise cash.

Media Missing the Big Picture

There are many business writers out there, and individually they have commented in detail on the policies of one country or another; at other times discussing single announcements such as retail figures, employment, CPI and related indicators of our economic health. They are missing the big picture, though. I think it may be a case of not seeing the forest for the trees. The significance of what is occurring in Europe cannot be overstated because it spells deflation with a certainty when you consider the events in conjunction with credit being restricted around the globe.

I have said before that I do expect a significant stock market correction to take place during June and leading up to the G8 summit — possibly even occurring as an outcome of announcements that flow from those meetings. I may be wrong, but I do suggest to any who are reading this that you take special care of your investments at this time. Being in cash is prudent right now. Backstopping is essential if you insist on staying in the wider speculative markets. Caution should be the order of the day.

The Speed of Events

We are getting signals weekly out of Europe that change is in the wind – signals that would be perilous to ignore. Europe is about to enter a period that will be marked by a major economic contraction. It will affect every country on earth. None will be immune to the ominous political undertakings there.

As I said, it is a surprise to me, the speed with which these events are unfolding, and it appears to be occurring in the absence of a media spotlight. Perhaps we have become immune or complacent when it comes to bad news? Connecting the dots is all the more difficult with distractions like the spill in the Gulf of Mexico and the Israeli raid on ships headed for Gaza clouding our media horizon and consuming most of the airtime.

We need to stay focused, though. Major events are shaping up in the background that cannot be ignored.

And they are about to bite us from behind.

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  • F. Beard June 24, 2010, 11:31 pm

    @Steve,

    Wow! You make me wish I had gotten a law degree. However, my inalienable Creator is the Lord and though not lawless yet He is sovereign.

    His will be done.

    Thanks. God bless.

  • Steve June 24, 2010, 11:06 pm

    Thanks Rick !

    The answers are so simple.

    But, when 50% plus of the population is on the take, and the others are keep infighting by mobocracy tutored by The Prince –

  • JPM June 24, 2010, 8:41 pm

    Very interesting Rick, and you can see in http://www.kitco.com/ind/Daley/jun242010.html,
    that you are far from being alone in your worries.
    But the crisis was officially admitted two years ago in
    USA and woken up in Europe (Greece) last year.
    Europe’s response to it is tidying up its messy spots
    by means of bailing them out, but at the same time putting them in the austerity pillory, in order to avoid encouraging delinquency and euro oblivion. Certainly , this will slow down the recovery, especially in the messy spots, but it seems that the British have quickly decided to follow the example, in order to avoid the pound’s wreckage. So, will the USA follow suit?

    As to the problems in the Gulf of Mexico and Israel,
    they shouldn’t be dismissed as distractions, especially the former; go and ask people living there…

    Regards,

    JPM

  • F. Beard June 24, 2010, 6:48 pm

    Read the Banking Act of 1913, and read case Law – . . . federal reserve notes are good for money, unless specially objected to. . . 1925 case. No body seems to object to Bull Shit. The problem is systemic and exists in the image in the mirror ! Steve

    Well, FRNs are privileged under the law; they are legal tender (unless specifically objected to as you say?), deposits are backed by the FDIC, and I suspect the IRS would object to any serious alternative currency. Plus plausible alternatives such as gold, silver and common stock are subject to a capital gains tax whereas FRNs are not.

    • Steve June 24, 2010, 10:59 pm

      You are correct, Title 31 is public policy to engage in outlawry. Territorially, one has no constitutional Rights, (would you like the case law) Once again the supreme Court opined:

      The People by their quiet assent allow the lawlessness to continue.

      I have read all of the currency cases, and to a one they relate to the 14th amendment, the creator congress and territorial citizenship domiciled in the district of Columbia. Congress can do as they wish in the 10 square district, and the congress can do as it wishes under Article IV, sec. 3, cls. 2. When congress creates enfranchisee character domiciled in the district one is subject, read the 14th amendment, of the legislative powers of congress domiciled in the said district, and “resident’ is defined as doing business in a foreign land. (Congress is your CREATOR by legislative power, one assents to the 14th Amendment, and gives away Unalienable Rights, for ‘civil rights’ Roman Civil Law).

