Latest Bull Run Has Yet to Overtake Cleveland Indians


The Dow Industrials rose on Thursday for an eighth straight day — a rare feat, although not nearly as rare as the Cleveland Indians’ 22 straight victories this past season. In fact, the Dow has had nearly a dozen streaks lasting eight days.  What is the significance of this latest one? Mainly, that nearly everyone with money in the stock market made a little more of it the easy way — much as they’ve been doing for eight-and-a-half years. In a bull market, it would seem, we are all rentiers with a steady stream of passive income derived from our respective chunks of the rock.

There are quite a few more of us with skin in the game than you may have imagined. We’ve all heard that “the public” has yet to go all in. In fact, we are in stocks up to our collective eyeballs, according to Peter Eliades, editor and publisher of Stockmarket Cycles.  In the latest edition of his newsletter, Peter includes a chart that shows stocks as a percentage of household financial assets. Other than during the years of the dot-com boom, readings are as high as they have been at any time during the last 65 years.

‘Most Overvalued Market in History’

In the same newsletter, he serves up an interesting quote from a colleague, John Hussman: “What investors presently take as a comfortable environment of pleasant market returns and mild volatility is actually, quietly, the single most overvalued point in the history of the U.S. stock market.”

Explains Peter: “Don’t make the mistake of thinking that Hussman’s parameters for market valuations are based on simple P/E ratios or other orthodox valuation parameters. He has made a strong case that his valuation methodology is capable of assessing the markets potential over a following 10 to 12 year period. He uses a ratio of nonfinancial market capitalization to corporate gross value-added which includes estimated foreign revenues and which he describes as essentially measuring corporate revenues without double counting intermediate inputs. Sounds a little complicated, does it? Indeed, it may be, but that model is now calling for a 10 to 12 year annualized return on the S&P around the zero level. Compare that to a historic return of close to 10%, including dividends, and you should be able to glean what a miserable decade or more his valuation model foresees.”

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Farmer October 7, 2017, 3:02 pm

Not sure what you see in copper, Rick. It is set up for a very significant decline after having fallen almost 30 cents in September. By my reckoning that was merely the first leg down and the next is now preparing for a decline all the way back to support at 2.10 (rough estimate). The chart is not bullish at all. And why would it be other than on the fundamentals of billions of dollars of hurricane damaged homes. Although that argument is pretty convincing and implies a bullish outcome for copper I think the technnicals paint a different picture. You see copper turned up just as the dollar turned down in November/ December of 2016. And now, with the advent of a resumption in the long-dollar bull trade we should anticipate that coppers fall could be considerable as it moves inverse to dollars. We might even be able to use coppers coming fall to judge just how high the dollar will move although I won’t attempt that today. Anyway, this is a good bet for a short play in my opinion as price is now backtesting the recent decline (daily chart) and finding prior support has turned to resistance.

Monthly copper — This is not a bullish look for the copper bulls in the room and suggests to me that a recession is inevitable.

Farmer October 7, 2017, 1:53 pm

Going short SQQQ Monday. Call me nuts but it looks good to go and damn the torpedoes.

none October 6, 2017, 11:55 am

Peter Eliades does excellent work, I recall the very 1st day he was on channel 22 in L.A. which was the 1st financial network.

Wish him well, he call the bull start of the 1982 (august) low almost to the day, as well as the 2nd leg higher in October 1982 when all were shorting the new S&P indexes.

Have a great weekend..Rick.

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