Radio Spot Awaits a Persuasive Bull

Can you think of anyone other than CNBC’s talking heads who’s bullish on the economy, bullish on the banking system, and bullish on real estate?  Nor could we after brainstorming the question with radio host Al Korelin yesterday.  We had just taped a update on gold for the Korelin Economics Report when our host asked whether we knew any full-throated optimists who could hold their own in a radio interview. The weekend show was becoming too gloomy, Korelin said, because it’s so difficult these days to find guests who think the economy is really and truly on the upswing.  Korelin’s hugely popular radio show reaches 260 stations, and as you can imagine, his Rolodex is filled with many hundreds of names of especially opinionated people. But genuine, hard-core bulls willing to embrace the sunny side?  Searching the Rolodex, he had come up empty. And the only guy we could think to recommend was Mr. Happy-Talk himself, Larry Kudlow.  

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Surely there must be someone else? Unfortunately, in the newsletter world where we dwell professionally, we couldn’t think of a single, unmitigated  bull among the scores of gurus with whom we swap newsletters. In fact, although we’re pretty sure ourselves that the U.S. economy is slipping into a Second Great Depression, that kind of thinking places us only around the statistical middle of the pack among professional gloom-and-doomers. And compared to, say, a Nostradamian in the group who foresees two World Wars and an unimaginably powerful series of earthquakes that will turn Flagstaff, Arizona into a coastal town and split the Dome of the Rock, our own view of the world seems positively buoyant. 

Are We Too Pessimistic? 

So, no, we told Korelin, we can’t think of anyone besides Kudlow to take the other side. But having said this, we wondered aloud whether the future could really be so hopeless. Have we perhaps sold ourselves a bill of goods, ignoring upbeat signs that the banks are slowly returning to health?  Have we underestimated the resilience of the American consumer?  Is the housing market poised for the kind of strong resurgence that would cause consumers to step up their borrowing once again?  Have state and local governments gotten their respective houses in order, putting revenues and outlays in balance for a smooth recovery?  Nahhhhhhh!  Not a chance. 

Meanwhile, we can’t fathom why anyone would believe such things, nor  why the spinmeisters would be so brazen as to suggest that an economic environment characterized by falling incomes, growing structural unemployment, mushrooming federal debt, plummeting asset values and a collapse in bank lending somehow portends recovery.  In reality it’s 1931 again, except that the dollar is worthless and the work force has unlearned just about everything it ever knew about surviving hard times. Even those who have been socking away gold and silver are uncertain how much of a cushion they will actually need.  For our part, we are prepared for hard times, though not for rioting in the streets. It is a comfort to be living in a small, semi-rural area of Colorado rather than in, say, Los Angeles. But there’s still no way of knowing what level of preparedness will see us through troubles that we’d care not to imagine. 

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  • Steve December 17, 2009, 12:46 am

    In all seriousness to the radio host, he might call Brian Wesbury who I hear every Friday on Hugh Hewitt’s show. He just wrote a new book to plug too ‘Its Not as Bad as You Think” Saw him recently on Fox one morning too.

    As an aside, I often take strong issue each Friday with his points – so as to whether he could ‘hold his own’ I give no opinion. Hewitt just lets him talk. But he is a big boy and works for First Trust Advisors as chief economist.

  • Alain December 16, 2009, 9:40 pm

    Thanks Rick but no info ion this post that can be used to trade. Sure one day everything could collapse, but who cares what might happen 2-5 years down the road. Everybody can see that! The USEconomy may be in an uncomfortable place at the moment, but so are all other “WorldEconomy”! What we all need at this point is insights on the direction of the USD, as everything under the sun seems to be correlated to it at the moment. When you’re in the middle of a hurricane (government stimulus), who cares about the timing of the tides? The storm surge is all we care about!

    Frustrated Trader Alain

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  • Rich December 16, 2009, 8:44 pm

    Institutional Investor today reported 52.2% Bulls and a record low 16.7% Bears…

  • Chris T. December 16, 2009, 7:49 pm

    Ted Jarret writes:
    “Rick, you have so often, yourself, taken a contrarian’s view of the market, mightn’t we conclude from the mass economic bearishness, that we just might slowly recover?”

    This is an interesting comment, as it shows nicely the non-symmetry of these “if everybody says one thing, its good to be a contrarian” arguments.

    By that I mean, you can have the stock indices go up for years, and everybody is on the bullish side, yet most don’t use the lets be contrarian arguement.

    But just let the marked be down for a few months, and as soon as most are bearish, the “oh, they’re all bears now, lets be contrarian and bullish” arguemnt is made.

    In gold it s the opposite.

    Barely have the few that actually follow the metal gone all bullish after only a very short time, and let there be just one Businessweek Gold cover, and its: “oh no their all gold bulls, better head for the hills”.

    Stock \bulls are okay for 2 decaades, but a bear market is not allowed to last for more than a year or two, …(never mind 1966-1981).