      The supreme court has ruled repeatedly that the 14th amendment is a voluntary political act of the legislative branch, and therefore the court, under the Separation of Powers Doctrine, cannot interfere in political matters of the legislative branch.

      All current LAW COMES from the Commerce Clause – corporate – corporate enfranchisee – business, or from the Reconstruction Acts of 1867.

      Get it – Title 31 – Public Policy – presumes YA ALL are corporate personage, (case is called the Erie Railroad Doctrine) prior to 1933 you were presumed to be the Sovereign over government, since 1933 YA ALL have been presumed to be corporate enfranchisees domiciled in the district, doing resident business over a several State, and the subject of a private political act allowed Congress Absolutely under Article I, sec. 8, cls. 17, in the district.

      Have you ever heard IN THE DISTRICT COURT FOR THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT OF OREGON versus the OLD WAY district Court for the united States, Oregon state ?

      . . . the People are in rebellion. . . Amos H.Short v. Francis Artimanager, 5 Opin 354, 525, s.Ct. Ore. cert. denied (1852)

      STILL STANDING CASE LAW !

      Federal Reserve Notes are Legal Tender, Once again you are correct – frn are legal tender for a u.s. citizen created by the g-d Creator the congress, within their territorial view under the Buck Act for the district of OREGON, and they are legal tender for whomever agrees to BULL SHIT

      All one needs is the masses in democracy overruling the Rights of Man, overruling the Constitution in assent to outlawry, all wanting BULL SHIT to be money – creating class envy wherein a jury of peers does not exist – because the jury picked by the I.R.S. / D.O.J. personally gains by taking the LIBERTY of the few – to fuel greed.

      By Damn if I give up my Rights and I am a subject of the congress as Creator, by Damn I’m making sure you are a slave if you don’t want to be.

      Works great. It is called The Prince. I choose to ‘USE” but I’m going to force you to PAY – To HELL with the LAW I like the private laws of rebellion in a congress outlawry. This is your American Jury – make em pay because I volunteer to pay – take their Rights because I give my Rights away for the promises of the government – they are here to take care of us.

      There is Law
      Then there are statutes
      Then there is rebellion which creates
      private law
      Now we have democracy
      which says that evil is now good in the sphere of rebellion in my time space and plane.

      You are correct sir; the I.R.S. is a legitimate INTERNAL – get that district of Columbia – corporate person, supra, resident subject of OR, who (I.R.S.) is absolutely empowered by private legislation of the congress’s rebellion to prosecute “use” of frn under the Banking Act of 1913.

      When the People volunteer to “use”, and take Bull Shit as money – there can be no hope –

      Article I, sec. 8, cls. 5 is LAW
      Article I, sec. 10, cls. 1, is LAW

      Title 31 is PUBLIC POLICY of rebellion and agreement to engage in outlawry with the congress as the G-d of the corporate enfranchisee created by the 14th Amendment, and legislated by the Commerce Clause because everything an enfranchisee does is gain – and by admission doing residency (business) in the district of OR, while domiciled in the district of Columbia as a subject (14th Amendment) establishes the TAX owed for USE. Internal – district of Columbia resident district of OREGON –

      YOU ARE CORRECT – it is called dialectic.

  • Steve June 24, 2010, 5:54 pm

    I wish to make a point. Money is bull shit in a field if you and I agree by contract that it is money – money is anything in exchange by agreement. Value is another thing – set by Article I, sec. 8, cls. 5 legislation. Silver Specie Coin is a ” value ” set to extinguish Debts – see; No State Shall. . .make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts, Article I, sec. 10, cls. 1. The value of a Dollar is 361 4/16th fine silver in a Coin struck by the Mint as Legal Tender for the several States. A CONTRACT extinguishes Debt with Coin when I agree my Hereford Bull is a value at 2500 Dollars – that is TRADE.

    Discharge is the use of a federal territorial scrip form of money in which “use” = “debt”= “trust”, and in which YOUR representative in congress borrows 1 federal reserve note, and promises that you will give the cartel 1.25 notes in return. Problem is that YOU DO NOT HAVE 1.25 notes because there is only 1 note in circulation.

