With Firestorm Nearing, Traders Stand Their Ground

Ahhh, it’s those old Greek worries again!  Yesterday they were blamed for undoing a nearly 150-point rally in the Dow, although the question of what had caused the rally to begin with seemed of less concern. We’ll proffer the usual, technical explanation: Yesterday’s ups and downs were caused entirely by algorithm-driven machines with nothing more on their tiny digital brains than a bunch of zeroes and ones.  And if they had a smattering of human help, the humans undoubtedly applied the same tried-and-true tactic that has carried the day for the hedgies time and again in recent months – i.e., letting the index futures fall on thin volume, exhausting sellers overnight; then inducing a short-covering panic ahead of the opening bell.

Would that Greece were driven by algorithms and polymath dervishes!  Granted, this wicked combination could send millions of Greeks into manic-depressive fits and potentially suicidal lows. But, oh, just think about those highs — just like the ones we thrill to nearly every week on Wall Street, where even the glowering menace of a Second Great Depression evidently cannot kill the insensate ardor of buyers.  So, if 300-point Dow rallies are still possible, why hasn’t the same kind of exuberance seized the proletarian mind in Athens?  The answer, of course, is that Greece’s mood is driven not by “technical factors,” but by the grim realities of a failing economy and an economic future utterly bereft of hope.  Greek businesses cannot get bank loans to tide things over while their customers try to scrounge enough cash to redeem their IOUs. This has by now developed into a vicious cycle that can only spiral outward until it has encompassed all economic activity. In the meantime, a Europe desperate to save the euro and a transnational political confederation that had been dreamt about by political elites for a hundred years, has imposed on Greece a regimen of austerity that can only hasten the nation’s psychological exhaustion and slide toward default.

Belly Up for Greece

Has this outcome been factored into “the markets”?  Yes and no.  While it would appear that expectations of Greece going belly up are nearly universal, we cannot predict whether the event will cause a tsunami that takes Italy and Spain (and France?) with it. For their part, traders seem to be taking the Zen attitude that we shouldn’t worry too much about those things that we cannot change. And although only a handful of bureaucrats in Belgium and a few ivory-tower eggheads would maintain that Greece is not about to submerge, we’ll simply have to wait and see whether Euroland and the global banking system can survive the shock.  There is no question that the markets have been extremely volatile, reflecting the nervousness of traders and speculators still in the game. But if these bold players were to reflect for more than a moment on what outcomes are likely, let alone possible, the Dow would be trading 5000 points lower in a trice.

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  • fallingman September 22, 2011, 5:52 am

    Really good writing Rick.

  • 'Ode on a Grecian' (Western Culture) BURN September 21, 2011, 8:16 pm

    While waiting for the certain Grecian execution, I saw this.
    It is a takeoff on John Keats’ poem, ‘Ode on a Grecian Urn’.
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    ‘Ode on a Grecian’ BURN
    —————————–
    (by anonymous)

    THOU soon to be ravish’ed nation of default,
    Thou cradle of western civilization, gone awry–
    Where priestesses once worshiped Mighty Zeus,
    Yet now beg to ‘borrow’ Mighty Euros… day anew.

    What fiat currency does not haunt about thy fall,
    (Across all countries, banks, made of paper all),
    Which will survive, your failed-pay… wherewithal?

    And what men are these, that created this… travesty?
    What mad pursuits? What struggles for the un-earned?
    What fake gloating, what ever-bloating, false ecstacy?

    —— o ——

    As heard melodies of self-(hard)-earned gold coins is sweeter,
    No matter how much fiat’s (snake) soft pipers ‘therwise tweeter;
    Because, to those sensual, filthy-rich ears, Power Always endears
    (Corrupting…) Resultingly, it never hears, the cries it most fears:

    Of fair youth seduced, by an ever easy fiat floating, which never fades…

    Thus, by this rising fiat song, wafting world’s young (thru ‘net’ waves),
    Makes glib buyers of them all… Hence, via begging, borrow, or steal,
    If it’s trendy, and/or cynically ‘real’, today’s youth will accept—any deal.

    And that’s the fiat price now fully fiat paid, of youthful (future’s) ever lost’s turn,
    From biggest bonfire of fake money, ever burned—now all ashes, in a Grecian urn.

    —— o ——-

    “For ever wilt thou love, and she be fair!” (20)

    (Cries today’s every young one, about every currency–
    For today’s true love is money, fairer than any maiden).

    That is, until—until 2011 Grecian debts were made a pyre,
    Bringing down Western Culture… Greatest of all human fires.

    And then… these futureless youth, will enact—their ‘entitled’ revenge.

  • Robert September 21, 2011, 6:49 pm

    Greece has already defaulted. The only thing missing is acceptance by those who still think perception (the act of interpreting what you see) is more “real” than what is actually being observed.