    Don F:
    Have you read “August 1914”?
    It is very enlightening how Sozhenitsy describes the culture shock of the Russian troops”when they enter Allenstein, which to them looked like a major city, when it was just a small town…

  • Rich December 16, 2009, 6:14 pm

    And then we have the Central Bank exit strategy from market distorting loose money, variously described as 6 impossible things to do before breakfast by the IMF or JPM Chase.

    NB any Treasury over 5 years maturity is falling and T Bills had zero or negative yields recently, suggesting people are choosing cash for return OF their principle rather than risk return ON it, in contrast to monopoly media headlines…

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/34442912

  • Rich December 16, 2009, 6:03 pm

    Even Kudlow thinks Bernanke tilting at the wrong windmill,
    citing a 6.3% inflation rate in the PPI…

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/34444519

  • Rich December 16, 2009, 5:58 pm

    Doubt Obama’s obese economic cabinet would come on the show, particularly after Christina Romer contradicted Larry Summer’s pronouncement the Recession is over by saying No one believes it is, ho ho ho.
    None dare call it what it is, Deflationary Depression with polkadot prosperity for those closest to the government soup line.
    Now that Obama’s approval is below half, lower than Reagan’s at this point, Bernanke’s confirmation vote was pushed to next year, Carbon Cap and Healthcare are floundering and there are rumored replacements for Fed Chair and Treasury Secretary for not pulling a rabbit out of the hat with that promised 8% ceiling on unemployment. Would you believe John Williams Shadowstat figure of 22%? Who are we to believe, talking government heads on TV nightly news or our own eyes and pocketbooks?
    TARP is still a guaranteed money loser for taxpayers, Intel faces FTC indictment for antitrust, ADIA is backing out of C debt to equity conversion terms and wages are still falling.
    We may see some fancy deflationary political footwork backtracking.
    Incidentally, if we pull more than $3000 cash out of our bank account for a rainy day or bank holiday, be prepared for a proctological financial exam including address, birthdate, driver’s license, social security number, occupation and reason for withdrawal. The results go straight to the IRS Treasury that Geithner stiffed while at the IMF. You see, it isn’t your money once you put it into a bank. It’s theirs.
    Based on firsthand observation of food price inflation at the supermarket with any beef, coffee, corn or wheat product, be prepared to become a vegan and grow your own like Michelle and the kids. It’s healthier anyway…

  • Dave Colonel December 16, 2009, 5:21 pm

    Hello
    Born in 1938, I have been fortunate to live during what could be called the “best of times,” especially so if I just ignore all the massive murderous wars and conflicts of the last 100 years. Today, it seems to me that the “beautiful planet” is suffering under a load of private and public lies and liars in numbers never before equalled.
    Maybe it was always that way. I just did not see it so clearly as now.
    Anyway, if it really is a fact that the “truth will make you free,” then is it possible that we are facing a bright future soon?
    It seems more logical to believe that a world now living the lie will somehow have to pay the piper, and make an attempt to at least seek a little truth before we can expect somewhat better future prospects.

  • Other Paul December 16, 2009, 4:37 pm

    Take comfort in the prospect of having something of value to pay for private security when the police aren’t accepting government IOUs anymore.

  • Ryan December 16, 2009, 4:35 pm

    I agree, not too pessimistic. When things start to turn, there will be real evidence as such. As of now, there are no Help Wanted signs in any windows, the real estate prices in my neighborhood keep dropping, the homes aren’t selling, and businesses that have been open for years are closing. I think I’ll notice when some of these things start to change.

  • DonF December 16, 2009, 4:32 pm

    In my youth my favorite books were Trotsky’s History of the Russian Revolution in three volumes, Tale of Two Cities, any Dickens, Metamorphosis, The Trial, any Kafka, Les Miserable, The Prince. And then Gulag Archipelago and other Solzhenitzen came along. Wow! Makes Hemingway seem terrifically upbeat!

    I absolutely reveled in my depression. Great! Now I’m very well prepared, at least psychologically, for the second coming of the Great Depression.

    “Literature that is not the breath of contemporary society, that dares not transmit the pains and fears of that society, that does not warn in time against threatening moral and social dangers — such literature does not deserve the name of literature; it is only a façade. Such literature loses the confidence of its own people, and its published works are used as wastepaper instead of being read.” Solzhenitzen

    DonF

  • Ted Jarrett December 16, 2009, 3:26 pm

    Rick, you have so often, yourself, taken a contrarian’s view of the market, mightn’t we conclude from the mass economic bearishness, that we just might slowly recover?

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    Sort of like recovering slowly from pancreatic cancer, no? RA

  • Keith December 16, 2009, 9:47 am

    The only possible light at the end of the tunnel would be a black swan…. say, whatever your imagination can think of. The big question is, since the derivatives market has kept the musical chairs going for much longer then economic law would allow under an honest system, can it actually keep going even longer then anyone could imagine? Is it possible to postpone the meltdown for another decade or so? I thought the crash was going to happen in the early 90’s and boy was I wrong!