    My dad was very smart – You are a Slave to whom ever you owe debt.

    Use of a federal reserve note in contract places a ” general and paramount ” lien upon all property discharged with the note. Simply stated, when one makes use of a federal reserve note a trust is created in which a slave is presumed under Roman Civil Law. Read the Banking Act of 1913, and read case Law – . . . federal reserve notes are good for money, unless specially objected to. . . 1925 case. No body seems to object to Bull Shit. The problem is systemic and exists in the image in the mirror !

    Always remember that the Federal Reserve will not call a federal reserve note a Dollar as contemplated by Constitution, and remember that a dollar can be many things in different Nations. Remember the distinction between a territory, territorial script, and silver Specie Coin.

    Remember the Thurgood Marshall said . . .that while the UNION survived the civil War, the Constitution did not.

    The military taught me about civil disorder, and I assure you that the context of the week of education never once focuses on money, but; on other Things far more valuable than money and who will have them.

  • F. Beard June 24, 2010, 5:41 pm

    So until we meet again peace be with you, F Beard! Ben

    Iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. Proverbs 27:17

    I look forward to your sharpening.

  • F. Beard June 24, 2010, 3:08 pm

    “If I loaned you a dollar at the time there was only 1,000 dollars, but you paid me back that dollar when there was 10,000 dollars… you didn’t pay me back in full. You paid me back only 10%. Where’s my ninety cents, man?! (and so we come to see the why of usury)” Ben

    You did not loan me a dollar, you created it as you lent it to me. You counterfeited money via government privilege; I’ll pay you back with “counterfeit” money; fair is fair.

    [snip]

    “First, if legal tender fiat extinguishes, then why is ongoing service of debt “what is most important” ?” Ben

    Well, if you insist, enough legal tender fiat can be created to pay that off too. The debt was either created from thin air thus stealing via inflation or was bought with existing money from the counterfeiters, in which case it is purchase of stolen goods. There is no legitimate debt.

    [snip]

    “As I said, legal tender by definition can extinguish debt. No gold or silver is necessary,only the rule of law.” FB

    “I would be all too eager to agree, except for one heck of an inconvenient dilemna (aside from the ones already presented)….

    How much non-gold and non-silver, or rule of law, or common stock, etc do you create? Ben

    I’ll leave that for the economists to calculate but sufficient to enable every underwater homeowner to pay down his mortgage to market price levels. But let’s err on the side of generosity since the Bible specifies a minimum two-fold repayment for theft. As for common stock, the issuance of that is a private matter to be determined by the owners (stock-holders).

    And on what basis do you create any money at all, and see to it that the amount of money in existence remains true to that anchor? Ben

    Let Caesar issue his own money good for government debts only (after a just reset, mind you) and let the private sector issue its own money good for private debts only.

    I’m not the least bit afraid to say that I couldn’t answer that question with a billion times a billion brains in my head. I’ve tried, and so has man over the centuries, but there is no way to answer that question. Ben

    My inspiration is the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, the greatest Book on economics ever written.

    Gold and silver, on the other hand, gives us a place to start as well as finish. If it looks like it affects the tides and does affect the tides… it’s the moon, not a scheming banker. Ben

    Gold and silver as money is barbaric and idolatry too. And both are too valuable and costly in terms of human effort and environment destruction to be wasted in bank vaults or as coins.

    Don’t speak of scheming bankers, gold as money is just another scheme of theirs. The rule of law and liberty would humiliate the scheming bankers as they deserve to be humiliated.

    • Benjamin June 24, 2010, 5:25 pm

      F Beard…. What ever am I going to do with you? lol

      I think we’re running into some major communication and definition problems, as well as confusion as to whom is saying what. And this can get long in sorting out. So once more, I don’t think I’ll have the time for you just yet.

      So until we meet again peace be with you, F Beard!

    • Steve June 24, 2010, 5:34 pm

      Everyone seems to confuse ” Extinguishment ” with ” discharge “. Extinguishment of debt does not exist, with the 9th Circuit saying that even if you use the silver Specie Money currently minted by Treasury under the Act of 1985, a 14th amendment subject does not possess the Right of Extinguishment, and is subject to taxation for discharge.