    Facts:

    1) The greeks will not pay more taxes. They don’t even pay the taxes that they are legally expected to pay right now. To the letter of the law, virtually every greek is a tax evading criminal.

    2) The greeks despise their own politicians. Why else would they feel so emboldened to participate in the wholesale illegality cited in number 1 above?

    3) Legislation (legality) only works with the consent of the governed. The greeks en masse do not recognize the European Union or the super-sovereignty of any foreign elite- therefore they will not submit.

    Now, opinion:

    1) The greeks have it right. The rest of the world has it wrong.

    2) Anyone who spends their time trying to convince you that their actions have your best interest at heart are actually telling you that they are about to steal your right to life. liberty, and the pursuit of happiness away from you.

    It occured to me yesterday after reading Mava’s several impressive posts that free market socialism and free market capitalism and free market communism and free market anarchy are all the same thing… provided that humans all recognize the uniform reality that free markets are uncorruptable. They are distortable, but not corruptable. All markets balance over time, and any swing in one direction can not be maintained forever.

    • Benjamin September 21, 2011, 8:17 pm

      “The Greeks have it right. The rest of the world has it wrong.”

      “Anyone who spends their time trying to convince you that their actions have your best interest at heart are actually telling you that they are about to steal your right to life. liberty, and the pursuit of happiness away from you.”

      Maybe I’m not reading you right, Robert, but I’m sorry… a terd cannot be polished. This is not a case of a free people heroically refusing to meet the demands (default) of a forceful tryanny. More like a battle of the imps vs the incubi. The Greece we see now is pretty much the Greece as it was before they joined the monetary union, back when they had the benefit of doing all their junk away from any radar.

    • Robert September 22, 2011, 5:48 am

      “This is not a case of a free people heroically refusing to meet the demands (default) of a forceful tryanny. ”

      Why is there so much corruption in Greece? because the system fosters corruption, so the actors are playing the part.

      “The Greece we see now is pretty much the Greece as it was before they joined the monetary union, back when they had the benefit of doing all their junk away from any radar.”

      True dat, Benjamin… but remember the Greeks did not join the Euro following a popular vote; it was the politicians who pushed for it, and they were only granted admittance after an earlier attempt failed.

      To be sure, I am not exalting the Greeks, but I am applauding the fact that they are showing more spirit than their American compatriots in the face of oppressive and coercive elitist practices.

    • Benjamin September 22, 2011, 6:48 pm

      Okay, Robert. You just made me do a double take and I was a bit worried you (of all people) might’ve been exalting the inexaltable 🙂

  • Bradley September 21, 2011, 4:50 pm

    @bobby–thanks for that. Started my day with a hearty laugh!

  • A. Rand Ran September 21, 2011, 4:09 pm

    Someone may have posted this here before but worth reading again. http://www.vanityfair.com/business/features/2010/10/greeks-bearing-bonds-201010

    • Benjamin September 21, 2011, 6:24 pm

      Maybe someone did post it before, but it’s the first time I ever read it. And, wow, what a story it is! Thanks for posting it.

  • Benjamin September 21, 2011, 2:11 pm

    So much for the idea that Greecian default has already been “factored in” in all markets. Everyone knew it would happen, but no one dared to figure in what it will actually mean. It’s like standing on thin, cracking ice and saying that we’ve already experienced hypothermia and drowning. People are nuts. What else can I say?

    Anyway, a week or two ago, in a similar topic, I made some remarks about France and their nuclear power scheme. Someone (fallingman?) asked me what was wrong with it. I didn’t get back to that inquerry in time because my original link to the story had gone dead. I had to fish up a new one…

    http://energy.probeinternational.org/nuclear-power/nuclear-economics/the-limits-nuclear-mccain-shouldn-t-try-follow-french-disaster

    I’d even say that using nuclear for dead-of-night demand is a waste because building two plants to do what one coal-fired plant can do… meet both base and peak demand in the most efficent way… runs afoul of the law of diminishing returns (or something like that).

    • fallingman September 22, 2011, 6:27 am

      Gosh, do you think we might do something like…I don’t know…charge up electric cars at night with that “surplus” baseload power that’ll be so cheap?

      I don’t mean to be argumentative and I appreciate the link and the spirit of dialogue, but that article literally made no sense to me.

      Nuclear has its share of problems. There’s no question, but being a baseload provider isn’t one of them. I may be wrong, but like it or not, I think we’re gonna need nuclear. And with the advent of the revolutionary Hyperion mini reactors for “spot” use and the new generation Pebble bed reactors for large scale installations, nuclear’s appeal could well change dramatically.

      If this article actually made sense to you, maybe you can do a better job of explaining it than they did.