  • le scott June 24, 2010, 3:00 pm

    There is an evil, cunning way out of eventual US default: continue to print money, buy up the majority of the world’s gold and silver with it, then insist on the world moving to a gold and silver dollar-reserve-currency.
    This, in all probability, will never occur, as the sinister bureaucrats including Bernanke and his henchmen are vain enough to think the dollar and the military will always be omnipotent!

  • F. Beard June 24, 2010, 11:25 am

    “It would do none of the things listed.” Ben

    False.

    “But let’s say it did happen. The money is given directly to people to pay off their debts. This goes into banks, naturally. But government is still in debt, especially with it’s own citizens. ” Ben

    True, but debt service is what is important. A from-the-botton-up reflation with new legal tender should bring the economy back up in nominal and to some extent real terms since some wealth has been destroyed. If the legal tender distribution was large enough, of course government debt could be serviced.

    “Okay, then tax the banks so government can pay it’s debts. BUT…” Benjamin

    I said nothing about taxing banks.

    [snip]

    “This is unworkable. Government would tax Pete to pay Paul… tax Paul to pay Pete… Because the debt is never extinguished even though it is forgiven in just giving people usury-free money.” Benjamin

    Huh? Of course the debt is extinguished. Legal tender fiat by DEFINITION extinguishes debt.

    “And outright default is out of the question, as someone who didn’t deserve it would be screwed.” Benjamin

    Money-for-debt, fractional reserve lending, is a form of government backed counterfeiting which screws all money holders for the sakes of banks and borrowers. Default would be to some extent justified but I don’t advocate default; I advocate a bailout of both borrowers and savers. Everyone could be fixed as I pointed out. The problem is that debt is ratcheted up during the boom but not allowed to fall during the bust even though the money supply needed to repay it shrinks. That is usury.

    “But I say again: There is an answer. For anyone seeking to answer my question as to what the solution is, here’s a helpful hint… The answer is _not_ _simply_ remonitizing gold and silver. That’s a partial answer and at this stage a given answer. Gold and silve need to be remonitized.” Ben

    Sorry Ben, but gold and silver are a banker’s solution. It is wealth based on a delusion that is fostered for the sake of bankers. It is the banking class’s fall back looting scheme. A far better solution is common stock as money which would eliminate the need for conventional money as an intermediary. Of course that cuts bankers out of the loop. Too bad, they can get a real job.

    “But a better answer is to state from WHERE it would come, WHY it would and should come from there, and HOW it would put an end to inextinguishable debt.” Ben

    As I said, legal tender by definition can extinguish debt. No gold or silver is necessary,only the rule of law.
    Do I believe in legal tender laws? No, except in the case of government debts. However, a reset using legal tender that is good for ALL debts is just under the circumstances.

    • Benjamin June 24, 2010, 1:54 pm

      “If the legal tender distribution was large enough, of course government debt could be serviced.”

      If I loaned you a dollar at the time there was only 1,000 dollars, but you paid me back that dollar when there was 10,000 dollars… you didn’t pay me back in full. You paid me back only 10%. Where’s my ninety cents, man?! (and so we come to see the why of usury)

      That’s the other side, which was the point of my posted response, and which is why I included the loss to banks. Either the debt remains open or the money devalues. In either case, it can’t work because it can’t.

      “Huh? Of course the debt is extinguished. Legal tender fiat by DEFINITION extinguishes debt.”

      First, if legal tender fiat extinguishes, then why is ongoing service of debt “what is most important” ?

      Second, yes… All government could do is keep shifting the tax burden to prevent default. And they’ve been doing this. It’s just that they aren’t very good at keeping up and they do like to listen to various forms of pressure concerning taxation because it relieves them of the nauseating task of having to think about the nightmare they caused in going anchorless. At the same time, they veyr much welcome the siren song of central bank money. Bliss!

      And so they just keep borrowering. But even if they didn’t, they couldn’t possibly solve the problem. Before debt can be said to be serviceable, it needs to be payable in full. Shifting taxation is not paid in full. It’s Indian-giving repeated ad nauseum, ad infinitum.

      “As I said, legal tender by definition can extinguish debt. No gold or silver is necessary,only the rule of law.”

      I would be all too eager to agree, except for one heck of an inconvenient dilemna (aside from the ones already presented)….

      How much non-gold and non-silver, or rule of law, or common stock, etc do you create? And on what basis do you create any money at all, and see to it that the amount of money in existence remains true to that anchor?

      I’m not the least bit afraid to say that I couldn’t answer that question with a billion times a billion brains in my head. I’ve tried, and so has man over the centuries, but there is no way to answer that question.

      Gold and silver, on the other hand, gives us a place to start as well as finish. If it looks like it affects the tides and does affect the tides… it’s the moon, not a scheming banker.

    • Steve June 24, 2010, 5:28 pm

      How do you think I am going to react ? I have been debt free, and every debtor in possession has taken my Liberty to feed their own greed. Are you going to give me equal access to the 60 Billion that Bill Gates holds as a debtor in possession ? You see; even Bill Gates is Debtor in Possession after expending 60 b to hit next zero to issue, what – New Fiat ?

      There is a grave mistake being made here. I was trained in Civil Disorder by the military, well within plans from the middle 1980’s. The government plan is focused on ‘civil disorder’, not allowing YOU to exercise LIBERTY. The military was not training me to go to war in a foreign land. They were training me locally on how to control the population and bring it to a number that is self sustaining. Get it straight. A great deal of thought has gone into how many people can subsist on a given parcel of land in a given region based upon Native Populations. I was trained to blow bridges, blow roads at critical points, and to isolate population groups. Guess about the people who will be isolated and allowed to – “party of 6 – Donner party of 6”.

  • hamer June 24, 2010, 10:40 am

    A clear, well-written article that pieces together and states what overall direction Europe is taking.

    I look forward to his next offering spelling out some of the ramifications.

  • C.C. June 24, 2010, 8:56 am

    I have a hunch the political elite – including the Fed, know what time it is…

    A re-valulation of the dollar to a $5k/ounce or so metric against gold would go a long way. Overnight, that is. By ’emergency’ decree. For reasons of ‘national security’. Sure, a lot of ‘wealth’ would be wiped. Will not an equal or higher amount be wiped if we either ‘deflate’, or ‘hyper-inflate’?

    8X aggregate debt to GDP.

    Our ‘kids, grandkids’ and great-grandkids’ inheriting all this debt? Nonsense. And just about to a man, everyone knows it. This is here & now and it is going to be resolved one way or another with great stress and strife, likely before the current administration’s 1st term expires.

    I think Jim Rickards is onto something here –

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    “Sure, a lot of wealth would be wiped out”?? Do you mean the wealth of the rentiers and banksters who supposedly rule our lives and our economic destinies? RA

    • Steve June 24, 2010, 5:12 pm

      What wealth ? If I were technically debt free, allegedly owning all I possess I’m still only a debtor in possession. After the entire population sells everything, and the U.S. sells every National Forest I’m still a debtor in possession. My deed to property is Fee Simple Absolute – fee, fife, feod, feud, feudal tenant, peon, serf, slave – Blacks Law Dictionary Fourth Revised Edition 1968. In 1832 the people held Allodial Title to Land – Free Hold – Free Man. Today the best one can become is a debtor in possession. Answer who, what, when, where, why to find who wants YOU to be a slave, what was done to create fiscal slavery, when the bank act was done, where the rebellion started, and why – Well I gave you why – as People we are no longer free.

    • C.C. June 24, 2010, 6:50 pm

      Rick –

      I would hope so. Everyone will get their comeuppance however – banksters and rent-seekers both. Nature has a way of sorting them out.

      Question though – Macro level, for everyone:

      Look at all of the graphs posted of late – by myriad writers, comparing things like cost-of-living, Debt, debt-to-GDP, credit expansion/contraction, that 21-graph tome posted yesterday from Business Insider, etc., etc., over the period of the last ~30 years.

      Does anyone really believe that we are going trudge through this mess over an additional long period of years of stagnant growth (or no growth), without a major economic or geopolitical/economic event that drastically changes the landscape (perhaps literally) overnight? The ‘graphs’ certainly don’t point to a ‘boring’ outcome – they’re all ‘spiking’, or on the cusp of spiking.