    • Benjamin September 22, 2011, 6:42 pm

      fallingman,

      I didn’t explain anything because it was too far O/T to write out the long explanation that was already in the article. I only brought it up yesterday because France was loosely mentioned in the whole EU mess. Too, I didn’t want to insult your intelligence or waste your time in just rewritting what was already clearly said in the article. But since the topic is yesterdays and because you asked, I’ll deliver…

      Nuclear’s tough to work with because it’s not yet possible to scale the output up or down. So what you’re left with is the need to live/consume at or near peak output. Barring that, you subsidize it at a loss until you can no longer do so. So, the aim is to push consumption up.

      But that constantly high, round the clock, for decades on end consumption must, for the most part, generate a return (meet an actuall market demand, ie). Are humans so perfect as to accomplish that? Not really.

      This barrier wouldn’t be a problem if plant cost wasn’t so high. If there was a way to cheaply build, maintain, and decomission them (without cutting any critical corners), then wasted generated watts wouldn’t matter. The cost of generating wasted wattage could be absorbed by the consumed watts. There would be no need to strive for that aforementioned peak-of-perfection.

      But as of yet, there are no solutions to that problem. Improvements yes, but none of them thus far are solutions. Now, people can say this and that about the future, but until the future is here, it’s a very stupid idea to go investing mega-billions into something that cannot be economically utilized. The focus should instead be on R&D (non-government funded; I never said nuclear exploration was a bad idea).

      Anyway, you asked why not just do night time charging. Well, that will not work. This wasn’t touched upon in the article because, and despite all of France’s push for EVS, there just isn’t a massive, night-time charging demand to meet. And there won’t be. The reason why, is…

      Your avereage barrel of crude, when refined, will produce about 19 gallons of gasoline, which is the largest quantity of byproduct from the refining process. In other words, gasoline must be profitably burned in order to provide the other byproducts as cheaply as possible.

      Okay, so you build a big nuclear power grid. People start to charge their electric cars. But the demand turns out to be less than expected. And that is because the cost of gasoline falls with the falling demand, thus encouraging people to reverse-trend and hang on to their combustion engines. But no problem. Just make EVs and electric heating the law, right?

      I don’t like central planning. But even if I had to accept it without question, the very goal shoots itself not in the foot, but directly in the head. The reason it does is because EVs still heavily depend on the cost/availability of other crude oil byproducts. Whether it’s polymer-based materials (or should we cut down trees?) or the diessel-powered means to mine and transport stuff around. EVs need oil and to work with oil, we need to profitably burn gasoline.

      But gasoline if forced into sharp falling demand, what are you going to do with lots of cheap gasoline, bearing in mind that if gasoline cannot be profitably burned that oil refining is done at a loss? Yes, it can be left on the market or exported to it (whichever), but that doesn’t eliminate the fact that it would be cheap. The only way to raise the price is not refine so much oil, thus shorting the availability on the byproducts.

      So the byproducts have to absorb the cost. Therefore, the already high costs of EVs goes up. So, all that nuclear power is again reduced to filling a demand that will turn out to be less than expected. We’re back to the aforementioned barrier. Now what?

      Turn around, like France is feebly attempting now. But the bridge has been “seized by bandits”. Why is oil and natural gas producing Russia so much more powerful and influential these days? Why has France taken such a keen interest in what happens in Libya? And finally, why are they utterly dependent on the military of a nation that is broke?

      France is in an irreversible rut. They wasted countless billions in socializing, demilitarizing their presence in the world, building large supplies of enegery that they can’t find any demand for, and, finally, tooling their production to ways that they now must reverse. Their energy economy, especially under the EU monetary union and all it’s f’ed up ways, has pretty much entombed France.

      But the article I posted didn’t quite put it that way. What it did quite clearly point out, explicitly and implicitly, is that neither France nor all of Europe can possibly create and sustain the needed, constant at-peak (and profitable) consumption of energy that would bail France out. They shut down nuke plants, at times, because there’s no point in trying consume and export energy that can’t generate a return. And if they can’t do it, then how on earth are we supposed to (through the current state of the art in nuclear)?

    • fallingman September 25, 2011, 9:09 pm

      Clearly?

      Thanks for the effort, but I honestly couldn’t follow the logic. Maybe my fault, not yours, but clear it is not.

  • George September 21, 2011, 1:19 pm

    One wonders if there is a debt implosion if all debt will be wiped away. If a few thousand cannot pay their mortgages or credit card debt it is a problem for the individuals involved but if millions can’t, it becomes a national problem.

    If you owe $10,000 on a $100,000 home and can’t make payment, you have a problem. If you owe $90,000 on a $100,000 home and can’t make payment, the bank has a problem.

    • bobby September 21, 2011, 2:34 pm

      not to mention if you owe $100,000 on a $40,000 home.