      I’m not suggesting ‘2012’ Hollywood, but can you see/perceive a ‘wall’ approaching?

    • Max Power June 24, 2010, 7:14 pm

      I like that. Revalue gold to $5k per oz. Just think, if the Governments did that, and offered to buy it at that price, they could instantly inject trillions of dollars into the system without loaning a single penny more. But the fly in the ointment here is that the LBMA has sold so much paper gold that they would be on the hook for, and the amount appears to be exceedingly massive. Heck, just print more money….

  • PhotoRadarScam June 24, 2010, 6:55 am

    Talk is cheap. I still remain highly skeptical of which measures will actually be implemented and be successful. Every time the politico’s propose a cut in something, a group gets out and protests (both here and in Europe). I STILL don’t think European or US politicians have the balls to enact career-ending cuts.

    The progressive movement, at least in the US (and I believe so in Europe), has managed to get large groups of people dependent on the government teat. Now that this has been achieved, it’s uber-difficult if not impossible to undo without seriously pissing off the constituency.

    In other words, I’ll believe it when I see it. As the old saying goes, “wish in one hand and crap in the other, and see which one fills up first.”

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    See Benjamin’s post: Austerity is just political-speak for slipping into economic Depression. RA

  • JohnJay June 24, 2010, 5:29 am

    If George Soros is any indicator, it looks like the Fed’s last, best, hope is to poison the well for the Euro.
    If they can keep ZIRP going a while longer here, and get some Euro money seeking safe haven in the dollar, they may pull it off. If they can get a 30 year mortgage down to 4%, that may backstop all that bad Fannie,Freddie, FHA paper, and support real estate prices. They have to do something about it sooner or later. I gave up on a 1980’s style bond market collapse a long time ago.

    Don’t fight the Fed, for now anyway.

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    Fight the Fed? The Fed is lying brain-dead on the mat after having thrown its best punch at deflation and stimulated no more than a 40-cent increase in the price of a head of lettuce. RA

    • JohnJay June 24, 2010, 4:46 pm

      The Fed may be all that and more Rick.
      But they are still calling the shots.
      The audit-the-Fed bill has already had its teeth pulled.
      Congress has shown no interest in assuming control of the currency.
      ZIRP will be in effect for a long time unless we suffer a complete economic collapse which is worse than the Fed in charge.
      Violence in the streets is a slippery slope.

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      Calling which shots? Benny “Kid” Paret’s manager was probably “still calling the shots” after the 12th round at the Garden in 1962. RA

  • F. Beard June 24, 2010, 4:34 am

    Have I mentioned that a free distribution of new legal tender to every adult in the Euro zone would:

    1) enable underwater homeowners to pay down their mortgages to market price levels
    2) compensate savers for years of artificially suppressed interest rates
    3) fix the banks in nominal terms
    4) fix government tax revenues?

    Debtor forgiveness is Biblical (Deuteronomy 15, Leviticus 25) and I doubt they even had fractional reserve lending in those days. But if just debtors were bailed out then the savers would complain with justification. Hyperinflation risk? Then raise reserve requirements, preferably to 100%.

    Long term solution? Fundamental reform in money and banking.

    • Benjamin June 24, 2010, 9:52 am

      “Have I mentioned that a free distribution of new legal tender to every adult in the Euro zone would…”

      It would do none of the things listed. But let’s say it did happen. The money is given directly to people to pay off their debts. This goes into banks, naturally. But government is still in debt, especially with it’s own citizens. Okay, then tax the banks so government can pay it’s debts. BUT…

      Banks hold a substanital amount of government debt. Taxes are supposed to pay back bond holders. So taxing bond holders to pay someone else back is, needless to say, not paying them back. And what of what banks owe their depositors? Or bondholders would be taxed to “pay” themselves back, which is, again needless to say, a default on citizens and/or depositors.

      This is unworkable. Government would tax Pete to pay Paul… tax Paul to pay Pete… Because the debt is never extinguished even though it is forgiven in just giving people usury-free money. And outright default is out of the question, as someone who didn’t deserve it would be screwed.

      But I say again: There is an answer. For anyone seeking to answer my question as to what the solution is, here’s a helpful hint… The answer is _not_ _simply_ remonetizing gold and silver. That’s a partial answer and at this stage a given answer. Gold and silver need to be remonetized. But a better answer is to state from WHERE it would come, WHY it would and should come from there, and HOW it would put an end to inextinguishable debt.

  • Benjamin June 24, 2010, 4:18 am

    I’m going to disagree using a different angle than I usually would.

    High taxes: Levy them all you want, but that doesn’t mean they’ll be there to be collected. Set the rate at whatever you wish, and this will always be true. It will be especially true because…

    Interest: Governments collect taxes to pay back their creditors, or bondholders ie. Central banks are of course the largest holders of government debts, have in fact driven them up to the levels they are at, which is the root cause of the depression that is driving “austerity” (for all that it won’t work even if it goes through 100% and with 100% dedicated support from everyone from here to the next galaxy).

    Higher interest is song and dance because in all reality, it’s the success of taxation that matters. Set it wherever you want, but the money may not (and probably will not) be there.

    Government spending: Cut it to zero, but that doesn’t pay the existing debt.

    Austerity is NOT the word anyone should be using. It’s a softer word for “we’re screwed and can’t do anything about it”. And really, there isn’t. Property taxes in my area haven’t budged and even in some areas have gone up even as property values have gone down. Defaults in property taxes are a rampant problem here. And income taxes in times of high unemployment will net the same thing… less actually collected, not more. And forget about sales taxes. If property and income are falling, there’s no good reason to think consumer spending will do the trick. And capital gains?

    What are those, really? From my understanding, it’s money that has no further obligation attached to it. Money that can be idled, ie. No money today fits that definition, given the levels of debt we’re faced with.

    Levy taxes and raises interest and cut spending all you want. The problem will not go away.

    But there IS something that can be done for it. I’ll stop here though, and see if anyone can tell me what I already know.

    &&&&&&

    You’ve gotten everything right here, Benjamin — and yes, “austerity” is just a way of soft-peddling the precipitous fall in the standard of living that we are experiencing in this debt deflation-driven slide into Depression. Thanks for your insightful comments. RA

    • Benjamin June 24, 2010, 8:57 am

      Then there’s this kind of stuff ( Warning: It’s a long, boring waste of time because, while one might feel inclined to agree with the author, it misses one important point: From where comes all money and credit to pay for productive expansion?):

      http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/9072/

      The blind capitalists don’t have the asnwer. But if they did, it would be easy to see that theirs is no more a workable answer than austeriy. We’d have to go into even more debt in order drive productive expansion, which would kill the goose that was to lay the golden egg. Same for austerity. If anyone can explain to me why it should work, even if 100% supported without any complaint… I’m all ears!

      Until then, I’m of the mind that everyone is a would-be King Arthur, awaiting his turn to draw a sword from a stone that doesn’t contain a sword.

    • Benjamin June 24, 2010, 6:02 pm

      To Rick Ackerman,

      Well, it is a pleasant surprise to be so agreed with. But the thanks goes to you, Rick, for allowing me the space to say.

      And since no one has answered me yet (and to risk being totally wrong on this one)…

      &&&&&

      Benjamin: Your post deserves a wider audience, so I’m going to air it as commentary for Friday.

    • Max Power June 24, 2010, 7:03 pm

      “But there IS something that can be done for it. I’ll stop here though, and see if anyone can tell me what I already know.”

      Here is my “solution” to the government debt problem – for a significant portion of the debt that has been borrowed from the government itself (i.e., printed out of thin air), just cancel the debt outright. This takes it off the books and calms down the masses of clueless, since this is what they are scared of. That of course leaves all that new money in the system (without the the book keeping trail and convenient mechanism of pull it out of the system in the future as its repaid). Then borrow some more, and repeat the process until jobs start to repatriate en-mass.

    • Benjamin June 24, 2010, 7:32 pm

      @Max Power (“whose name you just wanna touch… but you musn’t touch!”– Homer Simpson. Sorry, couldn’t help myself!)

      Read everything Steve said. We’d still be slaves, subject to all this nonsense of taxation, “austerity”, and (worst of all) capitalist cheerleaders who don’t have the slightest clue.

      Best to reclaim the loot and consider all debt cancelled, then start again. And it would bring back jobs. Plenty of them. Do you realize that government can’t tax? Sounds crazy, but it’s true…

      We have a right to choose what we accept as money. You can exist on bartering if you want, and never even possess a dollar if you don’t want to. That’s OUR liberty (as I suspect F Beard was trying to point out). Government, though, can’t use anything BUT gold or silver as money. That’s because it is the only way to prevent them from over-stepping their bounds.

      So the justification for no taxation is this… How could they tax for gold/silver coin if not everyone would even use them nor even be required to? And for that matter, how can government know who to tax, since no one has to use gold and silver coin?

      Government cannot at the same time protect our liberty to decide money for ourselves AND require us to pay tax in gold or silver. Can’t be done. So the only answer is that those who DO have them can choose to lend them to government on some terms of their choosing.

      no taxes = more jobs. But you knew that.

      And naturally, since the Fed has the lion’s share, we have to see to it that it is taken back, as they never would lend gold to government, and certainly not on ethical terms if they did.

    • Rich June 24, 2010, 9:51 pm

      Benjamin, glad to see people here with a Biblical appreciation of the danger of excess debt, taxation and usury, which ultimately destroy what they created.

      How about the saving and prospering with the 28 basis point APTT, promoted by a doctor and practical economist no less, since we had a higher transaction tax from 1914 to 1965 and made it out this side of the Debt Deflation Default Depression?

      http://www.apttax.com/execsummary.php

      Regards*Rich

    • Benjamin June 25, 2010, 4:50 am

      Rich,

      The subject of taxation is always a very interesting subject. Would love to discuss it, but I feel that in my many and lengthy posts that I’ve detracted from what Mr. Fitzgerald originally wanted to share. I got carried away today, but under the circumstances maybe that was inevitable. None the less, my apologies to Cameroni for so much O/T discussion today.

      That said, and back to Rich…

      One problem with even APTT: Where is the cut-off? This is important because gold and silver are the only way to keep government in it’s bounds. If there is no cut-off on transactions (assuming this was meant to also work with gold/silver money) then it is possible for govt to accquire large amounts that would be beyond the control citizens. With that, they can do any number of things wreckless and illiberal (in the classical sense).

      But that leads to another question: What IS a good cut-off point? Again, this like asking a brand-spanking new civilization how much money it’s government should create. It is not knowable, and thus not controllable.

      Lending, or more specifically voluntary lending, gives us many frames of reference, including what government can and can’t do should voluntary lending fall to dangerously low levels (which can happen). It also allows for controll of supply to become and remain spread out over many. And since lending can be done without any debt, ‘flations of money supply, or default, with all coin loaned returned in full…

      The need for taxation truly does disappear, even in times of war and great natural disaster. I never did expect to find that possbility, as I accepted death and taxes as inevitable. But Benjamin Franklin might well have been wrong. So too might man have been wrong all these millennia. As I said, it’s a very interesting topic!

  • gary leibowitz June 24, 2010, 2:37 am

    I was thought of as an amusing side-show for many years when I would declare with certainty that we will be falling into the 3 D’s (Debt, Depression, Deflation).

    While most understood the exponential accumulation of debt they all expressed disdain that I didn’t understand that the Fed can inflate our way out of any debt problem.

    Well the scene has been set and tested these past 2 years and Bernanke is failing. Must give him credit for getting this far but with the world against him he has already lost the battle.

    I had thought with today’s housing news the market would start the big slide. I am curious if we stabilize over the next 2 days. I started placing those Puts in anticipation of a sharp steady fall. My fibonacci turn-date calls for Monday as the trend change. My sense of timing has always been off. The market seems to march to it’s own drummer. With all the news coming out I would be shocked if we don’t get a sharp selloff next week. Almost anticlimactic for me.

    • Rich June 24, 2010, 9:45 pm

      Hoshana Gary.
      After a lot of back in forth with an inside day since the opening range, she broke down with absolutely no whimper, increase in put buying or volatilities, suggesting this may finally be the real thing.
      Time of course brings its own retrospectoscope…
      Cheers

  • Rich June 24, 2010, 2:17 am

    cf Nick Guarino…